Adkins still has room for more signings

Saints retain plenty of room for manoeuvre in the transfer market this summer, despite having to name a 25-man squad for the coming season.

Manager Nigel Adkins has already made four captures ahead of the Premier League campaign, with Jay Rodriguez, Steven Davis, Nathaniel Clyne and Paulo Gazzaniga all arriving at St Mary’s.

Under Premier League rules, the Saints boss must name a 25-man squad from which he can pick for the coming season.

That task is made easier, though, as players classified as being under-21 do not count towards the list.

New keeper Gazzaniga, 20, obviously falls into that category, and so does right-back Clyne, despite already being 21.

A player is deemed to be ‘under-21’ if they were 20-years-old or younger on January 1 in the year in which the relevant season commences.

In other words, anyone who was born on or after January 1, 1991, will be considered to be an ‘under-21’ player for the new campaign. Clyne was born in April 1991.

With that in mind, Saints currently have 24 senior players on their books.

But three of those – Lee Barnard , Ryan Dickson and Jonathan Forte – have not travelled on the pre-season tour, making it unlikely that they will make the final cut.

That would take the number down to 21, leaving room for four more signings before having to even consider leaving out anyone else.

Saints must also make sure that at least eight of the players on their squad list qualify as ‘home-grown’.

The definition of that is a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the FA, or the FA of Wales, for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday – whether that period is continuous or not.

Saints have no concerns in that department.

The club will only be allowed to make changes to their squad list during the transfer windows.

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9:08am Mon 23 Jul 12

mbetts says...

The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality
The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality mbetts
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9:18am Mon 23 Jul 12

saintsdan says...

Id be very happy with Danns there was a rumor earlier in the summer about him but it died out I hope it happens
Id be very happy with Danns there was a rumor earlier in the summer about him but it died out I hope it happens saintsdan
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9:19am Mon 23 Jul 12

drummernath says...

mbetts wrote:
The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality
If we could get Danns and Lens, I think that would be a pretty decent transfer window for the step up.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality[/p][/quote]If we could get Danns and Lens, I think that would be a pretty decent transfer window for the step up. drummernath
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9:21am Mon 23 Jul 12

hamblesaint says...

Maybe not bad but has a history of relegation as he was part of the birmingham team and the blackburn team who were relegated.
Maybe not bad but has a history of relegation as he was part of the birmingham team and the blackburn team who were relegated. hamblesaint
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9:27am Mon 23 Jul 12

GX Saint says...

Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo.
Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo. GX Saint
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9:31am Mon 23 Jul 12

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...

I would rule out Danns. Blackburn where asking nearer 7 million. Our chairman will not play over the odds for a average player, who has been relegated two season in a row. If we did go for Danns his fee would be less than half Blackburn are wanting. The latest news was Danns going on loan to Ajax for the season. Saints will bring in aleast two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon.
I would rule out Danns. Blackburn where asking nearer 7 million. Our chairman will not play over the odds for a average player, who has been relegated two season in a row. If we did go for Danns his fee would be less than half Blackburn are wanting. The latest news was Danns going on loan to Ajax for the season. Saints will bring in aleast two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon. Ashley Charles Pragnell
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9:39am Mon 23 Jul 12

yellowcard says...

blackburn where not asking 7million as he has a 6million buyout clause in his contract. ask blackburn fans what they think of him if it was up to them they would rip saints hand off for 2 million.
blackburn where not asking 7million as he has a 6million buyout clause in his contract. ask blackburn fans what they think of him if it was up to them they would rip saints hand off for 2 million. yellowcard
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9:51am Mon 23 Jul 12

Bwana23 says...

GX Saint wrote:
Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo.
Totally agree, now I understand.
[quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, now I understand. Bwana23
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9:56am Mon 23 Jul 12

milton road says...

Today's Mirror and Mail both say Dann's looks set for saints at 3.5m. Adkins seems confident of getting his man.
Sun Says 5m deal for Jens rejected but Saints will be back
Butner deal is dead QPR and Fulham now emerge as favorites.
See Transfer gossip on BBC
Today's Mirror and Mail both say Dann's looks set for saints at 3.5m. Adkins seems confident of getting his man. Sun Says 5m deal for Jens rejected but Saints will be back Butner deal is dead QPR and Fulham now emerge as favorites. See Transfer gossip on BBC milton road
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9:58am Mon 23 Jul 12

SaintMax says...

Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..
Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born.. SaintMax
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10:02am Mon 23 Jul 12

WAPA PIE GO says...

Dann not Danns ffs
Dann not Danns ffs WAPA PIE GO
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10:04am Mon 23 Jul 12

franiow says...

SaintMax wrote:
Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..
He is actually 21 but was under 21 on the cut off date of January. This is similar for U21 international sides.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..[/p][/quote]He is actually 21 but was under 21 on the cut off date of January. This is similar for U21 international sides. franiow
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10:05am Mon 23 Jul 12

RisingSon says...

SaintMax wrote:
Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..
Yes.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..[/p][/quote]Yes. RisingSon
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10:13am Mon 23 Jul 12

Paul Lucas says...

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
I would rule out Danns. Blackburn where asking nearer 7 million. Our chairman will not play over the odds for a average player, who has been relegated two season in a row. If we did go for Danns his fee would be less than half Blackburn are wanting. The latest news was Danns going on loan to Ajax for the season. Saints will bring in aleast two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon.
""Saints will bring in at least two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon""

ITK or LIH ??
[quote][p][bold]Ashley Charles Pragnell[/bold] wrote: I would rule out Danns. Blackburn where asking nearer 7 million. Our chairman will not play over the odds for a average player, who has been relegated two season in a row. If we did go for Danns his fee would be less than half Blackburn are wanting. The latest news was Danns going on loan to Ajax for the season. Saints will bring in aleast two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon.[/p][/quote]""Saints will bring in at least two new players by the end of the week. The players will be introduced to the fans on Saturday afternoon"" ITK or LIH ?? Paul Lucas
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10:26am Mon 23 Jul 12

St.Yorkie says...

Not sure about any transfer of a central defender in teams relegated 2-seasons running - but was it the team?
Not sure about Blackburn last season - did they have problems scoring goals?
He might be big and strong, with experience - so with a bit more maturity might be the job.
We will always be done for pace in the middle with Jos - but we have nippy wing backs to cover!
Like the idea of players being introduced before the Ajax game - LIVE ON CHANNEL 5 - next Saturday.
Shame about Buttner deal - but what's all this about Lens & Butland?
Not sure about any transfer of a central defender in teams relegated 2-seasons running - but was it the team? Not sure about Blackburn last season - did they have problems scoring goals? He might be big and strong, with experience - so with a bit more maturity might be the job. We will always be done for pace in the middle with Jos - but we have nippy wing backs to cover! Like the idea of players being introduced before the Ajax game - LIVE ON CHANNEL 5 - next Saturday. Shame about Buttner deal - but what's all this about Lens & Butland? St.Yorkie
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10:29am Mon 23 Jul 12

SaintMax says...

franiow wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..
He is actually 21 but was under 21 on the cut off date of January. This is similar for U21 international sides.
I was being sarcastic.

'..and so does right-back Clyne, despite already being 21.

A player is deemed to be ‘under-21’ if they were 20-years-old or younger on January 1 in the year in which the relevant season commences.

- This is enough information.. but he goes on..

...'In other words, anyone who was born on or after January 1, 1991, will be considered to be an ‘under-21’ player for the new campaign. Clyne was born in April 1991...'

The only info missing is his weight at birth, though this would have been useful
[quote][p][bold]franiow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..[/p][/quote]He is actually 21 but was under 21 on the cut off date of January. This is similar for U21 international sides.[/p][/quote]I was being sarcastic. '..and so does right-back Clyne, despite already being 21. A player is deemed to be ‘under-21’ if they were 20-years-old or younger on January 1 in the year in which the relevant season commences. - This is enough information.. but he goes on.. ...'In other words, anyone who was born on or after January 1, 1991, will be considered to be an ‘under-21’ player for the new campaign. Clyne was born in April 1991...' The only info missing is his weight at birth, though this would have been useful SaintMax
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10:44am Mon 23 Jul 12

stormus troupias the 1st says...

Bwana23 wrote:
GX Saint wrote:
Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo.
Totally agree, now I understand.
also agree,esp.the under 21 rules
[quote][p][bold]Bwana23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GX Saint[/bold] wrote: Really good, succinct definition of what the 25 man squad needs to comprise. Credit where credit's due Echo.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, now I understand.[/p][/quote]also agree,esp.the under 21 rules stormus troupias the 1st
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10:48am Mon 23 Jul 12

milton road says...

According to the Sun Saints had a 5m offer for Lens turned down but are expected to come back with a better offer. apparently Adkins is really keen on this guy. His club paid that for him and believe he has improved and is worth more.
Butland I know nothing of, thought that deal was finished and he was more likely to go to Spurs if anyone.
According to the Sun Saints had a 5m offer for Lens turned down but are expected to come back with a better offer. apparently Adkins is really keen on this guy. His club paid that for him and believe he has improved and is worth more. Butland I know nothing of, thought that deal was finished and he was more likely to go to Spurs if anyone. milton road
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11:19am Mon 23 Jul 12

SaintPC says...

For me I think the priority now has to be a centre half. Across the squad we have pretty much everything else covered, a tricky/fast winger could be argued for as well.

Looking at the back line, I worry that we might get exposed without a strong/quick experienced premie league centre half.

Fingers crossed.....
For me I think the priority now has to be a centre half. Across the squad we have pretty much everything else covered, a tricky/fast winger could be argued for as well. Looking at the back line, I worry that we might get exposed without a strong/quick experienced premie league centre half. Fingers crossed..... SaintPC
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11:33am Mon 23 Jul 12

lewie_7 says...

Whether or not the transfers go through the promising thing is we r being linked with the right type of player. Would love to see the likes of Buttner, Dann, Butland and Lens at the club but prior to us being linked with them I'd never even heard of Buttner or Lens... I'm sure theres a few more twists n turns but well b ready come the big k.o. COYR!
Whether or not the transfers go through the promising thing is we r being linked with the right type of player. Would love to see the likes of Buttner, Dann, Butland and Lens at the club but prior to us being linked with them I'd never even heard of Buttner or Lens... I'm sure theres a few more twists n turns but well b ready come the big k.o. COYR! lewie_7
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11:52am Mon 23 Jul 12

StParks says...

mbetts wrote:
The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality
He is just quoting from SSN this morning who were simply reading what was stated in the Daily Mirror. I think we can do a little bit better than Danns as I do not rate him any better than JF and JH. I would be a little bit disappointed if you did not buy better than we already have.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: The fat man on Talksport said we were in talks with Danns at Blackburn, not too bad, Premiership quality[/p][/quote]He is just quoting from SSN this morning who were simply reading what was stated in the Daily Mirror. I think we can do a little bit better than Danns as I do not rate him any better than JF and JH. I would be a little bit disappointed if you did not buy better than we already have. StParks
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11:56am Mon 23 Jul 12

StParks says...

SaintMax wrote:
Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..
He is under 21. born on or after January 1, 1991, will be considered to be an ‘under-21’ player for the new campaign. Clyne was born in April 1991.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Can we just clarify then that Clyne is over 21 or under 21, or was he born before or after he should have been born..[/p][/quote]He is under 21. born on or after January 1, 1991, will be considered to be an ‘under-21’ player for the new campaign. Clyne was born in April 1991. StParks
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12:09pm Mon 23 Jul 12

mbetts says...

WAPA PIE GO wrote:
Dann not Danns ffs
:-D Danns!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]WAPA PIE GO[/bold] wrote: Dann not Danns ffs[/p][/quote]:-D Danns!!!!! mbetts
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12:20pm Mon 23 Jul 12

SaintMax says...

So is Clyne over 21?
So is Clyne over 21? SaintMax
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12:56pm Mon 23 Jul 12

RisingSon says...

SaintMax wrote:
So is Clyne over 21?
It depends.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: So is Clyne over 21?[/p][/quote]It depends. RisingSon
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1:03pm Mon 23 Jul 12

SaintMax says...

RisingSon wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
So is Clyne over 21?
It depends.
Can we source a birth certififcate, we need to clear this up before the season starts. Anyone know his mum, she was probably there on the day.
[quote][p][bold]RisingSon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: So is Clyne over 21?[/p][/quote]It depends.[/p][/quote]Can we source a birth certififcate, we need to clear this up before the season starts. Anyone know his mum, she was probably there on the day. SaintMax
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1:36pm Mon 23 Jul 12

batesieboy says...

Find out if he's got the key to the door...simples.
Find out if he's got the key to the door...simples. batesieboy
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7:26pm Mon 23 Jul 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Hope ive still got two seats for me fat arse!
Hope ive still got two seats for me fat arse! Fatty x Ford Worker
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10:06pm Mon 23 Jul 12

RedArmy1 says...

Good to hear about all the signings and bidding for further players to add to the Squad.

QUALITY not Quantity is now the way ahead.

RED ARMY.
WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR.
Good to hear about all the signings and bidding for further players to add to the Squad. QUALITY not Quantity is now the way ahead. RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR. RedArmy1
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10:20pm Wed 25 Jul 12

saintdave1976 says...

Come on NA & NC there's still room for a few more!!!!
Come on NA & NC there's still room for a few more!!!! saintdave1976
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