Matthew Le Tissier lashes out at Saints executive chairman Nicola Cortese

Daily Echo: Matt Le Tissier celebrates at Old Trafford during his Saints playing days. Matt Le Tissier celebrates at Old Trafford during his Saints playing days.

Matthew Le Tissier has hit out at Saints chairman Nicola Cortese but has promised their ongoing feud will not detract from his support of the team.

There has long been tension between the St Mary’s chairman and the man who supporters last year voted as the club’s greatest ever player.

Cortese played an integral role in the now-deceased Markus Liebherr's takeover of the debt-ridden south coast club in 2009 – a time in which Le Tissier was part of a rival bid by the Pinnacle Group.

The 44-year-old did not pinpoint that as the reason for the pair's strained relationship but made his feelings on Cortese abundantly clear.

“I suppose the only real story will probably come out when he leaves the football club,” he claimed to Press Association Sport.

“He is not a very nice human being. It's as simple as that.

“When it's not quite going so well and the spotlight starts falling on other areas of the football pitch, then that's when he'll come under a little bit of pressure.”

Le Tissier was speaking at the Tullow Oil Golf Day, which is aimed at raising more than £150,000 for CLIC Sargent – the UK's leading cancer charity for children and young people.

No-one at Saints was available for comment when contacted by Press Association Sport.

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8:06am Thu 18 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

This should be an interesting comment bit. For the record i'm not on either side with regards to the argument Tiss is a legend but you cannot fault the job Nicola has done thus far with the club.
This should be an interesting comment bit. For the record i'm not on either side with regards to the argument Tiss is a legend but you cannot fault the job Nicola has done thus far with the club. SO50 Saint

8:07am Thu 18 Oct 12

romsey saint says...

mmm sounds like our grapes to me
mmm sounds like our grapes to me romsey saint

8:07am Thu 18 Oct 12

romsey saint says...

romsey saint wrote:
mmm sounds like our grapes to me
make that sour grapes
[quote][p][bold]romsey saint[/bold] wrote: mmm sounds like our grapes to me[/p][/quote]make that sour grapes romsey saint

8:23am Thu 18 Oct 12

SaintAsh1964 says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
This should be an interesting comment bit. For the record i'm not on either side with regards to the argument Tiss is a legend but you cannot fault the job Nicola has done thus far with the club.
Totally agree, ML & NC saved the club from the Wessex League and MLT saved the club from relegation, he also fronted a consortium, who if they had taken over would have been a disaster IMHO, so both men have had a massive impact on the clubs History and future, shame that they can't get around a table and sort their differences out, no doubt that Jeff Stelling on Saturday afternoon will be backing Matt, and slagging Nicola off which will reflect badly on the club.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: This should be an interesting comment bit. For the record i'm not on either side with regards to the argument Tiss is a legend but you cannot fault the job Nicola has done thus far with the club.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, ML & NC saved the club from the Wessex League and MLT saved the club from relegation, he also fronted a consortium, who if they had taken over would have been a disaster IMHO, so both men have had a massive impact on the clubs History and future, shame that they can't get around a table and sort their differences out, no doubt that Jeff Stelling on Saturday afternoon will be backing Matt, and slagging Nicola off which will reflect badly on the club. SaintAsh1964

8:26am Thu 18 Oct 12

midlandsaint says...

Le Tiss is a Saints legend. A great player, a genius on the pitch. Without him our descent to the lower leagues would have occurred much much sooner. However, he has his own personal flaws.

But....

Le Tiss is part of our history. Cortese is our now and the key to our near future. While it would be 'nice' if he were a very nice human being I am more interested in him being a very effective Chairman who will continue to take our club forward. If being a ruthless hard-as-nails mafia **** helps him to do that then I'm all for it.
Le Tiss is a Saints legend. A great player, a genius on the pitch. Without him our descent to the lower leagues would have occurred much much sooner. However, he has his own personal flaws. But.... Le Tiss is part of our history. Cortese is our now and the key to our near future. While it would be 'nice' if he were a very nice human being I am more interested in him being a very effective Chairman who will continue to take our club forward. If being a ruthless hard-as-nails mafia **** helps him to do that then I'm all for it. midlandsaint

8:36am Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Like those on here, he (MLT) is entitled to his opinion and it is not new news, he says he will still support the Club, the best way to do that is keep it to himself until NC has decided to quit, then he can have a field day in the Sun. It would be very unusual if NC made any attempt to defend himself at the moment, action speaks louder than words, I also can't see anyone else standing up for him, if, he is as bad as they say. It is just a shame that it is happening at all. This is going to be a critical period in the Clubs history, you can decide what you want, but the best way to go in my opinion, is to keep backing NC and NA for a little while longer. Major changes now would be extremely disruptive as we have found in the past, but if by the end of the year it is still looking bleak, there may well have to be a changes in strategy, but how that will come about is not in our hands.
Like those on here, he (MLT) is entitled to his opinion and it is not new news, he says he will still support the Club, the best way to do that is keep it to himself until NC has decided to quit, then he can have a field day in the Sun. It would be very unusual if NC made any attempt to defend himself at the moment, action speaks louder than words, I also can't see anyone else standing up for him, if, he is as bad as they say. It is just a shame that it is happening at all. This is going to be a critical period in the Clubs history, you can decide what you want, but the best way to go in my opinion, is to keep backing NC and NA for a little while longer. Major changes now would be extremely disruptive as we have found in the past, but if by the end of the year it is still looking bleak, there may well have to be a changes in strategy, but how that will come about is not in our hands. OSPREYSAINT

8:37am Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done. Sainty saint saint

8:46am Thu 18 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

A lot of employees, past and present, have said similar things on this this board.
No smoke without fire, but all successful businessmen have to have a ruthless streak and if this gives the club some sort of success then all will be good.
MLT is entitled to his opinion and to be fair he is probably spot on.
A lot of employees, past and present, have said similar things on this this board. No smoke without fire, but all successful businessmen have to have a ruthless streak and if this gives the club some sort of success then all will be good. MLT is entitled to his opinion and to be fair he is probably spot on. costa gaz

8:48am Thu 18 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese. SaintsBTGOG

8:55am Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
why should he "keep his mouth shut" ? he is perfectly entitled to express opinions and lets face it, the ammunition for those opinions is still to be found in large amounts. Those that know MLT know that football aside, he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet in football. I am yet to meet anyone who has said anything even close to that about NC..... With regards the future of the football club and it being in the right hands, well my views differ to those of Matt's but of course there is the possibility he knows something I don't.... Also, MLT is a legend but I recall a conversation I had with Branfoot many many years ago about Matt and Dowie and it was clear out of the two of those players, at the time only one was behaving as a "team" player....
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]why should he "keep his mouth shut" ? he is perfectly entitled to express opinions and lets face it, the ammunition for those opinions is still to be found in large amounts. Those that know MLT know that football aside, he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet in football. I am yet to meet anyone who has said anything even close to that about NC..... With regards the future of the football club and it being in the right hands, well my views differ to those of Matt's but of course there is the possibility he knows something I don't.... Also, MLT is a legend but I recall a conversation I had with Branfoot many many years ago about Matt and Dowie and it was clear out of the two of those players, at the time only one was behaving as a "team" player.... MGRA

9:04am Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Did Matty have a bad round of golf that day?
Sorry to see it pan out like this, but definitely believe in our legends freedom of speech to say what he thinks.
I don’t think Mr Cortese will lose any sleep over it.
Did Matty have a bad round of golf that day? Sorry to see it pan out like this, but definitely believe in our legends freedom of speech to say what he thinks. I don’t think Mr Cortese will lose any sleep over it. Mush On The Beach

9:09am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
Why don't you answer some of those questions, o wise one?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]Why don't you answer some of those questions, o wise one? St Retford

9:10am Thu 18 Oct 12

st.athan saint says...

In my exeprience most successful businessmen aren't very nice.
In my exeprience most successful businessmen aren't very nice. st.athan saint

9:15am Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
You forgot to mention who it was that sacked the programme sellers - people who had been doing the job for years.

Le Tiss is Saints through and through, not a mercenary. If he were, he would have left years ago.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention who it was that sacked the programme sellers - people who had been doing the job for years. Le Tiss is Saints through and through, not a mercenary. If he were, he would have left years ago. Linesman

9:15am Thu 18 Oct 12

#1saintsfan says...

MLT is only giving half the story. He has lost all credibility on this story until he actually gives the reasons for his dislike of NC. At the moment he is just coming across as very bitter and seems to me as sour grapes.

come on matt put up or shut up!
MLT is only giving half the story. He has lost all credibility on this story until he actually gives the reasons for his dislike of NC. At the moment he is just coming across as very bitter and seems to me as sour grapes. come on matt put up or shut up! #1saintsfan

9:18am Thu 18 Oct 12

swesaint says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
zzzzzzzzz, did you not state this a few weeks ago already. You are boring.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzz, did you not state this a few weeks ago already. You are boring. swesaint

9:23am Thu 18 Oct 12

saint61 says...

Just a frustrated ex-pro living in yesteryear.

Keep working for Sky Matt and let NC continue twith the fantastic job he is doing.
Just a frustrated ex-pro living in yesteryear. Keep working for Sky Matt and let NC continue twith the fantastic job he is doing. saint61

9:25am Thu 18 Oct 12

saintand266 says...

Le god is entitled to his opinion just like we are on here. I personally prefer to have someone ruthless in charge of my beloved saints. I would hate us to end up where we were with lower than lowe in charge. I imagine if NC was a kind lovely sweet gentleman some people would still knock him for that . Also why are people still questioning why we have the worlds most premier builders of luxury boats as a sponsor ? Who should we have instead ? Poundland would that be more acceptable to you ?
Le god is entitled to his opinion just like we are on here. I personally prefer to have someone ruthless in charge of my beloved saints. I would hate us to end up where we were with lower than lowe in charge. I imagine if NC was a kind lovely sweet gentleman some people would still knock him for that . Also why are people still questioning why we have the worlds most premier builders of luxury boats as a sponsor ? Who should we have instead ? Poundland would that be more acceptable to you ? saintand266

9:30am Thu 18 Oct 12

saintjak says...

'You'll never guess what I know'

'What?'

'Can't say sorry'

What's the point????

Nothing story
'You'll never guess what I know' 'What?' 'Can't say sorry' What's the point???? Nothing story saintjak

9:32am Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

MGRA wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
why should he "keep his mouth shut" ? he is perfectly entitled to express opinions and lets face it, the ammunition for those opinions is still to be found in large amounts. Those that know MLT know that football aside, he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet in football. I am yet to meet anyone who has said anything even close to that about NC..... With regards the future of the football club and it being in the right hands, well my views differ to those of Matt's but of course there is the possibility he knows something I don't.... Also, MLT is a legend but I recall a conversation I had with Branfoot many many years ago about Matt and Dowie and it was clear out of the two of those players, at the time only one was behaving as a "team" player....
Of course MLT is entitled to his opinion, I didn't mean to say that he isn't, I just meant that it's not very professional to air your dirty laundry in public - especially if you claim to have the 'best interests' of the club at heart.

If he has a real issue which he thinks is affecting the club, then he should give the full story in an attempt to bring about change, not just have a little dig without explanation - don't you agree?

Also, one other related point: I don't know much about Markus, but from everything I've read in the past it seems that he was a genuine, principled, ethical businessman - I can't see why someone like that would willingly and actively entrust his finances and the running of one of his businesses to 'not a very nice human being'. Markus obviously trusted NC's business sense and ethics, so perhaps there's always two sides to every story?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]why should he "keep his mouth shut" ? he is perfectly entitled to express opinions and lets face it, the ammunition for those opinions is still to be found in large amounts. Those that know MLT know that football aside, he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet in football. I am yet to meet anyone who has said anything even close to that about NC..... With regards the future of the football club and it being in the right hands, well my views differ to those of Matt's but of course there is the possibility he knows something I don't.... Also, MLT is a legend but I recall a conversation I had with Branfoot many many years ago about Matt and Dowie and it was clear out of the two of those players, at the time only one was behaving as a "team" player....[/p][/quote]Of course MLT is entitled to his opinion, I didn't mean to say that he isn't, I just meant that it's not very professional to air your dirty laundry in public - especially if you claim to have the 'best interests' of the club at heart. If he has a real issue which he thinks is affecting the club, then he should give the full story in an attempt to bring about change, not just have a little dig without explanation - don't you agree? Also, one other related point: I don't know much about Markus, but from everything I've read in the past it seems that he was a genuine, principled, ethical businessman - I can't see why someone like that would willingly and actively entrust his finances and the running of one of his businesses to 'not a very nice human being'. Markus obviously trusted NC's business sense and ethics, so perhaps there's always two sides to every story? Sainty saint saint

9:42am Thu 18 Oct 12

Rockhopper says...

Whether Cortese is nice or not doesn't bother me as long as he does his job and makes sure Saints are successful.
To be honest with all the associated issues of running a football club i'm sure you have to be a b*****d sometimes.
However LeTiss comment is probably accurate based on two recent issues:
1.Ticket pricing this season for children in parts of the stadium.
2.Treatment of pogramme sellers and the programme shop outlet.
Whether Cortese is nice or not doesn't bother me as long as he does his job and makes sure Saints are successful. To be honest with all the associated issues of running a football club i'm sure you have to be a b*****d sometimes. However LeTiss comment is probably accurate based on two recent issues: 1.Ticket pricing this season for children in parts of the stadium. 2.Treatment of pogramme sellers and the programme shop outlet. Rockhopper

9:45am Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
You forgot to say "In my Opinion" because there are few that agree with your repetitive and incorrect posting, who would you rather trust, a hard nosed business man with ambition for the Club, or a football genius of the past who was a failed cheat? I idolised Le God but, but "in my opinion" he is out of line here. If NC is ever proved to be as bad as some say he is I will eat humble pie, at the moment I reserve the right to respect what he is doing for the Club.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]You forgot to say "In my Opinion" because there are few that agree with your repetitive and incorrect posting, who would you rather trust, a hard nosed business man with ambition for the Club, or a football genius of the past who was a failed cheat? I idolised Le God but, but "in my opinion" he is out of line here. If NC is ever proved to be as bad as some say he is I will eat humble pie, at the moment I reserve the right to respect what he is doing for the Club. OSPREYSAINT

9:47am Thu 18 Oct 12

Paul TS says...

If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please! Paul TS

9:51am Thu 18 Oct 12

franiow says...

MLT is a better midfielder than Cortese, whereas NC is a better businessman. My only criticism of Nicola is that he could handle issues like the programme sellers more diplomatically. Don't give fuel to a fire.
MLT is a better midfielder than Cortese, whereas NC is a better businessman. My only criticism of Nicola is that he could handle issues like the programme sellers more diplomatically. Don't give fuel to a fire. franiow

9:51am Thu 18 Oct 12

Rockhopper says...

Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
Yes LeTiss does have to pay for his tickets.
However so does Cortese.
This decision was made to end the 'freebies' that were going out to
previous players and staff.
[quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]Yes LeTiss does have to pay for his tickets. However so does Cortese. This decision was made to end the 'freebies' that were going out to previous players and staff. Rockhopper

9:55am Thu 18 Oct 12

Just another reader says...

It sounds like Matt had an informal conversation with someone about what he thinks of the current regime, and its been reported as if it's an interview. Low down sneaky journalism. This may well be his opinion, which he's entitled to, but this sort of reporting might jeapordise him being involved with future charity events. I hope not, and I doubt he'd be so petty, but at least have the decency to actually interview him rather than report on a conversation!
It sounds like Matt had an informal conversation with someone about what he thinks of the current regime, and its been reported as if it's an interview. Low down sneaky journalism. This may well be his opinion, which he's entitled to, but this sort of reporting might jeapordise him being involved with future charity events. I hope not, and I doubt he'd be so petty, but at least have the decency to actually interview him rather than report on a conversation! Just another reader

9:57am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes. St Retford

10:13am Thu 18 Oct 12

wizard says...

So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!! wizard

10:17am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
[quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless. St Retford

10:18am Thu 18 Oct 12

Block 34 says...

Did you know baked beans were on special offer at Asda?
sorry... thought it was more newsworthy...
Did you know baked beans were on special offer at Asda? sorry... thought it was more newsworthy... Block 34

10:23am Thu 18 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

I think Matt is prone to a bit of exaggeration from time to time. Take a look at the pic of him above.

You probably think he is celebrating his 'lucky' goal. In fact, Marion Pahars had just asked him how big he thought the gap under Taibi's body was when he scuffed that shot.
I think Matt is prone to a bit of exaggeration from time to time. Take a look at the pic of him above. You probably think he is celebrating his 'lucky' goal. In fact, Marion Pahars had just asked him how big he thought the gap under Taibi's body was when he scuffed that shot. Strasbourg Saint

10:30am Thu 18 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them.

He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them. He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza. Strasbourg Saint

10:38am Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke.

It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke. It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to. Sainty saint saint

10:38am Thu 18 Oct 12

spratt says...

I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo?
I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo? spratt

10:45am Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

I haven't heard any critical analysis of Nicola's business decisions from Le Tiss and this side swipe ie "not a nice human being" is just about as personal as it gets.

Lieberson famously said "Show me an orchestra that likes its conductor and I'll show you a lousy conductor."

Unlike many very charming people, Nicola doesn't seem to have the one fault they often conceal - a total dependence on the gushing appreciation of others.

An effective chairman makes me happy - a nice one is neither here nor there to me.

Le Tiss is a Saint and a real favourite at that - but I wonder what he thinks the net benefit of making this comment will be?
I haven't heard any critical analysis of Nicola's business decisions from Le Tiss and this side swipe ie "not a nice human being" is just about as personal as it gets. Lieberson famously said "Show me an orchestra that likes its conductor and I'll show you a lousy conductor." Unlike many very charming people, Nicola doesn't seem to have the one fault they often conceal - a total dependence on the gushing appreciation of others. An effective chairman makes me happy - a nice one is neither here nor there to me. Le Tiss is a Saint and a real favourite at that - but I wonder what he thinks the net benefit of making this comment will be? Confucious

10:49am Thu 18 Oct 12

notaclue says...

Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!!
That's what we all want after all isn't it?
Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!! That's what we all want after all isn't it? notaclue

11:00am Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

notaclue wrote:
Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!!
That's what we all want after all isn't it?
Up to a point. I was so popular at school that everyone hated me.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!! That's what we all want after all isn't it?[/p][/quote]Up to a point. I was so popular at school that everyone hated me. Confucious

11:00am Thu 18 Oct 12

SaintAsh1964 says...

spratt wrote:
I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo?
Not sure all of your comments are correct, NC was ML personal assistant/ confidant/personal banker/business partner and it was he who pushed ML towards buying the club, and the changes at the club are what you get when you reach the top table, unpleasant as some of them might be.
As for our precarious position after 7 games and 3 of those against the top 3 teams in the country and 1 against a team who have had their best start to a league campaign, we are where most punters would of said we would be after the teams we have faced.
Also our motley collection of players! £30million worth of cr@p? one of the most exciting players out of Europe and an International, Golden boot winner from the last ACN and an International, England under 21 right back, one of the best strikers in the Championship last year and another International defender, just cant please some people.
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo?[/p][/quote]Not sure all of your comments are correct, NC was ML personal assistant/ confidant/personal banker/business partner and it was he who pushed ML towards buying the club, and the changes at the club are what you get when you reach the top table, unpleasant as some of them might be. As for our precarious position after 7 games and 3 of those against the top 3 teams in the country and 1 against a team who have had their best start to a league campaign, we are where most punters would of said we would be after the teams we have faced. Also our motley collection of players! £30million worth of cr@p? one of the most exciting players out of Europe and an International, Golden boot winner from the last ACN and an International, England under 21 right back, one of the best strikers in the Championship last year and another International defender, just cant please some people. SaintAsh1964

11:06am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them.

He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza.
OMG he sounds like an absolute TYRANT.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them. He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza.[/p][/quote]OMG he sounds like an absolute TYRANT. St Retford

11:10am Thu 18 Oct 12

billythesaint says...

Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger.... billythesaint

11:11am Thu 18 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them.

He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza.
OMG he sounds like an absolute TYRANT.
If the FA had only known, I'm certain he would have failed the fit and proper test.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]No, I can confirm this. I met NC in Biel last year. He was eating pizza with his family when I interrupted them. He stopped and chatted for a while, answered my questions, shared a joke or two, asked me where I was from and signed autographs before I said goodbye ......... and do you know what? He didn't even offer me a piece of his pizza.[/p][/quote]OMG he sounds like an absolute TYRANT.[/p][/quote]If the FA had only known, I'm certain he would have failed the fit and proper test. Strasbourg Saint

11:21am Thu 18 Oct 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

romsey saint wrote:
mmm sounds like our grapes to me
Well I've been listening to my grapes for an hour and they've not made any comment about Nicola Cortese so far, but granted it's early days.
[quote][p][bold]romsey saint[/bold] wrote: mmm sounds like our grapes to me[/p][/quote]Well I've been listening to my grapes for an hour and they've not made any comment about Nicola Cortese so far, but granted it's early days. MisterGrimsdale

11:24am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club. St Retford

11:32am Thu 18 Oct 12

saint61 says...

Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
[quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game. saint61

11:32am Thu 18 Oct 12

billythesaint says...

St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.[/p][/quote]This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing. billythesaint

11:35am Thu 18 Oct 12

sarfhamton says...

Le Tiss, i not sure we need a nice person to lead us to premiership safety.

We love you for entertaining us but please keep you mouth shut.
Le Tiss, i not sure we need a nice person to lead us to premiership safety. We love you for entertaining us but please keep you mouth shut. sarfhamton

11:36am Thu 18 Oct 12

notaclue says...

My guess is that Matt has found a conroversial topic for his after dinner speeches, it's one that will get him in the news.
He has decided to run with it but in all honesty he knows it will only make this sad situation worse, but he can't resist doing it.

Matt wants to hit NC over the head with his handbag, meanwhile NC will just get on with running the club and snubbing Matt, they don't like each other - so what, grow up, accept it and move on.
My guess is that Matt has found a conroversial topic for his after dinner speeches, it's one that will get him in the news. He has decided to run with it but in all honesty he knows it will only make this sad situation worse, but he can't resist doing it. Matt wants to hit NC over the head with his handbag, meanwhile NC will just get on with running the club and snubbing Matt, they don't like each other - so what, grow up, accept it and move on. notaclue

11:36am Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

billythesaint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.
Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.[/p][/quote]This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.[/p][/quote]Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience. Sainty saint saint

11:36am Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!!
That's what we all want after all isn't it?
Up to a point. I was so popular at school that everyone hated me.
There is a thin line between love and hate, you just didn't know which side of the line you were on.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Just you wait - when Micky Fialka finally sells his mum and dads house and makes Matt LeTiss Southampton Chairman then at long last we will have a nice person in charge!! That's what we all want after all isn't it?[/p][/quote]Up to a point. I was so popular at school that everyone hated me.[/p][/quote]There is a thin line between love and hate, you just didn't know which side of the line you were on. OSPREYSAINT

11:40am Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ! MGRA

11:46am Thu 18 Oct 12

St Retford says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.
Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.
Anyone watch Grand Designs last night? What an absolute BEAST of a house.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.[/p][/quote]This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.[/p][/quote]Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.[/p][/quote]Anyone watch Grand Designs last night? What an absolute BEAST of a house. St Retford

11:49am Thu 18 Oct 12

tinto44 says...

Wow Matt!!! As a season ticket holder and supporter for over 60 years, I find it very difficult to understand why you consistantly run down the Chairman. If you have a problem.SORT IT OUT !!! but not through mindless comments and getting Sky pundits lined up with you. I Had a great respect for yourself and Jeff Stelling, until this outburst, but you are gradually eating away at it. Please Matt, don't destroy the great respect I had for you as a true true Saint. Is it your club or not ? If so then support it...all of it. We are in the Premier League, thanks to NC and NA...just remember that please, and keep your opinions to yourself, and don't get Stelling to fire the bullets !!!
Wow Matt!!! As a season ticket holder and supporter for over 60 years, I find it very difficult to understand why you consistantly run down the Chairman. If you have a problem.SORT IT OUT !!! but not through mindless comments and getting Sky pundits lined up with you. I Had a great respect for yourself and Jeff Stelling, until this outburst, but you are gradually eating away at it. Please Matt, don't destroy the great respect I had for you as a true true Saint. Is it your club or not ? If so then support it...all of it. We are in the Premier League, thanks to NC and NA...just remember that please, and keep your opinions to yourself, and don't get Stelling to fire the bullets !!! tinto44

11:51am Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.
Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.
Not if they have better taste than you!
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.[/p][/quote]This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.[/p][/quote]Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.[/p][/quote]Not if they have better taste than you! OSPREYSAINT

11:53am Thu 18 Oct 12

Jameski says...

midlandsaint says...
8:26am Thu 18 Oct 12

Le Tiss is a Saints legend. A great player, a genius on the pitch. Without him our descent to the lower leagues would have occurred much much sooner. However, he has his own personal flaws.

But....

Le Tiss is part of our history. Cortese is our now and the key to our near future. While it would be 'nice' if he were a very nice human being I am more interested in him being a very effective Chairman who will continue to take our club forward. If being a ruthless hard-as-nails mafia **** helps him to do that then I'm all for it.


Unfortunately he's not that hard, francis benali did have him up against a wall in tears for trashing his house when he rented it....
midlandsaint says... 8:26am Thu 18 Oct 12 Le Tiss is a Saints legend. A great player, a genius on the pitch. Without him our descent to the lower leagues would have occurred much much sooner. However, he has his own personal flaws. But.... Le Tiss is part of our history. Cortese is our now and the key to our near future. While it would be 'nice' if he were a very nice human being I am more interested in him being a very effective Chairman who will continue to take our club forward. If being a ruthless hard-as-nails mafia **** helps him to do that then I'm all for it. Unfortunately he's not that hard, francis benali did have him up against a wall in tears for trashing his house when he rented it.... Jameski

11:53am Thu 18 Oct 12

Beer Monster says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke.

It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to.
This. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but it's whether or not that opinion is self-formed that shows intelligence.

Oh, and yeah, that house on Grand Designs was a bit of a monster. Imagine the parties you could throw there.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke. It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to.[/p][/quote]This. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but it's whether or not that opinion is self-formed that shows intelligence. Oh, and yeah, that house on Grand Designs was a bit of a monster. Imagine the parties you could throw there. Beer Monster

11:55am Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

I think I've got to the bottom of the Franny issue, thanks to a word with his house cleaner.

Nicola brought a large cuckoo clock over from Switzerland and Franny, a stickler for cleanliness, demanded he put paper underneath it "to catch the droppings."
I think I've got to the bottom of the Franny issue, thanks to a word with his house cleaner. Nicola brought a large cuckoo clock over from Switzerland and Franny, a stickler for cleanliness, demanded he put paper underneath it "to catch the droppings." Confucious

11:56am Thu 18 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

MLT's pinnacle bid took us to the very brink of wind up. Since then I have separated Matt's football prowess and loyalty. That memory is a proud part of history. However the alter ego dark side: the throw-in betting scam, jibes and constant sniping bring nothing but ill repute. It's immature and frankly not worth print. Printing half of one side of the story is gutter press
Put up or shut up MLT and The Echo No case to answer from Nicola Cortese..
MLT's pinnacle bid took us to the very brink of wind up. Since then I have separated Matt's football prowess and loyalty. That memory is a proud part of history. However the alter ego dark side: the throw-in betting scam, jibes and constant sniping bring nothing but ill repute. It's immature and frankly not worth print. Printing half of one side of the story is gutter press Put up or shut up MLT and The Echo No case to answer from Nicola Cortese.. Tirau Dan

12:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Hobson82 says...

When Cortese arrived at the club Matt invited him with open arms. Cortese needed a place to live, Matt and Fran own a house in Chilworth which Cortese rented off them. I believe there was an incident involving rent or the condition of the house when he moved out. Not sure exactly but I believe this is where they fell out.

As Matt said I'm sure the exact reasons will come out eventually.
When Cortese arrived at the club Matt invited him with open arms. Cortese needed a place to live, Matt and Fran own a house in Chilworth which Cortese rented off them. I believe there was an incident involving rent or the condition of the house when he moved out. Not sure exactly but I believe this is where they fell out. As Matt said I'm sure the exact reasons will come out eventually. Hobson82

12:12pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
MLT's pinnacle bid took us to the very brink of wind up. Since then I have separated Matt's football prowess and loyalty. That memory is a proud part of history. However the alter ego dark side: the throw-in betting scam, jibes and constant sniping bring nothing but ill repute. It's immature and frankly not worth print. Printing half of one side of the story is gutter press
Put up or shut up MLT and The Echo No case to answer from Nicola Cortese..
interesting. How do you propose the Echo "put up" then ? They are banned from Saints !?!? Its not gutter press, it actually mentions that an attempt was made by AP to contact the club but of course due to the media boycott there is never two sides of any story. Saints, compared to any other prem club is a black hole for news....
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: MLT's pinnacle bid took us to the very brink of wind up. Since then I have separated Matt's football prowess and loyalty. That memory is a proud part of history. However the alter ego dark side: the throw-in betting scam, jibes and constant sniping bring nothing but ill repute. It's immature and frankly not worth print. Printing half of one side of the story is gutter press Put up or shut up MLT and The Echo No case to answer from Nicola Cortese..[/p][/quote]interesting. How do you propose the Echo "put up" then ? They are banned from Saints !?!? Its not gutter press, it actually mentions that an attempt was made by AP to contact the club but of course due to the media boycott there is never two sides of any story. Saints, compared to any other prem club is a black hole for news.... MGRA

12:15pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

My spaniel Fenton is definitely not a nice human being, but that isn't the reason why I would not support him getting the chairman's job. He simply isn't clever enough.

I don't mind if Nicola isn't a nice human being, but if, like Fenton, he is noticeably surprised by his own f@rts, then I will start to worry.
My spaniel Fenton is definitely not a nice human being, but that isn't the reason why I would not support him getting the chairman's job. He simply isn't clever enough. I don't mind if Nicola isn't a nice human being, but if, like Fenton, he is noticeably surprised by his own f@rts, then I will start to worry. Confucious

12:16pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not. Linesman

12:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed. OSPREYSAINT

12:24pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now. Linesman

12:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

spratt wrote:
I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo?
No, we are not entitled to know what goes on. We may like to know but there is no entitlement. It is not our club. We support it. We do not own it. We may look upon ourselves as supporters of the club but the club regards us as paying customers, nothing more, nothing less.

STID
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: I wish Matt had given some detail as to his obvious dislike of NC. However I suspect there is a great deal of truth behind his comments. NC may be an experienced businessman but lets not forget that it was MARCUS who saved our Club. I am not sure that even he would approve of some of the changes that have taken place since his death. The Club in my view is not the family friendly club it was before NC arrived. Too little appreciation of the bread and butter of any club - its supporters. Too much emphasis on the Corporates. Still thats business. And is he running the Club that well? We started this all important season totally unprepared after months of dithering over who might or might not join us. Finally bought a motley collection of players and have yet to field a settled side. Hence we are in a precarious situation with no way out until January and relegation looking a distinct possibility. And why the veil of secrecy over the Club. Are the supporters not entitled to know what goes on and not rely on speculation from the Echo?[/p][/quote]No, we are not entitled to know what goes on. We may like to know but there is no entitlement. It is not our club. We support it. We do not own it. We may look upon ourselves as supporters of the club but the club regards us as paying customers, nothing more, nothing less. STID st1halo

12:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
billythesaint wrote:
Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....
O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so.

It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.
This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.
Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.
Last time I visted you had worn out lino in some places and bare boards elsewhere.

I guess you must have been to B&Q on a Wednesday and bought some carpet tiles using your discount card.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Le Tiss is being vague about what exactly Cortese has done but I got the same from Franny Benali. Neither have told precisely what has happened but both desperately want to! Like he said, if and when Cortese leaves the club we'll find out. It's a right cliffhanger....[/p][/quote]O it's all because (apparently) Nicola stayed in Franny's house for a bit when he first moved over. Nicola thought the carpets or something were a bit sh1t and changed them without permission and refused to pay Franny for doing so. It's been a source of conflict ever since. They should take a leaf out of Jason Puncheon's book and bury the hatchet because all this bickering does nothing but undermine all the amazing positive work going on at the club.[/p][/quote]This has cracked me up! Can he come stay at mine? My carpets need changing.[/p][/quote]Speaking from personal experience, I f*****g hate it when guests come round my house and start changing my carpets. Really screws with the ambience.[/p][/quote]Last time I visted you had worn out lino in some places and bare boards elsewhere. I guess you must have been to B&Q on a Wednesday and bought some carpet tiles using your discount card. Linesman

12:29pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Red n White says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
I had to laugh one of the comments saying Cortese has been giving MLT gried - I've never heard Cortese even mention his name. If anything it's the other way round. This latest rant is at a charity golf day and he's still slagging cortese off. He was complaining the other week that a friend of his couldn't use his season ticket when he himself was already in the ground working for Sky.

In my opinion MLT is starting to come across a bit like the cherries owner. Maybe the loss of free tickets and drinks are the problem here?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]I had to laugh one of the comments saying Cortese has been giving MLT gried - I've never heard Cortese even mention his name. If anything it's the other way round. This latest rant is at a charity golf day and he's still slagging cortese off. He was complaining the other week that a friend of his couldn't use his season ticket when he himself was already in the ground working for Sky. In my opinion MLT is starting to come across a bit like the cherries owner. Maybe the loss of free tickets and drinks are the problem here? Red n White

12:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

Pity that the DE cannot engineer a more constructive relationship with club rather than throwing out this junk media comments picked up second hand.
MLT v NC is old hat , business is business, and Matt is still the greatest ambassador this club could have but obviously not at the moment.
And I doubt very much if MLT is after freebie entry into St Marys like some, so that is a non issue.
Pity that the DE cannot engineer a more constructive relationship with club rather than throwing out this junk media comments picked up second hand. MLT v NC is old hat , business is business, and Matt is still the greatest ambassador this club could have but obviously not at the moment. And I doubt very much if MLT is after freebie entry into St Marys like some, so that is a non issue. redsnapper

12:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Shooter says...

I know it may seem that Cortese is our current saviour, and I admit that had it not been for some of his dealings in the past few years we probably wouldn't be back in the premiership right now.

BUT...

Speak to almost ANY member of the staff at St Mary's, and they will have stories about Cortese and how, as Matt puts it, "He is not a very nice human being. It's as simple as that."

I know several members of staff, including those involved with the playing staff, and they have all said something along the same lines.

He may have been involved in saving Saints, As with Rupert Lowe, he is getting too involved in the playing side, and it will go wrong somewhere for someone.

Both Cortese and Lowe are excellent at running a business - No-one can deny that.

Rupert got burnt because he didn't understand how to run a football club within the 'business', and tried to get involved in the playing side.
Other than that, from what I hear from my friends at SMS, he was actually a decent bloke - just a bit of a wally.

I don't hear anything like those compliments when they mention Cortese.

In regard to Matt, he should just leave himself out of the equation, rather than continuing to drag it out. Pointless.
I know it may seem that Cortese is our current saviour, and I admit that had it not been for some of his dealings in the past few years we probably wouldn't be back in the premiership right now. BUT... Speak to almost ANY member of the staff at St Mary's, and they will have stories about Cortese and how, as Matt puts it, "He is not a very nice human being. It's as simple as that." I know several members of staff, including those involved with the playing staff, and they have all said something along the same lines. He may have been involved in saving Saints, As with Rupert Lowe, he is getting too involved in the playing side, and it will go wrong somewhere for someone. Both Cortese and Lowe are excellent at running a business - No-one can deny that. Rupert got burnt because he didn't understand how to run a football club within the 'business', and tried to get involved in the playing side. Other than that, from what I hear from my friends at SMS, he was actually a decent bloke - just a bit of a wally. I don't hear anything like those compliments when they mention Cortese. In regard to Matt, he should just leave himself out of the equation, rather than continuing to drag it out. Pointless. Shooter

12:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell. Mush On The Beach

1:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.
truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on. arthur dalyrimple

1:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Costa Baz says...

Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years.

You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop.
Outrageous!!

Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment.
But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments.

If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years. You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop. Outrageous!! Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment. But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments. If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on. Costa Baz

1:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Here'say is the curse of many a person's life private and public, businessmen or employee...

It was Herr Marcus Liebherr's money that saved us...

NC I think gets it 50% right and 50% wrong however the million's bestowed by Marcus can hide otherwise painful mistakes...

Losing Pardew and gaining Nigel..50%.

Promotions 100%..x 2.

Losing or failing to gain goodwill of press 0%...

Pricing policy 25%

Effective Marketing of SFC 25%.

Catering and club facilities, rules and regulations, general staff attitude to fans and morale within non footballing areas 0%.

No guesswork here...now I am a businessman and have had some serious (thank the stars) success and let me tell you, you get more fly's with honey than you do by swatting them..

Nastiness may get short term results but eventually the bitterness and rancour builds until the situation is untenable....we can only hope that rumour's of NC lack of "diplomacy and thoughtlessness are wrong or he learns from them.....otherwise there will be tear's on here..
Here'say is the curse of many a person's life private and public, businessmen or employee... It was Herr Marcus Liebherr's money that saved us... NC I think gets it 50% right and 50% wrong however the million's bestowed by Marcus can hide otherwise painful mistakes... Losing Pardew and gaining Nigel..50%. Promotions 100%..x 2. Losing or failing to gain goodwill of press 0%... Pricing policy 25% Effective Marketing of SFC 25%. Catering and club facilities, rules and regulations, general staff attitude to fans and morale within non footballing areas 0%. No guesswork here...now I am a businessman and have had some serious (thank the stars) success and let me tell you, you get more fly's with honey than you do by swatting them.. Nastiness may get short term results but eventually the bitterness and rancour builds until the situation is untenable....we can only hope that rumour's of NC lack of "diplomacy and thoughtlessness are wrong or he learns from them.....otherwise there will be tear's on here.. warrens 76

1:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

neverblu says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke.

It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to.
Oh I don't know, I really hate pompey and that was all because my mother told me what I should be ;)
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]This is exactly the problem isn't it? Some people claim that a lot of people on here are happy-clapper, NC-can-do-no-wrong sheep, but don't actually give any reason WHY we shouldn't think he might be an OK bloke. It's tantamount to saying "I don't like him so you shouldn't" - if someone can give me a concrete reason why Markus was wrong to trust this guy with millions of his hard-earned pounds then maybe I'd think twice, but I'm not going to hate someone just because someone else tells me to.[/p][/quote]Oh I don't know, I really hate pompey and that was all because my mother told me what I should be ;) neverblu

1:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that. Sainty saint saint

1:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

George4th says...

Cortese persuaded Liebherr to invest in Saints as part of Liebherr's Investment Portfolio. This was at a time when no one else was interested in Saints! Absolutely no one!

Cortese took on the mantle of running Saints and his record is there for all to see - Amazing! (Of course he will get some decisions wrong because he is not infallible. However, he has clearly got most decisions right!)
MLT was a very good player who could have been great. And his attachment to Saints is to be applauded. But, he had his day and he was well rewarded for his efforts. He is simply part of history. We live in the here and now!
Cortese persuaded Liebherr to invest in Saints as part of Liebherr's Investment Portfolio. This was at a time when no one else was interested in Saints! Absolutely no one! Cortese took on the mantle of running Saints and his record is there for all to see - Amazing! (Of course he will get some decisions wrong because he is not infallible. However, he has clearly got most decisions right!) MLT was a very good player who could have been great. And his attachment to Saints is to be applauded. But, he had his day and he was well rewarded for his efforts. He is simply part of history. We live in the here and now! George4th

1:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

notaclue says...

The Don 5 - 0 Matt LeTiss

Latest OG by Matt

"Okay he may be winning but I'd just like to say he's not very nice."

Analyse it - then go away and draw a blue line under it Matt.
The Don 5 - 0 Matt LeTiss Latest OG by Matt "Okay he may be winning but I'd just like to say he's not very nice." Analyse it - then go away and draw a blue line under it Matt. notaclue

1:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
Its Patrick !!!
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]Its Patrick !!! st1halo

1:21pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Sainty saint saint says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.
No, that's not the truth and you know it.

We have a FACILITY in place for finance if we need it short-term. There is no evidence whatsoever that we have used this facility.

Some people really are taken in by anything aren't they?
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.[/p][/quote]No, that's not the truth and you know it. We have a FACILITY in place for finance if we need it short-term. There is no evidence whatsoever that we have used this facility. Some people really are taken in by anything aren't they? Sainty saint saint

1:24pm Thu 18 Oct 12

SaintAsh1964 says...

Red n White wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
I had to laugh one of the comments saying Cortese has been giving MLT gried - I've never heard Cortese even mention his name. If anything it's the other way round. This latest rant is at a charity golf day and he's still slagging cortese off. He was complaining the other week that a friend of his couldn't use his season ticket when he himself was already in the ground working for Sky.

In my opinion MLT is starting to come across a bit like the cherries owner. Maybe the loss of free tickets and drinks are the problem here?
In reply to Red n White paragraph by paragraph;

1) Why, what good has this done?
2) Proof please, what is a "nutjob" and please supply details of YOUR meetings with him.
3) Where are the details of Cortese slagging Matt off in public
4) Adkins
5) Team Saints, everyone involved in bringing in players, scouts, manager, coaches ultimate say is Cortese's though as he holds the purse strings.
7) He didn't Adkins did, unless you have proof that he didnt?
8) No that's not true, that's called embezzlement, it's illegal and would go to prison.
9) Because they paid the best price
10) I'm amazed you believe so much internet crap!
[quote][p][bold]Red n White[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]I had to laugh one of the comments saying Cortese has been giving MLT gried - I've never heard Cortese even mention his name. If anything it's the other way round. This latest rant is at a charity golf day and he's still slagging cortese off. He was complaining the other week that a friend of his couldn't use his season ticket when he himself was already in the ground working for Sky. In my opinion MLT is starting to come across a bit like the cherries owner. Maybe the loss of free tickets and drinks are the problem here?[/p][/quote]In reply to Red n White paragraph by paragraph; 1) Why, what good has this done? 2) Proof please, what is a "nutjob" and please supply details of YOUR meetings with him. 3) Where are the details of Cortese slagging Matt off in public 4) Adkins 5) Team Saints, everyone involved in bringing in players, scouts, manager, coaches ultimate say is Cortese's though as he holds the purse strings. 7) He didn't Adkins did, unless you have proof that he didnt? 8) No that's not true, that's called embezzlement, it's illegal and would go to prison. 9) Because they paid the best price 10) I'm amazed you believe so much internet crap! SaintAsh1964

1:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
Didn't see the episode but heard that everyone in it went walking down the road for a fight when a gigantic 800 ft hole suddenly appeared and they all fell into it. As they are all dead now, all the loose knots have been tied up.

Sounds like a bit of lazy scriptwriting to me.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]Didn't see the episode but heard that everyone in it went walking down the road for a fight when a gigantic 800 ft hole suddenly appeared and they all fell into it. As they are all dead now, all the loose knots have been tied up. Sounds like a bit of lazy scriptwriting to me. Confucious

1:31pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team
Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that.[/p][/quote]While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on. STID st1halo

1:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

lowe esteem says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
Why are your loyalties torn?
Nothing to hear or see here, move on.
Even the people alleged to have reason to 'say' something actually 'say' very little, and the others, well, they're the 'no smoke without fire' merchants who would be better employed investigating the carp on Eastenders-if only for background information for our visit to the Boleyn.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]Why are your loyalties torn? Nothing to hear or see here, move on. Even the people alleged to have reason to 'say' something actually 'say' very little, and the others, well, they're the 'no smoke without fire' merchants who would be better employed investigating the carp on Eastenders-if only for background information for our visit to the Boleyn. lowe esteem

1:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

The Biggest problem with chairmen and chief executives these days are how high profile they have become. Also how many meddle in team selection and players buys . If NC sticks to the commercial and financial side I will be happy cos so far he appears to be getting it right, sorry mlt . Len Shackleton had it right in his autobiography when he had a chapter entitled "what directors know about football" he left a blank page !
Lastly as far as I know ML saved the club , it's his money and legacy that NC is in charge of
The Biggest problem with chairmen and chief executives these days are how high profile they have become. Also how many meddle in team selection and players buys . If NC sticks to the commercial and financial side I will be happy cos so far he appears to be getting it right, sorry mlt . Len Shackleton had it right in his autobiography when he had a chapter entitled "what directors know about football" he left a blank page ! Lastly as far as I know ML saved the club , it's his money and legacy that NC is in charge of Scarborosaint

1:41pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Ontario Saint says...

Sorry but it sounds like sour grapes on Matty's part and maybe a little jealousy too

Yes Matty may be a legend but unfortunately his Group"s bid to save the club failed

The Club was really fortunate to have ML & NC succeed not only with the takeover but with two successive promotions.

Running a successful business and being a great player are two separate functions.and MLT would be far better to keep his opinions to himsel.f Unfortunately his comments take away the great memories so many of us remember rather than stirring it up and losing some of the respect we all have many for his playing ability . It almost sounds vindictive as the current Management could not have achieved more than has been accomplished over the past 4 years.

.
Sorry but it sounds like sour grapes on Matty's part and maybe a little jealousy too Yes Matty may be a legend but unfortunately his Group"s bid to save the club failed The Club was really fortunate to have ML & NC succeed not only with the takeover but with two successive promotions. Running a successful business and being a great player are two separate functions.and MLT would be far better to keep his opinions to himsel.f Unfortunately his comments take away the great memories so many of us remember rather than stirring it up and losing some of the respect we all have many for his playing ability . It almost sounds vindictive as the current Management could not have achieved more than has been accomplished over the past 4 years. . Ontario Saint

1:42pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
not billy mitchell
It's either fox or guly.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]not billy mitchell It's either fox or guly. angus mc coatup

1:47pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement
s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

2:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
my god what is your problem with NC?
did he sack you?
who is responsible for the posts you write?
who decided that you are not in saints plans as a fan this year?
is it right that your personal bills are not paid by the easter bunny?
why are you sponsored by anusol?
i`m even more amazed that anyone can be bothered to read your anti NC posts!

oh happy clappy days!
why is it that just because i support the saints, and am mostly happy with the way that NC has brought us from L1 to the prem in 3 years, that you call me a `happy clapper`? i dont agree with all that NC has done and will say so at that time. however you post the same rubbish everytime there is a story about the management of the club!
as you are so good at always asking the same questions why not answer them with facts!
so come on tell us all,
how do YOU know NC picks the team?
how do YOU know NC picks the players we bring in?
how do YOU know NC decided sharp wasnt part of his plans this season?
how do YOU know NC has his personal bills paid by the club? and this is not approved the liebherr family?
what is WRONG with sunseeker sponsoring the dug out seats? why are you questioning that deal? why cant sunseeker, makers of luxury yachts and superyachts on the south coast, be a sponsor? Sunseeker yachts are sold in 61 countries and 5 continents, so a multinational company based near southampton (poole is not that far) and could have saints fans as employees is not allowed to sponsor saints?
saints are in the prem and as such their games are broadcast around the world, sunseeker sell yachts around the world. sunseeker want to advertise their brand, and this is a great way to do it. there its simple!
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]my god what is your problem with NC? did he sack you? who is responsible for the posts you write? who decided that you are not in saints plans as a fan this year? is it right that your personal bills are not paid by the easter bunny? why are you sponsored by anusol? i`m even more amazed that anyone can be bothered to read your anti NC posts! oh happy clappy days! why is it that just because i support the saints, and am mostly happy with the way that NC has brought us from L1 to the prem in 3 years, that you call me a `happy clapper`? i dont agree with all that NC has done and will say so at that time. however you post the same rubbish everytime there is a story about the management of the club! as you are so good at always asking the same questions why not answer them with facts! so come on tell us all, how do YOU know NC picks the team? how do YOU know NC picks the players we bring in? how do YOU know NC decided sharp wasnt part of his plans this season? how do YOU know NC has his personal bills paid by the club? and this is not approved the liebherr family? what is WRONG with sunseeker sponsoring the dug out seats? why are you questioning that deal? why cant sunseeker, makers of luxury yachts and superyachts on the south coast, be a sponsor? Sunseeker yachts are sold in 61 countries and 5 continents, so a multinational company based near southampton (poole is not that far) and could have saints fans as employees is not allowed to sponsor saints? saints are in the prem and as such their games are broadcast around the world, sunseeker sell yachts around the world. sunseeker want to advertise their brand, and this is a great way to do it. there its simple! saintshorse101

2:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.
truth?
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.[/p][/quote]truth? OSPREYSAINT

2:16pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Shareholder says...

MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Bit of a silly statement. The last game was televised so the gate was reasonable considering. You've also clearly not been taking notice of developments in Africa and Japan as the club seeks to boost its international market exposure - individual TV deals in both markets alone have massive potential so we shouldn't be surprised that players from both were signed in the summer and all pretty good internationals into the bargain. And you don't get to be a successful individual in the hard nosed world of Swiss banking without having something exceptional about you. Cortese is in fact a very efficient and effective business man. With him at the helm Saints will never go into administration again.

I have never met with either Le Tissier nor Cortese so I can't comment on their 'niceness' and nor do I care. A successful and sustainable football club to support is my interest. In the context of Southampton Football Club the business abilities of both men is so publicly available you don't need to meet them to understand them. Cortese is experienced and successful and has brought us huge entertainment and undreamed of success. With no experience whatever but with a clearly huge amount of gullability and nativity Le Tissier would have taken us to the sort of farcical and bankrupt depths that Pompey currently enjoy in no time flat. Cortese is the right man for this club at this time.

One last thought. Just because you 've been a loyal servant of your employer for 17 years doesn't give you the right to privileged position and regular freebies. It rarely happens in any other form of employment so why in football? Le Tissier got hugely well paid to do his job and on the back of that continues to be well paid - on all counts way above what fans get paid. I'm a loyal fan of the club of 45 years service. It's cost me a fortune and from the likes of me Le Tissier earned a fortune. I'm still paying - so can he!
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Bit of a silly statement. The last game was televised so the gate was reasonable considering. You've also clearly not been taking notice of developments in Africa and Japan as the club seeks to boost its international market exposure - individual TV deals in both markets alone have massive potential so we shouldn't be surprised that players from both were signed in the summer and all pretty good internationals into the bargain. And you don't get to be a successful individual in the hard nosed world of Swiss banking without having something exceptional about you. Cortese is in fact a very efficient and effective business man. With him at the helm Saints will never go into administration again. I have never met with either Le Tissier nor Cortese so I can't comment on their 'niceness' and nor do I care. A successful and sustainable football club to support is my interest. In the context of Southampton Football Club the business abilities of both men is so publicly available you don't need to meet them to understand them. Cortese is experienced and successful and has brought us huge entertainment and undreamed of success. With no experience whatever but with a clearly huge amount of gullability and nativity Le Tissier would have taken us to the sort of farcical and bankrupt depths that Pompey currently enjoy in no time flat. Cortese is the right man for this club at this time. One last thought. Just because you 've been a loyal servant of your employer for 17 years doesn't give you the right to privileged position and regular freebies. It rarely happens in any other form of employment so why in football? Le Tissier got hugely well paid to do his job and on the back of that continues to be well paid - on all counts way above what fans get paid. I'm a loyal fan of the club of 45 years service. It's cost me a fortune and from the likes of me Le Tissier earned a fortune. I'm still paying - so can he! Shareholder

2:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
Why are your loyalties torn?
Nothing to hear or see here, move on.
Even the people alleged to have reason to 'say' something actually 'say' very little, and the others, well, they're the 'no smoke without fire' merchants who would be better employed investigating the carp on Eastenders-if only for background information for our visit to the Boleyn.
I won’t move on until I’m good and ready thank you. Plenty more carp for you to clean up before I’m finished Parkie.
Roll on Upton PARK, stay with tradition please. What type of 3rd rate Parkie are you calling it the Boleyn?
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]Why are your loyalties torn? Nothing to hear or see here, move on. Even the people alleged to have reason to 'say' something actually 'say' very little, and the others, well, they're the 'no smoke without fire' merchants who would be better employed investigating the carp on Eastenders-if only for background information for our visit to the Boleyn.[/p][/quote]I won’t move on until I’m good and ready thank you. Plenty more carp for you to clean up before I’m finished Parkie. Roll on Upton PARK, stay with tradition please. What type of 3rd rate Parkie are you calling it the Boleyn? Mush On The Beach

2:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

SaintMax says...

wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Advert in the Southern Echo 4 years ago.. Chairman required for nearly extinct football club, must be a nice bloke...

If thats his only flaw then he can run my club for the next decade and beyond!
[quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Advert in the Southern Echo 4 years ago.. Chairman required for nearly extinct football club, must be a nice bloke... If thats his only flaw then he can run my club for the next decade and beyond! SaintMax

2:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

st1halo wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
I fear my loyalties are torn on this one.
Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch.
Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm?
Can’t we all just kiss and make up?

Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.
Its Patrick !!!
A Rum a day keeps Erectile Dysfunction at bay, good on you big fella.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: I fear my loyalties are torn on this one. Matty is my Saints legend, FACT!!!. What with scoring all the wonder goals on the pitch and scoring with the wonderful Emily Symons (Aussie soap babe) off the pitch. Nicola is a hardnosed banker and introduced our saviour to the club. He also likes to do a bit of DIY around the home, what’s the harm? Can’t we all just kiss and make up? Talking of soaps, there is a slight Eastenders delay in Oz. Can anyone tell me who Kat Moon is doing the dirty with in Eastenders? Mrs Mush thinks it Michael Moon, me I think it’s Billy Mitchell.[/p][/quote]Its Patrick !!![/p][/quote]A Rum a day keeps Erectile Dysfunction at bay, good on you big fella. Mush On The Beach

2:42pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
arthur dalyrimple wrote:
truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.
truth?
arthur who?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.[/p][/quote]truth?[/p][/quote]arthur who? Mush On The Beach

3:06pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.
on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.[/p][/quote]on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it. MGRA

3:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years.

You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop.
Outrageous!!

Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment.
But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments.

If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on.
If they worked for 40 years then they get a discount card that they can use nd also they have free lunch provided by the firm, with free transport from their home. For this area, it is held at St Mary's.

As an ex-Sainsbury's employee, I know this to be a FACT.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years. You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop. Outrageous!! Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment. But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments. If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on.[/p][/quote]If they worked for 40 years then they get a discount card that they can use nd also they have free lunch provided by the firm, with free transport from their home. For this area, it is held at St Mary's. As an ex-Sainsbury's employee, I know this to be a FACT. Linesman

3:10pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement

s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
Plenty of balance in your assessment Seed. It’s tough to really get inside the persona of Cortese when he plays the Abramovich card of secrecy. Keep the winning formula going at our football club and I guess we will all have to show out respects, however begrudgingly.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]Plenty of balance in your assessment Seed. It’s tough to really get inside the persona of Cortese when he plays the Abramovich card of secrecy. Keep the winning formula going at our football club and I guess we will all have to show out respects, however begrudgingly. Mush On The Beach

3:12pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement

s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID st1halo

3:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Shareholder wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Bit of a silly statement. The last game was televised so the gate was reasonable considering. You've also clearly not been taking notice of developments in Africa and Japan as the club seeks to boost its international market exposure - individual TV deals in both markets alone have massive potential so we shouldn't be surprised that players from both were signed in the summer and all pretty good internationals into the bargain. And you don't get to be a successful individual in the hard nosed world of Swiss banking without having something exceptional about you. Cortese is in fact a very efficient and effective business man. With him at the helm Saints will never go into administration again.

I have never met with either Le Tissier nor Cortese so I can't comment on their 'niceness' and nor do I care. A successful and sustainable football club to support is my interest. In the context of Southampton Football Club the business abilities of both men is so publicly available you don't need to meet them to understand them. Cortese is experienced and successful and has brought us huge entertainment and undreamed of success. With no experience whatever but with a clearly huge amount of gullability and nativity Le Tissier would have taken us to the sort of farcical and bankrupt depths that Pompey currently enjoy in no time flat. Cortese is the right man for this club at this time.

One last thought. Just because you 've been a loyal servant of your employer for 17 years doesn't give you the right to privileged position and regular freebies. It rarely happens in any other form of employment so why in football? Le Tissier got hugely well paid to do his job and on the back of that continues to be well paid - on all counts way above what fans get paid. I'm a loyal fan of the club of 45 years service. It's cost me a fortune and from the likes of me Le Tissier earned a fortune. I'm still paying - so can he!
you can look thru whatever tinted specs you like but not using local syndicated media to promote the club is absurd. And the next time you are rubbing your hands with glee over the "branding" development in africa, you may want to examine the exchange rate(s) and see how lucrative that will be... When a big local company would rather invest in corporate hospitality at the stoop than SMS then that said it all for me... marketing is very poor at the moment... banking guru does not equal footballing marketeer. NC needs someone in to help him, but he would fire him the same day after then person said "well obviously we need to handshake with all local media and cast our net wider". In case anyone hasn't noticed, the investment experts are starting to warn of the bursting of the football bubble in the UK....
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Bit of a silly statement. The last game was televised so the gate was reasonable considering. You've also clearly not been taking notice of developments in Africa and Japan as the club seeks to boost its international market exposure - individual TV deals in both markets alone have massive potential so we shouldn't be surprised that players from both were signed in the summer and all pretty good internationals into the bargain. And you don't get to be a successful individual in the hard nosed world of Swiss banking without having something exceptional about you. Cortese is in fact a very efficient and effective business man. With him at the helm Saints will never go into administration again. I have never met with either Le Tissier nor Cortese so I can't comment on their 'niceness' and nor do I care. A successful and sustainable football club to support is my interest. In the context of Southampton Football Club the business abilities of both men is so publicly available you don't need to meet them to understand them. Cortese is experienced and successful and has brought us huge entertainment and undreamed of success. With no experience whatever but with a clearly huge amount of gullability and nativity Le Tissier would have taken us to the sort of farcical and bankrupt depths that Pompey currently enjoy in no time flat. Cortese is the right man for this club at this time. One last thought. Just because you 've been a loyal servant of your employer for 17 years doesn't give you the right to privileged position and regular freebies. It rarely happens in any other form of employment so why in football? Le Tissier got hugely well paid to do his job and on the back of that continues to be well paid - on all counts way above what fans get paid. I'm a loyal fan of the club of 45 years service. It's cost me a fortune and from the likes of me Le Tissier earned a fortune. I'm still paying - so can he![/p][/quote]you can look thru whatever tinted specs you like but not using local syndicated media to promote the club is absurd. And the next time you are rubbing your hands with glee over the "branding" development in africa, you may want to examine the exchange rate(s) and see how lucrative that will be... When a big local company would rather invest in corporate hospitality at the stoop than SMS then that said it all for me... marketing is very poor at the moment... banking guru does not equal footballing marketeer. NC needs someone in to help him, but he would fire him the same day after then person said "well obviously we need to handshake with all local media and cast our net wider". In case anyone hasn't noticed, the investment experts are starting to warn of the bursting of the football bubble in the UK.... MGRA

3:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Linesman says...

st1halo wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team
Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on.

STID
If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'?

Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer?

If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement.

If you attend matches, you are supporting.

If you stay away, you are not supporting.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that.[/p][/quote]While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on. STID[/p][/quote]If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'? Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer? If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement. If you attend matches, you are supporting. If you stay away, you are not supporting. Linesman

3:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

wb2025 says...

There is no doubting the hard work Cortese has put into the club and without him we wouldn't be back in the premier league, but this arguement with Le Tiss has gone on for too long. Both have been loyal servants to the club in different ways, I'm very surprised to read that some so called Saints fans are posting negative comments about a player who is without doubt one of the finest to wear the famous shirt. I personally think its a shame that they dislike each other because a player like Le Tiss should be welcomed to St Marrys anytime he wants for the loyalty he showed to our great club.

It will be interesting in the coming weeks to see just how ruthless Cortese is, we've heard about the programme sellers getting fired etc, but how long will he wait if results don't start improving? Onward and upward to Upton Park this Saturday COYR
There is no doubting the hard work Cortese has put into the club and without him we wouldn't be back in the premier league, but this arguement with Le Tiss has gone on for too long. Both have been loyal servants to the club in different ways, I'm very surprised to read that some so called Saints fans are posting negative comments about a player who is without doubt one of the finest to wear the famous shirt. I personally think its a shame that they dislike each other because a player like Le Tiss should be welcomed to St Marrys anytime he wants for the loyalty he showed to our great club. It will be interesting in the coming weeks to see just how ruthless Cortese is, we've heard about the programme sellers getting fired etc, but how long will he wait if results don't start improving? Onward and upward to Upton Park this Saturday COYR wb2025

3:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

Linesman wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team
Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on.

STID
If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'?

Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer?

If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement.

If you attend matches, you are supporting.

If you stay away, you are not supporting.
I disagree. We have fans all over the world , as this forum will prove, that dont attend matches, does that mean they are no longer Saints supporters?
I withdrew my financial support but still listened or watched every kick , not an easy thing to do as a lifelong fan but a necessary one I felt at the time.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that.[/p][/quote]While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on. STID[/p][/quote]If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'? Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer? If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement. If you attend matches, you are supporting. If you stay away, you are not supporting.[/p][/quote]I disagree. We have fans all over the world , as this forum will prove, that dont attend matches, does that mean they are no longer Saints supporters? I withdrew my financial support but still listened or watched every kick , not an easy thing to do as a lifelong fan but a necessary one I felt at the time. STID st1halo

3:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement

s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
Spot on re questioning.

I have been asking Airbus and Boeing why they don't make the whole planes out of that indestructable 'black box' stuff - and asking the government why there is only one Monopolies Commission.

No answer yet, but will keep pressing.

I remember a similar silence ensued when I asked my teacher if quizzes are quizzical what are tests?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]Spot on re questioning. I have been asking Airbus and Boeing why they don't make the whole planes out of that indestructable 'black box' stuff - and asking the government why there is only one Monopolies Commission. No answer yet, but will keep pressing. I remember a similar silence ensued when I asked my teacher if quizzes are quizzical what are tests? Confucious

3:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

st1halo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.

My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team
Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on.

STID
If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'?

Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer?

If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement.

If you attend matches, you are supporting.

If you stay away, you are not supporting.
I disagree. We have fans all over the world , as this forum will prove, that dont attend matches, does that mean they are no longer Saints supporters?
I withdrew my financial support but still listened or watched every kick , not an easy thing to do as a lifelong fan but a necessary one I felt at the time.

STID
Dear old Linesman, I think he’s one of the Blue Few who has happened to spend his later years living in Southampton and has partially developed a Saints halo.
Be honest Linesman?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that.[/p][/quote]While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on. STID[/p][/quote]If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'? Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer? If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement. If you attend matches, you are supporting. If you stay away, you are not supporting.[/p][/quote]I disagree. We have fans all over the world , as this forum will prove, that dont attend matches, does that mean they are no longer Saints supporters? I withdrew my financial support but still listened or watched every kick , not an easy thing to do as a lifelong fan but a necessary one I felt at the time. STID[/p][/quote]Dear old Linesman, I think he’s one of the Blue Few who has happened to spend his later years living in Southampton and has partially developed a Saints halo. Be honest Linesman? Mush On The Beach

4:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

joelster says...

romsey saint wrote:
romsey saint wrote:
mmm sounds like our grapes to me
make that sour grapes
agree- move on
[quote][p][bold]romsey saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romsey saint[/bold] wrote: mmm sounds like our grapes to me[/p][/quote]make that sour grapes[/p][/quote]agree- move on joelster

4:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.
on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.
I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.[/p][/quote]on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.[/p][/quote]I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert. OSPREYSAINT

4:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintMax wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Advert in the Southern Echo 4 years ago.. Chairman required for nearly extinct football club, must be a nice bloke...

If thats his only flaw then he can run my club for the next decade and beyond!
There have been several similar adverts in The News, but all have fallen on deaf ears so far.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Advert in the Southern Echo 4 years ago.. Chairman required for nearly extinct football club, must be a nice bloke... If thats his only flaw then he can run my club for the next decade and beyond![/p][/quote]There have been several similar adverts in The News, but all have fallen on deaf ears so far. OSPREYSAINT

4:20pm Thu 18 Oct 12

joelster says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
So funny reading this. I couldnt disagree more.
As a business exec myself I can tell you- Cortese simply acts like an astute business man!
So when they come up against "Football Players" they will often come off brash, harsh and so on.
But I can tell you firsthand- we are far better having him run the club than most.
The problem with so much of football is that its run by footballers.
Men with true leadership skills will take us forward. Obviously I am not saying they shouldn't have a "love for the club" but I believe that Markus and Nicola started that way and Nicola will continue it!
So "yes," Matt is entitled to his opinion, but it would be better for the morale of the club to not "Smear" the chairman from his armchair.

Nicola is a leaders leader- he is the first man in a long time who is working on building every part of this club!

You only need to look back to the times of the "Dark Lord" and you will shiver...and appreciate with gratefulness what we have!!

The Future is Red and White!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]So funny reading this. I couldnt disagree more. As a business exec myself I can tell you- Cortese simply acts like an astute business man! So when they come up against "Football Players" they will often come off brash, harsh and so on. But I can tell you firsthand- we are far better having him run the club than most. The problem with so much of football is that its run by footballers. Men with true leadership skills will take us forward. Obviously I am not saying they shouldn't have a "love for the club" but I believe that Markus and Nicola started that way and Nicola will continue it! So "yes," Matt is entitled to his opinion, but it would be better for the morale of the club to not "Smear" the chairman from his armchair. Nicola is a leaders leader- he is the first man in a long time who is working on building every part of this club! You only need to look back to the times of the "Dark Lord" and you will shiver...and appreciate with gratefulness what we have!! The Future is Red and White!! joelster

4:29pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Costa Baz says...

Linesman wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years.

You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop.
Outrageous!!

Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment.
But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments.

If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on.
If they worked for 40 years then they get a discount card that they can use nd also they have free lunch provided by the firm, with free transport from their home. For this area, it is held at St Mary's.

As an ex-Sainsbury's employee, I know this to be a FACT.
I also am ex JS, thank God, (if people think Cortese is a bar steward then try working for some of the back stabbing managers in this company) and am aware of the 40 year dinner, but it is a one off "thank you" not an on going freebie, every 2 weeks.
Matt had his equivalent of this, known as a testimonial game, from which he pocketed several 1000's, so why should he then get a free seat for life as well?

Reference the discount card, unless things have changed since my leaving them, did they not put a financial limit on said card, reducing it's value to their poorly treated staff???
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." I know dozens of people who have worked for J. Sainsbury for up to 40 years. You may find this shocking, but they still have to pay for their shopping when they do their weekly shop. Outrageous!! Matt either needs to tell the whole story or just shut up. Revealing the truth, from his perspective, will at least allow the general public to understand why he is so often quoted as making this type of comment. But then he may also think that revealing the truth would show him in bad light, hence his all to often snide comments. If, as others suggest, the anger relates to the renting and "trashing" of a co-joined property, I would assume financial recompense was sought and received, and in all probability, a confidential clause inserted into the agreement, stopping full disclosure. If that is the case, then shut the feck up and move on.[/p][/quote]If they worked for 40 years then they get a discount card that they can use nd also they have free lunch provided by the firm, with free transport from their home. For this area, it is held at St Mary's. As an ex-Sainsbury's employee, I know this to be a FACT.[/p][/quote]I also am ex JS, thank God, (if people think Cortese is a bar steward then try working for some of the back stabbing managers in this company) and am aware of the 40 year dinner, but it is a one off "thank you" not an on going freebie, every 2 weeks. Matt had his equivalent of this, known as a testimonial game, from which he pocketed several 1000's, so why should he then get a free seat for life as well? Reference the discount card, unless things have changed since my leaving them, did they not put a financial limit on said card, reducing it's value to their poorly treated staff??? Costa Baz

4:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror.

It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration.

The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club.

Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple).
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror. It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration. The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club. Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple). Strasbourg Saint

4:51pm Thu 18 Oct 12

andysaint says...

Ignorant rude ill informed arrogant up is own arse.
Words ive heard used about Le Tiss from various sources - personally i dont believe all of it but theres no smoke without fire as certain posters like to say.
So im inclined to believe we should nt give Mr Le Tissiers playground politics much time.
Ignorant rude ill informed arrogant up is own arse. Words ive heard used about Le Tiss from various sources - personally i dont believe all of it but theres no smoke without fire as certain posters like to say. So im inclined to believe we should nt give Mr Le Tissiers playground politics much time. andysaint

4:52pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

Cortese is a banker
Cortese is a banker Abbey Saint

5:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement


s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
Plenty of balance in your assessment Seed. It’s tough to really get inside the persona of Cortese when he plays the Abramovich card of secrecy. Keep the winning formula going at our football club and I guess we will all have to show out respects, however begrudgingly.
It's not respect that bothers me, that's down to the individual and I always respect someone who delivers be they cleaner or CEO.

I'm referring to accountability. If someone isn't accountable or controls the whole think secretively then you can end up in a right royal mess - Nick Lesson brought down Barings Bank because he controlled the front office and the back office and therefore he 'monitored' or was accountable to himself and no one picked up on the situation until it was way too late.

Yes NC has handled a few things badly, but often the decision making process was logical, it was the implimentation that ruffled feathers creating enemies and that can be damaging to him and the club. It has also led to a number of scurrilous accusations aimed at him which I'm sure are without any foundation - but if you cloak everything in a veil of secrecy that's what happens.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]Plenty of balance in your assessment Seed. It’s tough to really get inside the persona of Cortese when he plays the Abramovich card of secrecy. Keep the winning formula going at our football club and I guess we will all have to show out respects, however begrudgingly.[/p][/quote]It's not respect that bothers me, that's down to the individual and I always respect someone who delivers be they cleaner or CEO. I'm referring to accountability. If someone isn't accountable or controls the whole think secretively then you can end up in a right royal mess - Nick Lesson brought down Barings Bank because he controlled the front office and the back office and therefore he 'monitored' or was accountable to himself and no one picked up on the situation until it was way too late. Yes NC has handled a few things badly, but often the decision making process was logical, it was the implimentation that ruffled feathers creating enemies and that can be damaging to him and the club. It has also led to a number of scurrilous accusations aimed at him which I'm sure are without any foundation - but if you cloak everything in a veil of secrecy that's what happens. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

5:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement


s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID[/p][/quote]That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different? Seedhouse the Unrepentant

5:49pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.
on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.
I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert.
you really are a muppet. Suffice to say I KNOW what I am talking about on certain subjects rather than just stating some vacuous opinion.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.[/p][/quote]on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.[/p][/quote]I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert.[/p][/quote]you really are a muppet. Suffice to say I KNOW what I am talking about on certain subjects rather than just stating some vacuous opinion. MGRA

5:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Scruffygirl94 says...

I am certainly not taking anyone's side here as I am well aware I don't know any facts and nor do the rest of us. The only comment I will make is that whilst I think the world of MLT, you can't escape the fact that Cortese has performed wonders at this club and I will never forget the image of him crying at the JPT final plus coming over very emotional in a pre-season speech last season! In my book, Cortese obviously thinks alot of Southampton Football Club and as far as I am concerned that's enough to earn my total respect!
I am certainly not taking anyone's side here as I am well aware I don't know any facts and nor do the rest of us. The only comment I will make is that whilst I think the world of MLT, you can't escape the fact that Cortese has performed wonders at this club and I will never forget the image of him crying at the JPT final plus coming over very emotional in a pre-season speech last season! In my book, Cortese obviously thinks alot of Southampton Football Club and as far as I am concerned that's enough to earn my total respect! Scruffygirl94

5:52pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror.

It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration.

The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club.

Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple).
Now that made me giggle. In fact I giggled like a good giggler, giggling.

But all this is completely spoiled when one is caused by you to wonder what parts of all this giggle/giggled/giggl
er/gigglingstuff are past and present participles - and then consider all the simple participles and any potentially perfect ones to boot.

I will always be grateful to you Stras for putting me right for all time on the less/fewer thing, but come on mate, lay off the participles.

If, like me, you had ever been treated for a painful dangling participle, I think you'd be fewer likely to keep going on about them now.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror. It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration. The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club. Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple).[/p][/quote]Now that made me giggle. In fact I giggled like a good giggler, giggling. But all this is completely spoiled when one is caused by you to wonder what parts of all this giggle/giggled/giggl er/gigglingstuff are past and present participles - and then consider all the simple participles and any potentially perfect ones to boot. I will always be grateful to you Stras for putting me right for all time on the less/fewer thing, but come on mate, lay off the participles. If, like me, you had ever been treated for a painful dangling participle, I think you'd be fewer likely to keep going on about them now. Confucious

5:56pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement



s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID[/p][/quote]That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?[/p][/quote]they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0) MGRA

6:01pm Thu 18 Oct 12

st1halo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement



s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
I think you're right in your assessment that he opens hmself up to criticism by being secretive (if that's the right word to use?)
He is certainly not doing himself any favours in the way he's handling some things. Perhaps he should acquire a PR rep or sack the one he has, if indeed he has one. It may be that his people skills are just not his forte. On the other hand it could be the pressure of running the business in the public eye, certainly not easy when you know every decision you take is likely to be questioned, especally given the fact that he comes from a secretive working environment.
All I know is he is producing the results, he is talking the talk and walking the walk at the present time. His interview in the Telegraph earlier in the year demonstrated his passion and ambition for the club. If he succeeds then glory awaits us al!!!
It is not for me to tell him how to run his business and I would't expect him to tell me how to run mine.


STID
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID[/p][/quote]That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?[/p][/quote]I think you're right in your assessment that he opens hmself up to criticism by being secretive (if that's the right word to use?) He is certainly not doing himself any favours in the way he's handling some things. Perhaps he should acquire a PR rep or sack the one he has, if indeed he has one. It may be that his people skills are just not his forte. On the other hand it could be the pressure of running the business in the public eye, certainly not easy when you know every decision you take is likely to be questioned, especally given the fact that he comes from a secretive working environment. All I know is he is producing the results, he is talking the talk and walking the walk at the present time. His interview in the Telegraph earlier in the year demonstrated his passion and ambition for the club. If he succeeds then glory awaits us al!!! It is not for me to tell him how to run his business and I would't expect him to tell me how to run mine. STID st1halo

6:05pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Allotment man 66 says...

Winch,Winch,Winch,.
That's all Mr Le Tissier does. It's about time Mr Le Tissier stopped his winching and got OFF Nicole Cortese's back and give the man the respect he deserves, after all said and done he is the Chairman of the club.and he is looking after the club and supporters interests
The trouble is that Mr Le Tissier has a BIG MOUTH and it runs away with him.

OK Mr Le Tissier has done good for the club, but got paid to do that, that was his job, it don't give him the right to slag off the club personal.

So Mr Le Tissier button your lip.

You are a has been, you are in the pass, so put a sock in it...
Winch,Winch,Winch,. That's all Mr Le Tissier does. It's about time Mr Le Tissier stopped his winching and got OFF Nicole Cortese's back and give the man the respect he deserves, after all said and done he is the Chairman of the club.and he is looking after the club and supporters interests The trouble is that Mr Le Tissier has a BIG MOUTH and it runs away with him. OK Mr Le Tissier has done good for the club, but got paid to do that, that was his job, it don't give him the right to slag off the club personal. So Mr Le Tissier button your lip. You are a has been, you are in the pass, so put a sock in it... Allotment man 66

6:05pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
MGRA wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste.

You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.
its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think !
Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.
on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.
I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert.
you really are a muppet. Suffice to say I KNOW what I am talking about on certain subjects rather than just stating some vacuous opinion.
I am at a disadvantage here because I haven't a clue what you are talking about because apart from some inuendo it doesn't actually say anything at all.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I think Le Tiss is still upset that a lot of his mates from his glory days at Saints have been kicked off the Southampton gravy train, and they probably weren't done so in a particularly ceremonious way. Cortese wanted a clean break from past pratices and brought in a new era without free tickets and free bars for past players and this has left a bit of a sour taste. You can argue about whether he went too far with this, but something had to be done to send out a signal that things were going to be different. We couldn't carry on leaching money like we did under previous regimes.[/p][/quote]its not a "gravy train". Ambassadors for a club like Saints are worth their weight in gold.Everyone says NC is such a great businessman, well sorry but he does not use the syndicated press to promote the club and community P.R. is poor. The result is that SMS was not full for the last home game and will not be for "silver" games. He has been good for the club overall, of that there is no doubt, but a sound football business brain he clearly has not and failure to promote the club properly has/is/will cost us revenue. Regards two sides to the story... no sides of any story has been aired but reading inbetween the lines on this does make me think ![/p][/quote]Your problem is misreading between the lines and not knowing the real facts you have to form an opinion that is quite frankly uninformed.[/p][/quote]on the contrary. You know nothing about my links to SFC.... I am much more informed that your goodself.... Those who were quick enough 18 months ago before the echo removed a post of mine will know exactly what I am talking about and so the reality is you could not be more incorrect. Oh and with hindsight, it was correct of the echo to remove my disclosure and remis of me to have actually posted it.[/p][/quote]I must have missed that pearl of wisdom, please repeat what you said, and also reveal exactly what your connection with the club is so that it will give credence to what you said, Rupert.[/p][/quote]you really are a muppet. Suffice to say I KNOW what I am talking about on certain subjects rather than just stating some vacuous opinion.[/p][/quote]I am at a disadvantage here because I haven't a clue what you are talking about because apart from some inuendo it doesn't actually say anything at all. OSPREYSAINT

6:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

PST are the front runners for Poopey takeover it has been announced, good luck to them with that, I hope it will put an end to the fiasco.
PST are the front runners for Poopey takeover it has been announced, good luck to them with that, I hope it will put an end to the fiasco. OSPREYSAINT

6:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I notice that before taking on the job of running the Saints, NC was an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva managing the finances of billionaires, why would he leave that to run a football club for a bunch of ingrates?
I notice that before taking on the job of running the Saints, NC was an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva managing the finances of billionaires, why would he leave that to run a football club for a bunch of ingrates? OSPREYSAINT

6:23pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
Cortese is a banker
Was I think, not is.
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: Cortese is a banker[/p][/quote]Was I think, not is. OSPREYSAINT

6:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
PST are the front runners for Poopey takeover it has been announced, good luck to them with that, I hope it will put an end to the fiasco.
I think their troubles are just about to start.old chanrai will want some recompence so expect some wrangling and ducking and diving from him and his cohorts.and as a lot of the trusts money is from fans pledges (it's all well and good making promises but It's time to cough up).it will be interesting how many come up with the cash.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: PST are the front runners for Poopey takeover it has been announced, good luck to them with that, I hope it will put an end to the fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think their troubles are just about to start.old chanrai will want some recompence so expect some wrangling and ducking and diving from him and his cohorts.and as a lot of the trusts money is from fans pledges (it's all well and good making promises but It's time to cough up).it will be interesting how many come up with the cash. angus mc coatup

6:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement




s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)
the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim .
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID[/p][/quote]That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?[/p][/quote]they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)[/p][/quote]the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim . slugger

6:44pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Velleity says...

A couple of points:

1. Why do people wash their dirty laundry in public? I have much more respect for people who keep private matters private than those who use the media to argue (and I don't care who it is, it's not just MLT, I include politicians and ex-girlfriends, etc in this).

2. If NC really is picking the team rather than NA, he's made a pretty good fist of the job for the past couple of years so perhaps we should let him carry on.

3. I said "a couple" so why are you reading this far?
A couple of points: 1. Why do people wash their dirty laundry in public? I have much more respect for people who keep private matters private than those who use the media to argue (and I don't care who it is, it's not just MLT, I include politicians and ex-girlfriends, etc in this). 2. If NC really is picking the team rather than NA, he's made a pretty good fist of the job for the past couple of years so perhaps we should let him carry on. 3. I said "a couple" so why are you reading this far? Velleity

6:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club. ghk230473

6:53pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Velleity wrote:
A couple of points:

1. Why do people wash their dirty laundry in public? I have much more respect for people who keep private matters private than those who use the media to argue (and I don't care who it is, it's not just MLT, I include politicians and ex-girlfriends, etc in this).

2. If NC really is picking the team rather than NA, he's made a pretty good fist of the job for the past couple of years so perhaps we should let him carry on.

3. I said "a couple" so why are you reading this far?
I got really interested then,I thought that said a couple of pints. I agree with your two points especially 2. does anybody really believe adkins would put up with cortese poking his nose into who does or dosen't play.I think nigel adkins has a bit more about him then that.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: A couple of points: 1. Why do people wash their dirty laundry in public? I have much more respect for people who keep private matters private than those who use the media to argue (and I don't care who it is, it's not just MLT, I include politicians and ex-girlfriends, etc in this). 2. If NC really is picking the team rather than NA, he's made a pretty good fist of the job for the past couple of years so perhaps we should let him carry on. 3. I said "a couple" so why are you reading this far?[/p][/quote]I got really interested then,I thought that said a couple of pints. I agree with your two points especially 2. does anybody really believe adkins would put up with cortese poking his nose into who does or dosen't play.I think nigel adkins has a bit more about him then that. angus mc coatup

7:02pm Thu 18 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

slugger wrote:
MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID
That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)
the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim .
slugger have you learnt nothing? people like mgra and SaintsBTGOG know everything and like to the same things over and over again and by doing this it makes it FACT! it dosent matter how many real facts you throw back at them or how many times you ask them to answer the questions they ask (with facts in them) they always know the `truth` though never reveal where they get their info from!
these people cant be argued with, we all know the type, they have an opinion on everything and know little about that! oh and if youve been to 10 games they have been to 20! if you own your own business, they own a multi national corp!
i think all saints fans will agree that NC hasnt always done everything in the right manner, however well intentioned, but will also agree that he has the good of the club at heart.problem is these people find fault in everyone and will then use anything bad they did as a stick to beat them with!
just another happy clappy sheep baaa baaa baaa. ffs
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.[/p][/quote]I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID[/p][/quote]That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?[/p][/quote]they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)[/p][/quote]the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim .[/p][/quote]slugger have you learnt nothing? people like mgra and SaintsBTGOG know everything and like to the same things over and over again and by doing this it makes it FACT! it dosent matter how many real facts you throw back at them or how many times you ask them to answer the questions they ask (with facts in them) they always know the `truth` though never reveal where they get their info from! these people cant be argued with, we all know the type, they have an opinion on everything and know little about that! oh and if youve been to 10 games they have been to 20! if you own your own business, they own a multi national corp! i think all saints fans will agree that NC hasnt always done everything in the right manner, however well intentioned, but will also agree that he has the good of the club at heart.problem is these people find fault in everyone and will then use anything bad they did as a stick to beat them with! just another happy clappy sheep baaa baaa baaa. ffs saintshorse101

7:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Anders Svennson on Sky TV praising the Club up to the hilt, that's what we want to hear from one of our old boys.
Anders Svennson on Sky TV praising the Club up to the hilt, that's what we want to hear from one of our old boys. OSPREYSAINT

7:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ? slugger

7:23pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season ghk230473

7:33pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Non story...the rift between Matt and NC is regurgitated old news.
Non story...the rift between Matt and NC is regurgitated old news. Baddesley Bill

7:38pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I find a bloke in a clown suit funny but I wouldn't disrespect him for that, you have a strange sense of humour.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I find a bloke in a clown suit funny but I wouldn't disrespect him for that, you have a strange sense of humour. OSPREYSAINT

7:41pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people' ghk230473

7:51pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up? OSPREYSAINT

7:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
I'm guessing NC's book would be less "winning friends"...more "how to get ahead". Like it or not..he is at the helm and as long as the ship sails in the right direction...he has the majority support from true supporters.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]I'm guessing NC's book would be less "winning friends"...more "how to get ahead". Like it or not..he is at the helm and as long as the ship sails in the right direction...he has the majority support from true supporters. Baddesley Bill

7:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck. OSPREYSAINT

7:59pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister! ghk230473

8:07pm Thu 18 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon. costa gaz

8:08pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.[/p][/quote]Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact ghk230473

8:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
I'm guessing NC's book would be less "winning friends"...more "how to get ahead". Like it or not..he is at the helm and as long as the ship sails in the right direction...he has the majority support from true supporters.
Not majority me old bone china, looks 50 50 split on here to me.
A book titled how to get a head also not quite relevant......... yet or possibly ever.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]I'm guessing NC's book would be less "winning friends"...more "how to get ahead". Like it or not..he is at the helm and as long as the ship sails in the right direction...he has the majority support from true supporters.[/p][/quote]Not majority me old bone china, looks 50 50 split on here to me. A book titled how to get a head also not quite relevant......... yet or possibly ever. ghk230473

8:15pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact
Lucky you.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.[/p][/quote]Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact[/p][/quote]Lucky you. OSPREYSAINT

8:15pm Thu 18 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

I am confused at why some posters on here keep repeating that Cortese is unpopular.
Not with me he isn't.
Not with most of the blokes I talk to in the pub.
Not with most of the blokes who sit near me in the ground.
He appears to be unpopular with people who find fault with everyone and anyone who dares to disagree with them.
Matt was a legend as a player.
I met him several times in town on nights out and he was a bit arrogant at times but I forgave him that because it aint easy being a living legend.
This was not an interview , a conversation reported by somebody who wants a headline and a story.
As for all these people who are executives of multi-national companies on here. Really?
I am a Saints fan and supporter and a STH.
Have been for quite a long time.
Where is theborer now, because I need to read it here first!
I am confused at why some posters on here keep repeating that Cortese is unpopular. Not with me he isn't. Not with most of the blokes I talk to in the pub. Not with most of the blokes who sit near me in the ground. He appears to be unpopular with people who find fault with everyone and anyone who dares to disagree with them. Matt was a legend as a player. I met him several times in town on nights out and he was a bit arrogant at times but I forgave him that because it aint easy being a living legend. This was not an interview , a conversation reported by somebody who wants a headline and a story. As for all these people who are executives of multi-national companies on here. Really? I am a Saints fan and supporter and a STH. Have been for quite a long time. Where is theborer now, because I need to read it here first! dadofmy3sons

8:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact
Lucky you.
Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first,
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.[/p][/quote]Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact[/p][/quote]Lucky you.[/p][/quote]Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first, OSPREYSAINT

8:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

costa gaz wrote:
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
I don't think I've read any coment having a pop at MLT. He knows he has the aduration of the fans that saw him grace the field.
NC was not one of those fans...he is simply the bloke who saw a vision to make SFC top flight again.
They both have my sincere thanks for what they have done. If they choose not to like each other...it's no skin off of my nose.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.[/p][/quote]I don't think I've read any coment having a pop at MLT. He knows he has the aduration of the fans that saw him grace the field. NC was not one of those fans...he is simply the bloke who saw a vision to make SFC top flight again. They both have my sincere thanks for what they have done. If they choose not to like each other...it's no skin off of my nose. Baddesley Bill

8:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA says...

costa gaz wrote:
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-)
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.[/p][/quote]he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans [ see what I did there ] , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-) MGRA

8:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over. Tirau Dan

8:22pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact
Lucky you.
Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first,
Oh I do hope so...... I really do
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.[/p][/quote]Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact[/p][/quote]Lucky you.[/p][/quote]Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first,[/p][/quote]Oh I do hope so...... I really do ghk230473

8:27pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up? OSPREYSAINT

8:30pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them. OSPREYSAINT

8:31pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely ghk230473

8:32pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others.
Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals.
Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess.
And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.
why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?
Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny.
Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose?
I've been to 3 home games this season
I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.
Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact
Lucky you.
Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first,
Oh I do hope so...... I really do
If you want to see a clown that isn't funny, have a look in the mirror.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Le god is the fans voted greatest ever saints player, all he has done is stated an opinion which is shared by others. Schwi has played his part in our return to top flight football but has never warmed himself with the fans. Le god has proved himself with his loyalty to Southampton Fc and on the way given the fans a player to be proud of with his sublime skill and great goals. Schwi's work is still on going. At present I think he has missed a trick with ticket pricing and charges as the stadium has yet to be sold out. I think already a few fans are voting with their feet. Corporate sales are a joke with only 2 boxes occupied. Where schwi's legacy is going to lie is any ones guess. And a quick note........ Without the fans there is no club! Without the money men there is no premier league football but still a club.[/p][/quote]why be so disrespectful about the chairman of the club you claim to support ? .......... and as for your "quick note" , why get so upset when we lose then ? .............. how many games (saints) have you been to this season ?[/p][/quote]Apologies but I find a bloke in Cuban heels funny. Dont understand your question of getting upset when we lose? I've been to 3 home games this season[/p][/quote]I bet you missed Aston Villa, if that is the case don't go to any more, you are bad luck.[/p][/quote]Sorry to p155 on your parade but I was at villa game and saw ricky's pen at the end. Fact[/p][/quote]Lucky you.[/p][/quote]Come to think of it you could have been the tw@ in front of me that stood up and blocked my view of Rickies first,[/p][/quote]Oh I do hope so...... I really do[/p][/quote]If you want to see a clown that isn't funny, have a look in the mirror. OSPREYSAINT

8:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely
OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely[/p][/quote]OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you. OSPREYSAINT

8:36pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely
OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.
You have to say pretty pretty please with a cherry on top
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely[/p][/quote]OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.[/p][/quote]You have to say pretty pretty please with a cherry on top ghk230473

8:41pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely
OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.
Awfully sorry, that should be explanation, a stray "n" crept in, anyway carry on, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely[/p][/quote]OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.[/p][/quote]Awfully sorry, that should be explanation, a stray "n" crept in, anyway carry on, thank you. OSPREYSAINT

8:41pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely
OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.
You have to say pretty pretty please with a cherry on top
You lied.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]I'll answer question but you have to ask me nicely[/p][/quote]OK Please tell us why you want to stir things up, we would be ever so grateful for a full and explicit explanantion, thank you.[/p][/quote]You have to say pretty pretty please with a cherry on top[/p][/quote]You lied. OSPREYSAINT

8:45pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

well I don't know cortese personally but I don't dislike him.as far as I can see the liebherr family have bascally given him total control of all things saints.so he lives or dies on the progress of the club.I don't agee with every decision he makes but who can argue with the results so far.le tiss is entitled to his say just like we all are and it's patently obvious they hate each other(so what).they aint ever going to get along.as I can't influence anything other than watching and supporting thats what i'll continue to do, just like le tiss does. you don't have like the man after all it aint a popularity contest it's about pushing the club foreward and as long as thats happening then I'm a "happy clappy. sheep"

baaaaah!!

remember you flocked together on here first.
well I don't know cortese personally but I don't dislike him.as far as I can see the liebherr family have bascally given him total control of all things saints.so he lives or dies on the progress of the club.I don't agee with every decision he makes but who can argue with the results so far.le tiss is entitled to his say just like we all are and it's patently obvious they hate each other(so what).they aint ever going to get along.as I can't influence anything other than watching and supporting thats what i'll continue to do, just like le tiss does. you don't have like the man after all it aint a popularity contest it's about pushing the club foreward and as long as thats happening then I'm a "happy clappy. sheep" baaaaah!! remember you flocked together on here first. angus mc coatup

8:46pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

MGRA wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-)
We all love Matt fo his loyalty..his match changing goals..and his ability to keep us in the big league...despite the fact that, as a Club, we were punching above our weight.
NC saw a route (via Markus) to save us from total oblivion and has a vision to see us competing at the very top.
Fickle fans seem to remember the fantastic goals from the past...but forget how close we were to having no Club to support.
ANother (ghk)...is just on the wind up.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.[/p][/quote]he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans [ see what I did there ] , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-)[/p][/quote]We all love Matt fo his loyalty..his match changing goals..and his ability to keep us in the big league...despite the fact that, as a Club, we were punching above our weight. NC saw a route (via Markus) to save us from total oblivion and has a vision to see us competing at the very top. Fickle fans seem to remember the fantastic goals from the past...but forget how close we were to having no Club to support. ANother (ghk)...is just on the wind up. Baddesley Bill

9:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels thomasupton

9:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

MGRA wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-)
I haven't dissed MLT at all, he is still a hero for what he did in the past, which makes it all the more galling, why he is getting negatively involved with this rhetoric which isn't doing the club any good at all. I listen to people with football experience and none of them are trying to wreck the football club that I support and the only ones with a bad word about NC appear to be posting on Internet chat sites. What is your own agenda in the matter, if you have any dirt on NC you may as well spill it, you can't get done for libel, if it is true.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.[/p][/quote]he saved the club from oblivion for a decade and its not just "his" opinion... those who diss MLT have simply lost their sole for the club. "real" , "true" , saints fans [ see what I did there ] , listen to people with football experience and don't just fall at the feet of investment bankers..... ;-)[/p][/quote]I haven't dissed MLT at all, he is still a hero for what he did in the past, which makes it all the more galling, why he is getting negatively involved with this rhetoric which isn't doing the club any good at all. I listen to people with football experience and none of them are trying to wreck the football club that I support and the only ones with a bad word about NC appear to be posting on Internet chat sites. What is your own agenda in the matter, if you have any dirt on NC you may as well spill it, you can't get done for libel, if it is true. OSPREYSAINT

9:01pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels[/p][/quote]Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here. OSPREYSAINT

9:05pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.
I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels[/p][/quote]Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.[/p][/quote]I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt. thomasupton

9:06pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.
"Send in the Clowns" I meant, there ought to be clowns, well maybe next year.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels[/p][/quote]Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.[/p][/quote]"Send in the Clowns" I meant, there ought to be clowns, well maybe next year. OSPREYSAINT

9:07pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.
I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt.
Bar none.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels[/p][/quote]Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.[/p][/quote]I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt.[/p][/quote]Bar none. OSPREYSAINT

9:09pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans?
For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)?
Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'
He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?
Are you for real?
I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister!
I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?
Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels
Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.
I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt.
That is a fact if I'm not to be mistaken!
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just a thought after all schwi has done why is he so unpopular among some fans? For an intelligent business man why has he stupidly come in and upset the greatest player in our history (voted by the fans)? Who is going to buy his book coming out for Xmas titled 'how to win friends and influence people'[/p][/quote]He isn't and hasn't, why are are so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I don't find clowns funny, I think they're a bit sinister![/p][/quote]I am for real and you didn't answer the question, why are you so keen to stir it up?[/p][/quote]Have to agree clowns can be quite sinister. There was a clown in one of Stephen Kings novels[/p][/quote]Here comes another one, did someone sing "Bring on the Clowns? Don't bother they are here.[/p][/quote]I'd back Matt all the way, best player and most loyal who has ever put on a Saints shirt.[/p][/quote]That is a fact if I'm not to be mistaken! ghk230473

9:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club. thomasupton

9:17pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club. thomasupton

9:19pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

MLT was undoubtedly one of our alltime greats ............ but ......... he doesn't happen to be in control of the club that i support ......... that being the case i shall continue to support nicola to the hilt ..... COYR !
MLT was undoubtedly one of our alltime greats ............ but ......... he doesn't happen to be in control of the club that i support ......... that being the case i shall continue to support nicola to the hilt ..... COYR ! slugger

9:21pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.[/p][/quote]you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting... Tirau Dan

9:23pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
our club!
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]our club! angus mc coatup

9:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours . slugger

9:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings. ghk230473

9:28pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping thomasupton

9:28pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping thomasupton

9:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...
The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.[/p][/quote]you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...[/p][/quote]The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop. Baddesley Bill

9:38pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O) Baddesley Bill

9:40pm Thu 18 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)
How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)[/p][/quote]How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D ghk230473

9:41pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...
The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.
I thought Simon was better than this Bill
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.[/p][/quote]you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...[/p][/quote]The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.[/p][/quote]I thought Simon was better than this Bill Tirau Dan

9:42pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
lol ....i'd be proud too , it's called supporting .
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping[/p][/quote]lol ....i'd be proud too , it's called supporting . slugger

9:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)
How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D
Indeed...he got me the tickets to Le Mans. Do you have a life outside petty wind ups?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)[/p][/quote]How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D[/p][/quote]Indeed...he got me the tickets to Le Mans. Do you have a life outside petty wind ups? Baddesley Bill

9:44pm Thu 18 Oct 12

joelster says...

costa gaz wrote:
MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk.
This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times)
How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me.
It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we.
JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.
See what you are doing now is justifying him on some "Stat from the past" and though that might make good argument at some "should we keep playing our old players?" Tribunal, this is real life. How much he earned in relation to others in not a reason for him to be able to have a free ticket.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: MLT never earned more than 4k /wk at Saints whilst the like of Haslan Kachoul was on £26,000/wk. This, along with the loyalty he showed and the glorious performances he gave us entitles him to a free ticket or 2 at the club he served (and saved many times) How any saints fan can have a pop at possibly our greatest ever player is beyond me. It's only his opinion (and he has probably been misquoted) and we are all entitled to that aren't we. JCL's who think that NC is the new messiah, be prepared for a reality check real soon.[/p][/quote]See what you are doing now is justifying him on some "Stat from the past" and though that might make good argument at some "should we keep playing our old players?" Tribunal, this is real life. How much he earned in relation to others in not a reason for him to be able to have a free ticket. joelster

9:47pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...
The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.
I thought Simon was better than this Bill
He is...I questioned him on his "scoop". He replied that he didnt write the headline. Suggested to me that he wasn't totally comfortable with the story. We all gotta make a living though.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.[/p][/quote]you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...[/p][/quote]The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.[/p][/quote]I thought Simon was better than this Bill[/p][/quote]He is...I questioned him on his "scoop". He replied that he didnt write the headline. Suggested to me that he wasn't totally comfortable with the story. We all gotta make a living though. Baddesley Bill

9:49pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins....
rant over.
I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.
you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...
The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.
I thought Simon was better than this Bill
He is...I questioned him on his "scoop". He replied that he didnt write the headline. Suggested to me that he wasn't totally comfortable with the story. We all gotta make a living though.
Cheers Bill.. Mr Murray at the centre of it again.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: sorry but threads like this disgust me.. sh1tstirring have a go stories like this one are designed to bring out the dissenters and this one has worked.. sane fans will read one or two posts if any and immediately see who the real fans are and which ones just post here on the wind up.. the ones the go to games and swear their heads off at their team for 90 mins.... rant over.[/p][/quote]I don't swear, I don't even shout a lot, if I started singing the stadium would empty fairly quickly, but I am there in full regalia, no one could mistake my support for them.[/p][/quote]you know the ones I mean though Osprey... always something to moan and swear about in football and in life. I just think the Echo should be above running spiels and should demand MLT put up or shut up. Thats reporting...[/p][/quote]The story was written by Simon Peach (Saints fan and sports writer) for Teamtalk after he cornered MLT during a golf day. He freely admitted to me on twitter that this was no scoop.[/p][/quote]I thought Simon was better than this Bill[/p][/quote]He is...I questioned him on his "scoop". He replied that he didnt write the headline. Suggested to me that he wasn't totally comfortable with the story. We all gotta make a living though.[/p][/quote]Cheers Bill.. Mr Murray at the centre of it again. Tirau Dan

9:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Jameski says...

slugger says...
6:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement





s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)
the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim ."

They are banned as press, they have to buy tickets to get into the ground
slugger says... 6:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12 MGRA wrote: Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: st1halo wrote: Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late. I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different? they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0) the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim ." They are banned as press, they have to buy tickets to get into the ground Jameski

9:56pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Jameski says...

Off topic but i have this really annoying pair of old guys sat behind me who spend the whole game talking about how Fonte is "rubbish" and how he concedes every goal for us and its all his fault. Its amazing how that can actually last for 90 mins especially since he is the only culprit in their opinions.
Wish they would shut the f*ck up and just enjoy the game at least sometimes.
They dont even cheer when we score FFS
Off topic but i have this really annoying pair of old guys sat behind me who spend the whole game talking about how Fonte is "rubbish" and how he concedes every goal for us and its all his fault. Its amazing how that can actually last for 90 mins especially since he is the only culprit in their opinions. Wish they would shut the f*ck up and just enjoy the game at least sometimes. They dont even cheer when we score FFS Jameski

9:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

Jameski wrote:
slugger says...
6:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

MGRA wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST.

I try and hold a balanced view in life.

Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many.

I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement






s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don".

On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way.

It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late.
I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride.
I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves

STID
That appears to be the case.

I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing.

He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different?
they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0)
the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim ."

They are banned as press, they have to buy tickets to get into the ground
they may well not be invited ..... but they're not banned .
[quote][p][bold]Jameski[/bold] wrote: slugger says... 6:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12 MGRA wrote: Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: st1halo wrote: Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: We are in danger of becoming split over NC like the skunts are over the PST. I try and hold a balanced view in life. Was NC instrumental in saving our club from oblivion? Without a doubt. Has he made much needed changes? Many. I have never met him. I do know several people who report/reported directly to him and several senior business people who have had dealings with him. It is true to say that none speak well of him. What surprises me is that the criticism is all the same - that he is indecisive, changes his mind and denies previous statements/agreement s. This is the exact opposite to what I would have expected from his image as 'The Don". On balance I am pro NC and do worry that if he left the Liebherrs would quickly follow. However, I look at Pompey and say how obvious their demise was, yet none questioned at the time. The whole horrible Jimmy Savile thing now looks so blatent it's unbelievable, but no one questioned, at least not in a meaningful way. It is right to question. Questioning reveals both good and bad things before it's too late. I agree. Past experience and other clubs predicaments should make us vigilant as to what can happen if we blindly go along for the ride. I am pro NC, I have not seen any evdence that he picks teams or any of the other rumours that seem rife so I base my support on the results of the achievement of the club in a financially sound manner and to date, they speak for themselves STID That appears to be the case. I wish he would engage with the local community more. He could invite one or two senior business people as his guests from time to time, that might help with sales of boxes. He could attend the odd event run to support charities etc where all the local business leaders tend to gather. He could wander into his corporate suites occasionally to see how customers are doing. He used to have dinner with a few fans draw from 'the hat' every now and then. I thought that was a great idea and certainly the majority of feedback from those attending was positive. I haven't heard of one of these for a very long time - does anyone know different? they won't sell the boxes without decent marketing and a "value" attached to them. They have not even bothered to try to market them. They just expected them to fill up once we got back into the prem..... I spoke to two former box holders who will not be returning and their reasons were the same.... There is a total no brainer scheme they could run to promote them, Lease one to the echo and get the echo to fill it with their readers by way of a competitions... etc etc... oh no hang on a minute.... echo is banned.... scratch that idea.... it would hugely benefit both SMS and the echo but hey lets no let sound business revenue sense get in the way of personal grudges. ;0) the echo are not banned from sms , you don't know as much as you claim ." They are banned as press, they have to buy tickets to get into the ground[/p][/quote]they may well not be invited ..... but they're not banned . slugger

9:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
What makes it your club?
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]What makes it your club? thomasupton

10:04pm Thu 18 Oct 12

randre says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Good on Matt.

Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak.

I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like.

Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins


Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins

Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ?

Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ?

Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :)

Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.
You are asking a lot of questions that nobody here can answer, simply because we don't know. But you seem to have a good clue about it, please enlighten us with good hard facts rather than a set of silly questions that nobody can answer... Oh except Sunseeker, they are a sponsor because they want to increase their global brand, they can do that as a sponsor of saints whilst we are in the EPL, if we were in the championship they probably wouldn't want to know... Simple really!

Have you got the answers to the other questions you seem to want to know?
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Good on Matt. Cortese is an out of control autocratic nutjob. A horrible sad vindictive control freak. I dont see why Matt shouldnt comment considering the grief Cortese has directed at him and his friends. Maybe some of the happy clapper fans will realise exactly what Cortese is like. Whose the manager these days anyway ? Cortese or Adkins Whose responsible for what players he wants to bring in ? Cortese or Adkins Why did Cortese decide Sharp wasnt part of this seasons plans ? Is it right that 'all' Cortese's personal bills are paid by SFC ? Why are sunseeker a sponsor ? :) Im more than amazed that Adkins can work with Cortese.[/p][/quote]You are asking a lot of questions that nobody here can answer, simply because we don't know. But you seem to have a good clue about it, please enlighten us with good hard facts rather than a set of silly questions that nobody can answer... Oh except Sunseeker, they are a sponsor because they want to increase their global brand, they can do that as a sponsor of saints whilst we are in the EPL, if we were in the championship they probably wouldn't want to know... Simple really! Have you got the answers to the other questions you seem to want to know? randre

10:08pm Thu 18 Oct 12

randre says...

saintand266 wrote:
Le god is entitled to his opinion just like we are on here. I personally prefer to have someone ruthless in charge of my beloved saints. I would hate us to end up where we were with lower than lowe in charge. I imagine if NC was a kind lovely sweet gentleman some people would still knock him for that . Also why are people still questioning why we have the worlds most premier builders of luxury boats as a sponsor ? Who should we have instead ? Poundland would that be more acceptable to you ?
Lol, or job sh1te, like the blue few... Oh the shame of having such a high end sponsor.
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote: Le god is entitled to his opinion just like we are on here. I personally prefer to have someone ruthless in charge of my beloved saints. I would hate us to end up where we were with lower than lowe in charge. I imagine if NC was a kind lovely sweet gentleman some people would still knock him for that . Also why are people still questioning why we have the worlds most premier builders of luxury boats as a sponsor ? Who should we have instead ? Poundland would that be more acceptable to you ?[/p][/quote]Lol, or job sh1te, like the blue few... Oh the shame of having such a high end sponsor. randre

10:11pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
What makes it your club?
i said "our club" not my club
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]What makes it your club?[/p][/quote]i said "our club" not my club slugger

10:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
What makes it your club?
i said "our club" not my club
Well I said "our club" I'm confused
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]What makes it your club?[/p][/quote]i said "our club" not my club[/p][/quote]Well I said "our club" I'm confused thomasupton

10:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

randre says...

St Retford wrote:
wizard wrote:
So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!!
Why? What did he do?

Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.
And they end it with "end off"! How do you turn an end off?

Maybe he meant end of, But to me that basically states he does not have a clue what he is on about and so does not want to be questioned about it, hence "end of(f)".
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wizard[/bold] wrote: So how many of you people commenting have actually met Mr Cortese? I have and I agree with Le Tiss, he is a nasty little human being!!! end off!![/p][/quote]Why? What did he do? Seriously, people make these accusations and then chicken out of saying anything to back it up, thus rendering their point completely meaningless.[/p][/quote]And they end it with "end off"! How do you turn an end off? Maybe he meant end of, But to me that basically states he does not have a clue what he is on about and so does not want to be questioned about it, hence "end of(f)". randre

10:18pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
What makes it your club?
i said "our club" not my club
Well I said "our club" I'm confused
Reading between the lines here...but I think he thinks that you may be of the skate thinking persuasion...I think that his thinking might be spot on.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]What makes it your club?[/p][/quote]i said "our club" not my club[/p][/quote]Well I said "our club" I'm confused[/p][/quote]Reading between the lines here...but I think he thinks that you may be of the skate thinking persuasion...I think that his thinking might be spot on. Baddesley Bill

10:21pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
What makes it your club?
i said "our club" not my club
Well I said "our club" I'm confused
most skunts are, funny enough.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]What makes it your club?[/p][/quote]i said "our club" not my club[/p][/quote]Well I said "our club" I'm confused[/p][/quote]most skunts are, funny enough. angus mc coatup

10:26pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus, what is a "skunt?"
angus, what is a "skunt?" thomasupton

10:34pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus, what is a "skunt?"
you definitey aren't a saints fan if you cant work that one out.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: angus, what is a "skunt?"[/p][/quote]you definitey aren't a saints fan if you cant work that one out. angus mc coatup

10:37pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus, what is a "skunt?"
you got a mirror ?
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: angus, what is a "skunt?"[/p][/quote]you got a mirror ? slugger

10:38pm Thu 18 Oct 12

randre says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.
Wow, is that the truth? Really?

Thanks for clearing that up, I foolishly thought Saints had a loan facility with an overseas lender (the same lender that a few other PL clubs have used) and that NC would certainly know where to get the best financial deals with his background.

I bow to your knowledge, well done and thank you for letting us know!!
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: truth is sfc are mortgaged to the hilt with a dodgy offshore loan , le god is not daft ,looks like its going very pear shaped , already , then the heat will be on.[/p][/quote]Wow, is that the truth? Really? Thanks for clearing that up, I foolishly thought Saints had a loan facility with an overseas lender (the same lender that a few other PL clubs have used) and that NC would certainly know where to get the best financial deals with his background. I bow to your knowledge, well done and thank you for letting us know!! randre

10:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus, what is a "skunt?"
Can I interject here...excuse me...a "skunt" is a near extinct animal...not quite a Do-Do (which has feathers and is totally extinct)...more of a Celiacanth (very near to extinction and very fishy). It has existed through the millenia with absolutely no chance of making a way in this world. It clings on to survival...alas...mo
ther nature won't allow for it in the long term...so it is ultimately doomed. Bit like Pompey really.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: angus, what is a "skunt?"[/p][/quote]Can I interject here...excuse me...a "skunt" is a near extinct animal...not quite a Do-Do (which has feathers and is totally extinct)...more of a Celiacanth (very near to extinction and very fishy). It has existed through the millenia with absolutely no chance of making a way in this world. It clings on to survival...alas...mo ther nature won't allow for it in the long term...so it is ultimately doomed. Bit like Pompey really. Baddesley Bill

10:39pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here. thomasupton

10:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)
How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D
I was going to ask for a translation of this post but I guess even that wouldn't make any sense.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)[/p][/quote]How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D[/p][/quote]I was going to ask for a translation of this post but I guess even that wouldn't make any sense. OSPREYSAINT

10:44pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
1-0 to the skunt .
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]1-0 to the skunt . slugger

10:44pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock. angus mc coatup

10:45pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
Welcome as an Honorary Member of the Spelling and Grammar Police, your input is important to us, but must be given free, there are no refunds permissable.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]Welcome as an Honorary Member of the Spelling and Grammar Police, your input is important to us, but must be given free, there are no refunds permissable. OSPREYSAINT

10:46pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)
How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D
I was going to ask for a translation of this post but I guess even that wouldn't make any sense.
to be honest i don't get it either , still , never mind .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]"Fratton"ising there are we ghk? ;O)[/p][/quote]How's yer ar53? Did bruva bu99er slugger stick to his word;D[/p][/quote]I was going to ask for a translation of this post but I guess even that wouldn't make any sense.[/p][/quote]to be honest i don't get it either , still , never mind . slugger

10:52pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
.. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping[/p][/quote].. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good. OSPREYSAINT

10:52pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels. thomasupton

10:55pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
His Sky Press Accreditation should gain him access to most games.
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]His Sky Press Accreditation should gain him access to most games. OSPREYSAINT

10:55pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
.. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.
Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping[/p][/quote].. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.[/p][/quote]Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club. thomasupton

10:56pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels? OSPREYSAINT

10:57pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
.. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.
Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club.
Perish the thought, they don't need us to do that, they are doing the damage without our help, as you should know.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping[/p][/quote].. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.[/p][/quote]Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club.[/p][/quote]Perish the thought, they don't need us to do that, they are doing the damage without our help, as you should know. OSPREYSAINT

10:58pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
it's our club , not yours .
LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping
.. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.
Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club.
of course , we're saints fans , it's our job ....................
...your point is ?
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]it's our club , not yours .[/p][/quote]LMAO you'll watch it go down the pan and you'll still be clapping[/p][/quote].. and you would be looking around for another club to run down with your endless drivel no doubt. Supporting your Club, means through thick or thin, good times or bad, not just on a whim, running away when the going is not so good.[/p][/quote]Hang on, aren't you and all your "positive" friends running down Portsmouth Football club.[/p][/quote]of course , we're saints fans , it's our job .................... ...your point is ? slugger

10:59pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day. thomasupton

11:00pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
when he's 17 i guess .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]when he's 17 i guess . slugger

11:01pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus, what is a "skunt?"
Just Google it, there is plenty of information on there for you to find out.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: angus, what is a "skunt?"[/p][/quote]Just Google it, there is plenty of information on there for you to find out. OSPREYSAINT

11:04pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone. OSPREYSAINT

11:13pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
Night night Thomas....night night
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]Night night Thomas....night night Baddesley Bill

11:21pm Thu 18 Oct 12

randre says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
well I don't know cortese personally but I don't dislike him.as far as I can see the liebherr family have bascally given him total control of all things saints.so he lives or dies on the progress of the club.I don't agee with every decision he makes but who can argue with the results so far.le tiss is entitled to his say just like we all are and it's patently obvious they hate each other(so what).they aint ever going to get along.as I can't influence anything other than watching and supporting thats what i'll continue to do, just like le tiss does. you don't have like the man after all it aint a popularity contest it's about pushing the club foreward and as long as thats happening then I'm a "happy clappy. sheep"

baaaaah!!

remember you flocked together on here first.
I'm a happy clappy sheep too, it feels good!
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: well I don't know cortese personally but I don't dislike him.as far as I can see the liebherr family have bascally given him total control of all things saints.so he lives or dies on the progress of the club.I don't agee with every decision he makes but who can argue with the results so far.le tiss is entitled to his say just like we all are and it's patently obvious they hate each other(so what).they aint ever going to get along.as I can't influence anything other than watching and supporting thats what i'll continue to do, just like le tiss does. you don't have like the man after all it aint a popularity contest it's about pushing the club foreward and as long as thats happening then I'm a "happy clappy. sheep" baaaaah!! remember you flocked together on here first.[/p][/quote]I'm a happy clappy sheep too, it feels good! randre

11:22pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.
Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.[/p][/quote]Fair play to you if you've worked all your life. thomasupton

11:25pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread
thatwiththegaps.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps. angus mc coatup

11:26pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.
Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.
Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.[/p][/quote]Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.[/p][/quote]Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess. OSPREYSAINT

11:28pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread

thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language. thomasupton

11:30pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.
Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.
Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess.
Well very sad to hear that if that's true.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.[/p][/quote]Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.[/p][/quote]Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess.[/p][/quote]Well very sad to hear that if that's true. thomasupton

11:48pm Thu 18 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread


thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang. OSPREYSAINT

11:50pm Thu 18 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread



thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
slang for what?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang.[/p][/quote]slang for what? thomasupton

11:53pm Thu 18 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread




thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
slang for what?
you,

just ignore the s.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang.[/p][/quote]slang for what?[/p][/quote]you, just ignore the s. angus mc coatup

11:59pm Thu 18 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread




thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
slang for what?
it's a made up word (copyrite angusmecoatup) that perfectly descibes a cross between a skate and a ladies toilet area .
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang.[/p][/quote]slang for what?[/p][/quote]it's a made up word (copyrite angusmecoatup) that perfectly descibes a cross between a skate and a ladies toilet area . slugger

12:00am Fri 19 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread





thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
slang for what?
you,

just ignore the s.
Still doesn't make sense??
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang.[/p][/quote]slang for what?[/p][/quote]you, just ignore the s.[/p][/quote]Still doesn't make sense?? thomasupton

12:04am Fri 19 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread





thatwiththegaps.
Just can't find it in the English Language.
It's slang.
slang for what?
it's a made up word (copyrite angusmecoatup) that perfectly descibes a cross between a skate and a ladies toilet area .
A fish and a cubicle??
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]I think the fact that the term "skunt" passed you, by is the least of your worries.Ifyoucanread thatwiththegaps.[/p][/quote]Just can't find it in the English Language.[/p][/quote]It's slang.[/p][/quote]slang for what?[/p][/quote]it's a made up word (copyrite angusmecoatup) that perfectly descibes a cross between a skate and a ladies toilet area .[/p][/quote]A fish and a cubicle?? thomasupton

12:09am Fri 19 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one.

My favourite is Little Miss Dotty.

According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own.

It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one. My favourite is Little Miss Dotty. According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own. It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who. Strasbourg Saint

12:13am Fri 19 Oct 12

randre says...

In previous employment I have worked for some "difficult" characters who demand the best and throw an absolute wobbler if anything goes wrong. Whilst I may not have liked such bosses, I respected them. I worked hard for them and when I had consistently done my job well over a period of time, they showed their graciousness by promotion or pay rises. Whilst this particular person was not top of my Christmas list I knew that my job and the company I worked for was safe. I respected him and I am adult enough to know everyone Is different. I don't feel the need to like my boss, but I do need to respect them. I believe Nicola Cortese has earned respect!

Now, as a person that manages other staff within the company I work for, I like to think I treat people fair and with a kind manner. To me it is the way I do things, but I would not say that it is either right or wrong, it is just my way of managing. But if employees have got problems with NC and can't cope with the way he does things and with what he demands from within the company he is paid to run, then they should go and find another job.
I personally have always demanded I work hard for my own gains, in my experience it is only ever the lazy people that begrudge earning their wage that ever have serious grievances with their bosses. This just may be the reason some people who have worked with NC do not like him, not on whole with his persona but maybe due to a lack of work ethic from their side maybe. Just my opinion!
In previous employment I have worked for some "difficult" characters who demand the best and throw an absolute wobbler if anything goes wrong. Whilst I may not have liked such bosses, I respected them. I worked hard for them and when I had consistently done my job well over a period of time, they showed their graciousness by promotion or pay rises. Whilst this particular person was not top of my Christmas list I knew that my job and the company I worked for was safe. I respected him and I am adult enough to know everyone Is different. I don't feel the need to like my boss, but I do need to respect them. I believe Nicola Cortese has earned respect! Now, as a person that manages other staff within the company I work for, I like to think I treat people fair and with a kind manner. To me it is the way I do things, but I would not say that it is either right or wrong, it is just my way of managing. But if employees have got problems with NC and can't cope with the way he does things and with what he demands from within the company he is paid to run, then they should go and find another job. I personally have always demanded I work hard for my own gains, in my experience it is only ever the lazy people that begrudge earning their wage that ever have serious grievances with their bosses. This just may be the reason some people who have worked with NC do not like him, not on whole with his persona but maybe due to a lack of work ethic from their side maybe. Just my opinion! randre

6:11am Fri 19 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one.

My favourite is Little Miss Dotty.

According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own.

It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.
Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one. My favourite is Little Miss Dotty. According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own. It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.[/p][/quote]Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore? ghk230473

8:00am Fri 19 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
saint61 wrote:
Paul TS wrote:
If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please!
MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.
Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club?

Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots.

Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years.

What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.
"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now."

Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror.

It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration.

The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club.

Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple).
Now that made me giggle. In fact I giggled like a good giggler, giggling.

But all this is completely spoiled when one is caused by you to wonder what parts of all this giggle/giggled/giggl

er/gigglingstuff are past and present participles - and then consider all the simple participles and any potentially perfect ones to boot.

I will always be grateful to you Stras for putting me right for all time on the less/fewer thing, but come on mate, lay off the participles.

If, like me, you had ever been treated for a painful dangling participle, I think you'd be fewer likely to keep going on about them now.
Sorry, Confucious. Given the treatment you write about, I guess the mention of such things was insensitive and was FAR MUCH likely to cause you stress.

Oh well, the LOWER the MUCHER, perhaps.

Oh, and Wiki reminded me that, as well as Little Miss Dotty, there's a Little Miss Giggles. It says:
"Little Miss Giggles can't stop giggling.Once during her daily walk she is unable to giggle; she meets Mr. Happy, and they go to Dr. Makeyouwell. To solve the problem, Mr. Happy gives Little Miss Giggles a 'giggle'."

So, we now know what 'giggle' is a euphemism for, don't we?

Furthermore, I guess if Le God and Le Don met, one would tell the other to giggle off.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul TS[/bold] wrote: If rumor has it that le Tiss has to pay and watch the team at St Mary's, this I think is wrong, after all unlike most modern day players he was 100% loyal and a massive asset to our club over many years. Cortese is doing a good job running the club, however I have also heard some rumors, that some other people employed including the academy staff are not very popular and it is not necessarily a very happy ship despite our now financial solid foundations! No matter what though, i will always support my team. 3 points this weekend please![/p][/quote]MLT can regulary be seen in the ex-saints hospitality box. Doubt very much that he is paying to watch any game.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that he has given a lot to the club? Strange how, when a player who was idolised when playing, gets criticised by those who idolised him when he hangs up his boots. Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now.[/p][/quote]"Matt has showed Loyalty to the club over a number of years. What a shame that he is begrudged a free seat now." Please can you replace the word MATT with the words STRASBOURG SAINT and repeat that sentence to yourself several times in a mirror. It's perfectly true and very logical, yet not even worthy of consideration. The difference between me (and most others) and the wonderful, loyal, brilliant hero that Matt the footballer will always be to me, is that I expect nothing for what I continue to give to the club. Don't get me started on 'Matt saved us from relegation year after year ....... blah blah blah!' He was instrumental in us being where we were then, are now and will be tomorrow as were, are and will be many others, players and others. The club owes us all one thing ..... 'a big thank you for our support'. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh, and it's 'shown' (past participle after HAVE/HAS in the present perfect), not 'showed' (past simple).[/p][/quote]Now that made me giggle. In fact I giggled like a good giggler, giggling. But all this is completely spoiled when one is caused by you to wonder what parts of all this giggle/giggled/giggl er/gigglingstuff are past and present participles - and then consider all the simple participles and any potentially perfect ones to boot. I will always be grateful to you Stras for putting me right for all time on the less/fewer thing, but come on mate, lay off the participles. If, like me, you had ever been treated for a painful dangling participle, I think you'd be fewer likely to keep going on about them now.[/p][/quote]Sorry, Confucious. Given the treatment you write about, I guess the mention of such things was insensitive and was FAR MUCH likely to cause you stress. Oh well, the LOWER the MUCHER, perhaps. Oh, and Wiki reminded me that, as well as Little Miss Dotty, there's a Little Miss Giggles. It says: "Little Miss Giggles can't stop giggling.Once during her daily walk she is unable to giggle; she meets Mr. Happy, and they go to Dr. Makeyouwell. To solve the problem, Mr. Happy gives Little Miss Giggles a 'giggle'." So, we now know what 'giggle' is a euphemism for, don't we? Furthermore, I guess if Le God and Le Don met, one would tell the other to giggle off. Strasbourg Saint

8:03am Fri 19 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one.

My favourite is Little Miss Dotty.

According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own.

It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.
Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore?
Sheep are resilient creatures, GHK.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one. My favourite is Little Miss Dotty. According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own. It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.[/p][/quote]Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore?[/p][/quote]Sheep are resilient creatures, GHK. Strasbourg Saint

8:43am Fri 19 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.
well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.
Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.
When do you take your A levels?
Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.
I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.
Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.
Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess.
Well very sad to hear that if that's true.
No it's not, as far as the dementia is concerned I was teasing you as usual.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: I "definitely" am. Sorry to point out your spelling mistake but that seems to be the done thing on here.[/p][/quote]well thank you for pointing that out.but if you don't know what the term "skunt" means,then you must have been hiding under a rock.[/p][/quote]Sorry difficult reading your reply, no gaps between your words. Sorry "skunt" must of passed me by when I was taking my O levels.[/p][/quote]When do you take your A levels?[/p][/quote]Never took them, went out to work, unlike you lot who are on here all day.[/p][/quote]I didn't take them either, 48 years and Four months work later, I realised that I didn't need them! Yuo dont ave to be edukated to bee a yuseful persone.[/p][/quote]Fair play to you if you've worked all your life.[/p][/quote]Not yet I haven't, but I have recently retired, my juvenile posting is mostly down to the onset of dementia I guess.[/p][/quote]Well very sad to hear that if that's true.[/p][/quote]No it's not, as far as the dementia is concerned I was teasing you as usual. OSPREYSAINT

8:44am Fri 19 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.
To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted.
It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things.
There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.
Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one.

My favourite is Little Miss Dotty.

According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own.

It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.
Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore?
How come every time you run out of sensible debate you resort to personal insults?
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Shows in some respect my worries when you get a legend like Matt who has concerns for our club.[/p][/quote]To be honest I think it has been taken out of text and he has been a little mis quoted. It is a shame that they cannot get on, he is a pr dream, Southampton Fc thru n thru and would help in promoting the club and selling the problematic corporate side of things. There is a question mark over schwi-man but we have to back the club like le god is until there are facts over his so called failings.[/p][/quote]Little Miss Quoted? Haven't read that one. My favourite is Little Miss Dotty. According to Wiki, Little Miss Dotty is just plain dotty. She lives in Nonsenseland (where Mr. Silly and Mr. Nonsense live), and has some pretty dotty ideas of her own. It reminds me of someone, but I just can't think who.[/p][/quote]Great input as per usual, how are the splinters? And is your Tongue sore?[/p][/quote]How come every time you run out of sensible debate you resort to personal insults? OSPREYSAINT

8:46am Fri 19 Oct 12

swiss_saint says...

I've been living on the swiss border for about 4 years now, and i can tell you that the swiss are a very strange bunch. I'm not saying what matty is saying is true, but i believe a saints legend over a money grabbing swiss man, any day.

COYR, please beat wet spam this saturday
I've been living on the swiss border for about 4 years now, and i can tell you that the swiss are a very strange bunch. I'm not saying what matty is saying is true, but i believe a saints legend over a money grabbing swiss man, any day. COYR, please beat wet spam this saturday swiss_saint

11:06am Fri 19 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Which Swiss Border?
Which Swiss Border? OSPREYSAINT

12:43pm Fri 19 Oct 12

jenthesaint1990 says...

there will be a time when it comes out that le tissier, mcmenemy et al were taking vast amounts of money out of the club when we were spiralling into financial meltdown as "ambassadors" for the club. the fans wont love them as much for not saying "i will be an ambassador for nothing while we struggle for money" and then maybe this prat with keep his cake hole shut.... woops! cats out of the bag now matt!
there will be a time when it comes out that le tissier, mcmenemy et al were taking vast amounts of money out of the club when we were spiralling into financial meltdown as "ambassadors" for the club. the fans wont love them as much for not saying "i will be an ambassador for nothing while we struggle for money" and then maybe this prat with keep his cake hole shut.... woops! cats out of the bag now matt! jenthesaint1990

3:02pm Fri 19 Oct 12

lowe esteem says...

Linesman wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut.

People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club.

The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed.

Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman.


My betting is that you were not.
Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground.

It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman.

So, yes, I think I was saying that.
While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team
Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on.

STID
If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'?

Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer?

If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement.

If you attend matches, you are supporting.

If you stay away, you are not supporting.
Very,very wrong, and that is right.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I know Le Tiss is a legend but he should really learn to keep his mouth shut. People in the public eye shouldn't air their dirty laundry in public, especially when it could have an affect on how the fans act towards the club. The last thing we need is negativity in the ground - it will affect players and results, guaranteed. Silly Matt, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether you were saying that when Rupert Lowe was the Chairman. My betting is that you were not.[/p][/quote]Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, but when Lowe was in charge I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should leave the negativity outside the ground. It's my belief that one of the major reasons we fell so hard is that fans stopped supporting the team as they should inside the ground, and were too busy complaining and moaning about the chairman. So, yes, I think I was saying that.[/p][/quote]While I was DEFINITELY advocating that we, as fans, should vote with our feet and pockets and stay away at that time and not feather the nest of someone (RL) who only had his own interests at heart. We never stopped supporing the team Its my belief that those of us who were moaning and complaining about the chairman was the major reason that facilitated our eventual return to top flight football and the course we are now on. STID[/p][/quote]If you were advocating 'that we, as fans, should vote wth our feet and pockets and stay away at that time', how can you later state 'We never stopped supporting the team.'? Did you stand outside the stadium and cheer? If you support your team, you are IN the ground, cheering them when they are winning, and cheering even louder when they are losing, so giving them encouragement. If you attend matches, you are supporting. If you stay away, you are not supporting.[/p][/quote]Very,very wrong, and that is right. lowe esteem

8:03am Sat 20 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

When some of you actually see how our Chairman behaves you will be eating alot of humble pie. Hes currently creating his own downfall. There will not be one Saints fan who doesnt think Cortese should resign. FACT
When some of you actually see how our Chairman behaves you will be eating alot of humble pie. Hes currently creating his own downfall. There will not be one Saints fan who doesnt think Cortese should resign. FACT SaintsBTGOG

8:24am Sat 20 Oct 12

KeithSFC says...

I loved Matt as a player but enough is enough.

I don’t know what Le Tissier is trying to do. He’s clearly using Sky and the Echo as a platform for stirring up ill feeling against Cortese. Perhaps it’s time he shut his mouth and perhaps we’re seeing why he never got the England caps he should have done and why no big clubs bought him.

As for the people who are posting on here talking about Cortese as if they know him they are just idiots. Calling him a horrible, sad, vindictive, control freak and saying things like who’s managing the team anyway Cortese or Adkins just demonstrates what sad ignorant people they are who can only repeat what others say without thinking for themselves.

Whether you agree with MLT or not the question you’ve got to ask yourself is what is he trying to achieve?

He will divide the fans and destabilise the club. There will be the thick morons who will boo Cortese but if Cortese decides he's not staying where he's not appreciated the money will go with him so I hope MLT has a multi billionaire investor willing to take his place and one that has a clear vision for the club to become self sufficiant like Nicola has and not some fly-by-night that will leave us in the same position as Pompey.
I loved Matt as a player but enough is enough. I don’t know what Le Tissier is trying to do. He’s clearly using Sky and the Echo as a platform for stirring up ill feeling against Cortese. Perhaps it’s time he shut his mouth and perhaps we’re seeing why he never got the England caps he should have done and why no big clubs bought him. As for the people who are posting on here talking about Cortese as if they know him they are just idiots. Calling him a horrible, sad, vindictive, control freak and saying things like who’s managing the team anyway Cortese or Adkins just demonstrates what sad ignorant people they are who can only repeat what others say without thinking for themselves. Whether you agree with MLT or not the question you’ve got to ask yourself is what is he trying to achieve? He will divide the fans and destabilise the club. There will be the thick morons who will boo Cortese but if Cortese decides he's not staying where he's not appreciated the money will go with him so I hope MLT has a multi billionaire investor willing to take his place and one that has a clear vision for the club to become self sufficiant like Nicola has and not some fly-by-night that will leave us in the same position as Pompey. KeithSFC

10:10am Sat 20 Oct 12

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
When some of you actually see how our Chairman behaves you will be eating alot of humble pie. Hes currently creating his own downfall. There will not be one Saints fan who doesnt think Cortese should resign. FACT
Ooh, it must be true as you put "FACT" at the end of your post.

That told us then.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: When some of you actually see how our Chairman behaves you will be eating alot of humble pie. Hes currently creating his own downfall. There will not be one Saints fan who doesnt think Cortese should resign. FACT[/p][/quote]Ooh, it must be true as you put "FACT" at the end of your post. That told us then. Rob The Saint NOT in NZ

11:38am Sat 20 Oct 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

KeithSFC wrote:
I loved Matt as a player but enough is enough.

I don’t know what Le Tissier is trying to do. He’s clearly using Sky and the Echo as a platform for stirring up ill feeling against Cortese. Perhaps it’s time he shut his mouth and perhaps we’re seeing why he never got the England caps he should have done and why no big clubs bought him.

As for the people who are posting on here talking about Cortese as if they know him they are just idiots. Calling him a horrible, sad, vindictive, control freak and saying things like who’s managing the team anyway Cortese or Adkins just demonstrates what sad ignorant people they are who can only repeat what others say without thinking for themselves.

Whether you agree with MLT or not the question you’ve got to ask yourself is what is he trying to achieve?

He will divide the fans and destabilise the club. There will be the thick morons who will boo Cortese but if Cortese decides he's not staying where he's not appreciated the money will go with him so I hope MLT has a multi billionaire investor willing to take his place and one that has a clear vision for the club to become self sufficiant like Nicola has and not some fly-by-night that will leave us in the same position as Pompey.
So cortese can do what he likes as long as hes got a chequebook ? You will be booing as well when Corteses actions and behaviour are outed.
[quote][p][bold]KeithSFC[/bold] wrote: I loved Matt as a player but enough is enough. I don’t know what Le Tissier is trying to do. He’s clearly using Sky and the Echo as a platform for stirring up ill feeling against Cortese. Perhaps it’s time he shut his mouth and perhaps we’re seeing why he never got the England caps he should have done and why no big clubs bought him. As for the people who are posting on here talking about Cortese as if they know him they are just idiots. Calling him a horrible, sad, vindictive, control freak and saying things like who’s managing the team anyway Cortese or Adkins just demonstrates what sad ignorant people they are who can only repeat what others say without thinking for themselves. Whether you agree with MLT or not the question you’ve got to ask yourself is what is he trying to achieve? He will divide the fans and destabilise the club. There will be the thick morons who will boo Cortese but if Cortese decides he's not staying where he's not appreciated the money will go with him so I hope MLT has a multi billionaire investor willing to take his place and one that has a clear vision for the club to become self sufficiant like Nicola has and not some fly-by-night that will leave us in the same position as Pompey.[/p][/quote]So cortese can do what he likes as long as hes got a chequebook ? You will be booing as well when Corteses actions and behaviour are outed. SaintsBTGOG

4:23pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Sotonians_lets_pull_together says...

I was a fan of Le Tissier when he played for Southampton, despite the concerns over his work rate, he often scored key goals at crucial times.

However, we was a well paid professional footballer, and I am not in favour of the club wasting money providing perks to previous players, particularly when such players were VERY well paid.

If perks are available I dont blame him for taking advantage of them, but if they are withdrawn, I do not think it is acceptable for him and others to speak out against the club and management in the way that has been happening.

I am glad that the previous management have gone. I am glad that Le Tissier no longer has anything to do with the club if he is going to be rude about it or its management, and I am very happy that Southampton came under the wing of Liebherr and Cortese.

Liebherr and Cortese have been the saviours of the club.

Once Matt Le Tissier was seen as a saviour of the club, but no longer by me, his outbursts seem mean and unprofessional, and I want to hear no more about it from him. A wise man once said, if you havent got anything nice to say, best to say nothing at all.
I was a fan of Le Tissier when he played for Southampton, despite the concerns over his work rate, he often scored key goals at crucial times. However, we was a well paid professional footballer, and I am not in favour of the club wasting money providing perks to previous players, particularly when such players were VERY well paid. If perks are available I dont blame him for taking advantage of them, but if they are withdrawn, I do not think it is acceptable for him and others to speak out against the club and management in the way that has been happening. I am glad that the previous management have gone. I am glad that Le Tissier no longer has anything to do with the club if he is going to be rude about it or its management, and I am very happy that Southampton came under the wing of Liebherr and Cortese. Liebherr and Cortese have been the saviours of the club. Once Matt Le Tissier was seen as a saviour of the club, but no longer by me, his outbursts seem mean and unprofessional, and I want to hear no more about it from him. A wise man once said, if you havent got anything nice to say, best to say nothing at all. Sotonians_lets_pull_together

4:26pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Sotonians_lets_pull_together says...

Seems to me that the negative comments about Cortese stem not from how the club is managed, but from a small bitter section of the fanbase who wish to complain because perhaps they no longer get the freebies they once used to?
Seems to me that the negative comments about Cortese stem not from how the club is managed, but from a small bitter section of the fanbase who wish to complain because perhaps they no longer get the freebies they once used to? Sotonians_lets_pull_together

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