Adkins: I don't know how long I have got

First published in Saints News

Nigel Adkins admits he doesn't know how long he will be given to turn Saints' fortunes around.

The manager watched as his side capitulated in the second half at Upton Park, losing 4-1 to West Ham.

Saints are now back in the relegation zone, with just four points from eight games and the worst defensive record in the Premier League, having now conceded a total of 24 goals.

All that has led to further speculation that Adkins' job could be under threat.

Asked how long he thinks he will have to turn things around, the he said: "Honest answer? I don't know. That is football, I am being brutally honest with you.

"There is a vision at the football club to play a certain brand of football by passing the ball.

"There needs to be stability at any football club, which is important. But I am not naive as it's football and football is a results-driven industry.

"We've got a process in place that we're doing our best to adhere to, but you've got to win games of football.

"You've got to keep it out at one end and stick it in at the other end.

"On too many occasions this year in the Barclays Premier League, we've not kept it out of our net and I am being up front and honest with you."

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8:58pm Sat 20 Oct 12

John Gillham says...

He's an honourable man. Maybe someone with Premier League experience could come in to help him, maybe a defensive coach? Was it Nigel's decision not to go for more defenders and why did we spend £12 million on one player when we didn't get those defenders?
He's an honourable man. Maybe someone with Premier League experience could come in to help him, maybe a defensive coach? Was it Nigel's decision not to go for more defenders and why did we spend £12 million on one player when we didn't get those defenders? John Gillham
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9:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12

leechyboy says...

I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them. leechyboy
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9:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

Thanks for your efforts Nige, appreciate what you've done for the club but its time to move on. Shame it didnt work out. Onwards and upwards!
Thanks for your efforts Nige, appreciate what you've done for the club but its time to move on. Shame it didnt work out. Onwards and upwards! Saint 2701
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9:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Matt Allen says...

I think we need to stick with Nigel, even if we do go down; he's got us up before and I am sure he can do it again.

That being said l dont get leaving Ricky on the bench or taking him off - if we are going to score, then we have a much better chance with him om the field; and i am sure he can last 90 mins.

Come on Nigel sort it out - you can do it!
I think we need to stick with Nigel, even if we do go down; he's got us up before and I am sure he can do it again. That being said l dont get leaving Ricky on the bench or taking him off - if we are going to score, then we have a much better chance with him om the field; and i am sure he can last 90 mins. Come on Nigel sort it out - you can do it! Matt Allen
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9:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

hdfw09 says...

I like NA and am optimistic he can turn this around. He is a very big reason for the back to back promotions. However, at some point you have to question the decision making, not ability, of the defense. Poor positioning and poor passing. All of which are NA's responsibility as manager. NA needs to address this ASAP. The defense creates too many chances for the opposition's offense.
I like NA and am optimistic he can turn this around. He is a very big reason for the back to back promotions. However, at some point you have to question the decision making, not ability, of the defense. Poor positioning and poor passing. All of which are NA's responsibility as manager. NA needs to address this ASAP. The defense creates too many chances for the opposition's offense. hdfw09
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9:11pm Sat 20 Oct 12

saintmoz says...

leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.
Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???
[quote][p][bold]leechyboy[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.[/p][/quote]Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in??? saintmoz
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9:15pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

I can't believe that NA did not want to buy some defenders but was over ruled by the chairman.
Nigel Adkins will be sacked within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner.
The next manager must be someone who can deal with a dictator of a chairman.... personally I'd prefer Cortese to be sacked by the Liebherr family.... not really gonna happen though.
I can't believe that NA did not want to buy some defenders but was over ruled by the chairman. Nigel Adkins will be sacked within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner. The next manager must be someone who can deal with a dictator of a chairman.... personally I'd prefer Cortese to be sacked by the Liebherr family.... not really gonna happen though. costa gaz
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9:19pm Sat 20 Oct 12

leechyboy says...

saintmoz wrote:
leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.
Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???
I dont know to be honest but I am not sure that either Harry or Rafa Benitez are the answer.
[quote][p][bold]saintmoz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leechyboy[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.[/p][/quote]Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???[/p][/quote]I dont know to be honest but I am not sure that either Harry or Rafa Benitez are the answer. leechyboy
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9:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Nicole23 says...

King Kenny please come in
King Kenny please come in Nicole23
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9:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Come on GANG. we need your expertise right now.... where are you?
Come on GANG. we need your expertise right now.... where are you? costa gaz
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9:26pm Sat 20 Oct 12

pompey in spain says...

OH DEAR,OH DEAR,OH DEAR!!!
OH DEAR,OH DEAR,OH DEAR!!! pompey in spain
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9:27pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

pompey in spain wrote:
OH DEAR,OH DEAR,OH DEAR!!!
Totally agree with you PiS
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: OH DEAR,OH DEAR,OH DEAR!!![/p][/quote]Totally agree with you PiS costa gaz
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9:30pm Sat 20 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football. warrens 76
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9:31pm Sat 20 Oct 12

pompey in spain says...

COSTA THEYRE IN THE PUBS DROWNING THEIR TEARS!
COSTA THEYRE IN THE PUBS DROWNING THEIR TEARS! pompey in spain
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9:31pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Saintmatt7 says...

I'm worried. But a month ago he and cortese were the best we've ever had, that doesn't change in a month and let's be honest what chairman isn't a bit of a dik. Lets stick together and keep moving forward. That said we have to play rickie and we have to have a settled back five. Until we do the mistakes will keep coming.
I'm worried. But a month ago he and cortese were the best we've ever had, that doesn't change in a month and let's be honest what chairman isn't a bit of a dik. Lets stick together and keep moving forward. That said we have to play rickie and we have to have a settled back five. Until we do the mistakes will keep coming. Saintmatt7
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9:33pm Sat 20 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

pompey in spain wrote:
COSTA THEYRE IN THE PUBS DROWNING THEIR TEARS!
Yes, yes we are..
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: COSTA THEYRE IN THE PUBS DROWNING THEIR TEARS![/p][/quote]Yes, yes we are.. warrens 76
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9:33pm Sat 20 Oct 12

pompey in spain says...

warrens....hear hear but it aint gonna happen!!
warrens....hear hear but it aint gonna happen!! pompey in spain
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9:33pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Block41row0sfc says...

Time to pass the oar on or get off the bus don't know which ones he is on at the moment. To a post about cortese what on earth you talking about surely if he's picking the team adkins would Jack it in if not then he's a money grabber but I don't believe it to be true. Think there readying someone to come in you cannot be going games with no manager.
Time to pass the oar on or get off the bus don't know which ones he is on at the moment. To a post about cortese what on earth you talking about surely if he's picking the team adkins would Jack it in if not then he's a money grabber but I don't believe it to be true. Think there readying someone to come in you cannot be going games with no manager. Block41row0sfc
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9:35pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Linesman says...

costa gaz wrote:
I can't believe that NA did not want to buy some defenders but was over ruled by the chairman.
Nigel Adkins will be sacked within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner.
The next manager must be someone who can deal with a dictator of a chairman.... personally I'd prefer Cortese to be sacked by the Liebherr family.... not really gonna happen though.
Earlier in the week many fans were criticising Matt for his comments about Cortese.

Matt has been a good, honest servant of the club for very many years, and is a person who wants what is best for the club.

I am sure that he would not have been critical of anyone at the club, especially one in such a position, unless he had good grounds for it.

Cortese was good while he had Herr Liebherr to keep him in check, but it would appear that he is getting involved in team affairs, which is not his territory.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: I can't believe that NA did not want to buy some defenders but was over ruled by the chairman. Nigel Adkins will be sacked within the next couple of weeks, if not sooner. The next manager must be someone who can deal with a dictator of a chairman.... personally I'd prefer Cortese to be sacked by the Liebherr family.... not really gonna happen though.[/p][/quote]Earlier in the week many fans were criticising Matt for his comments about Cortese. Matt has been a good, honest servant of the club for very many years, and is a person who wants what is best for the club. I am sure that he would not have been critical of anyone at the club, especially one in such a position, unless he had good grounds for it. Cortese was good while he had Herr Liebherr to keep him in check, but it would appear that he is getting involved in team affairs, which is not his territory. Linesman
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9:36pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Linesman says...

One sure thing. If Nigel Adkins is sacked this week, he will not be out of work as long as Harry Redknapp has been.
One sure thing. If Nigel Adkins is sacked this week, he will not be out of work as long as Harry Redknapp has been. Linesman
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9:39pm Sat 20 Oct 12

kitch71 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
I was all for Nigel getting the boot til i read your post. It shows how fickle I am and how fickle and short sighted we all can be.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]I was all for Nigel getting the boot til i read your post. It shows how fickle I am and how fickle and short sighted we all can be. kitch71
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9:39pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
I normally agree with you, but not this time warrens 76.
We have already reached the promised land, the hard work has been done.
It is now a time to consolidate and keep our position until we are able to take the next step foward.
Nigels tactic of attack, attack, attack, is not working right now.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]I normally agree with you, but not this time warrens 76. We have already reached the promised land, the hard work has been done. It is now a time to consolidate and keep our position until we are able to take the next step foward. Nigels tactic of attack, attack, attack, is not working right now. costa gaz
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9:40pm Sat 20 Oct 12

boilerman says...

Nicole23 wrote:
King Kenny please come in
you are having a laugh
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: King Kenny please come in[/p][/quote]you are having a laugh boilerman
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9:48pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Dazzler79 says...

I'm all for stability especially after all the managers we've had over 10 years.
But Adkins is tactically useless and in this league is getting found out.
Leaving Lambert out against a big strong team like West Ham was just stupid.
Our defence was always going to be weak in this league and am surprised he didn't strengthen there first.
We wasted £7 million on Rodriguez ffs.
His team selection and subs have been baffling on more than one occasion this season already.
I'm afraid it's championship football again and back to square one.
And the fact we will sell a player. We bought for £12 million for half that when we go down too. I get the horrible feeling of deja vu.
I'm all for stability especially after all the managers we've had over 10 years. But Adkins is tactically useless and in this league is getting found out. Leaving Lambert out against a big strong team like West Ham was just stupid. Our defence was always going to be weak in this league and am surprised he didn't strengthen there first. We wasted £7 million on Rodriguez ffs. His team selection and subs have been baffling on more than one occasion this season already. I'm afraid it's championship football again and back to square one. And the fact we will sell a player. We bought for £12 million for half that when we go down too. I get the horrible feeling of deja vu. Dazzler79
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9:49pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Saint H says...

Tragic and NA will carry the can for all this. We are doomed and MLT's words in the week were echoed by NA's post match interview, ie he doesn't pick the team. I mean leaving SRL on the bench please! Where do we go from here.......Church me thinks!!
Tragic and NA will carry the can for all this. We are doomed and MLT's words in the week were echoed by NA's post match interview, ie he doesn't pick the team. I mean leaving SRL on the bench please! Where do we go from here.......Church me thinks!! Saint H
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9:50pm Sat 20 Oct 12

pompey in spain says...

kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!!
kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!! pompey in spain
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9:53pm Sat 20 Oct 12

montecristosaint says...

i was severely criticzed for having a go at what I felt was blin adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need eperienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if neessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of runing a football cub and one whatever of a club i the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quckly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Eiter Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.
i was severely criticzed for having a go at what I felt was blin adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need eperienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if neessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of runing a football cub and one whatever of a club i the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quckly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Eiter Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk. montecristosaint
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9:55pm Sat 20 Oct 12

SaintinCanada says...

As I said earlier - tactics lost us the game.
As I said earlier - tactics lost us the game. SaintinCanada
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9:55pm Sat 20 Oct 12

circa 66 saint says...

pompey in spain wrote:
kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!!
tax dodger more suited to you skunts
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!![/p][/quote]tax dodger more suited to you skunts circa 66 saint
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9:57pm Sat 20 Oct 12

pompey in spain says...

kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!!
kenny would be ideal .......kenny dodd that is!! pompey in spain
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9:57pm Sat 20 Oct 12

montecristosaint says...

i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.” montecristosaint
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9:59pm Sat 20 Oct 12

magnette says...

In his defence the leaving in or out of Lambert was irrelevant to the result, Saints lost 4 1. The defence selection was more or less forced on him by injury.
But, whether the best defensive line up is any better I have my doubts.
In his defence the leaving in or out of Lambert was irrelevant to the result, Saints lost 4 1. The defence selection was more or less forced on him by injury. But, whether the best defensive line up is any better I have my doubts. magnette
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10:00pm Sat 20 Oct 12

loosehead says...

Commentator said three Saints defenders around the man but he broke free & scored?
I've heard Adkins say we must all defend but then say we're an attacking side?
you have to have a solid defence to go out & out attacking.
Last year a few sides showed just how bad our defence was.
maybe we needed another striker but mostly we needed a new defence now who ever decided not to go down that route is to blame for our results if it was Cortese then let him step down but I've noticed a defender./goalie as a manager concentrates on attack then has a weak defence & an attacking player will have a great defence but poor attack we need to have both maybe bring in an attacking player who wants to manage to work alongside Adkins?
Commentator said three Saints defenders around the man but he broke free & scored? I've heard Adkins say we must all defend but then say we're an attacking side? you have to have a solid defence to go out & out attacking. Last year a few sides showed just how bad our defence was. maybe we needed another striker but mostly we needed a new defence now who ever decided not to go down that route is to blame for our results if it was Cortese then let him step down but I've noticed a defender./goalie as a manager concentrates on attack then has a weak defence & an attacking player will have a great defence but poor attack we need to have both maybe bring in an attacking player who wants to manage to work alongside Adkins? loosehead
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10:00pm Sat 20 Oct 12

hedgeenddan says...

hate to say it but i think redknapp is the man yeh i think hes a see you next tuesday but he is a proven prem manager
hate to say it but i think redknapp is the man yeh i think hes a see you next tuesday but he is a proven prem manager hedgeenddan
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10:00pm Sat 20 Oct 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

sadly for nigel ,the taxi will arrive next week , but nic cortese seems very out of his depth with the big boys , seems they,ve taken him for 20 mill already.
sadly for nigel ,the taxi will arrive next week , but nic cortese seems very out of his depth with the big boys , seems they,ve taken him for 20 mill already. arthur dalyrimple
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10:02pm Sat 20 Oct 12

MGRA says...

Those that LOVE the fact that "what NC say is what happens" should now LOVE what is happening.... because I am sorry but even a wessex league manager would have played his best 11 today.....NA is inexperienced but not stupid. Well it appears the lovers-of-the-Don are now living in a parallel football world to rest of us.... if that assessment is wrong then NA is the worst manager in the history of football which I happen to think he is not...
Those that LOVE the fact that "what NC say is what happens" should now LOVE what is happening.... because I am sorry but even a wessex league manager would have played his best 11 today.....NA is inexperienced but not stupid. Well it appears the lovers-of-the-Don are now living in a parallel football world to rest of us.... if that assessment is wrong then NA is the worst manager in the history of football which I happen to think he is not... MGRA
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10:03pm Sat 20 Oct 12

kitch71 says...

kenny stay away please. If our Nige does leave then id love to see someone established come in who doesnt mind changing things when things dont work, and isnt too proud to admit when hes wrong. I dont think nc picks the team at all. He seems too defensive
kenny stay away please. If our Nige does leave then id love to see someone established come in who doesnt mind changing things when things dont work, and isnt too proud to admit when hes wrong. I dont think nc picks the team at all. He seems too defensive kitch71
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10:05pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”
You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”[/p][/quote]You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off. costa gaz
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10:07pm Sat 20 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

We should not even think of losing NA, he put his faith in the defence and they have not delivered or have been found wanting.

But I think after a pretty cruel set of opening fixtures the management and team are shell shocked and a high profile individual with Prem football experience should be brought in to help and support the First team set up.
We should not even think of losing NA, he put his faith in the defence and they have not delivered or have been found wanting. But I think after a pretty cruel set of opening fixtures the management and team are shell shocked and a high profile individual with Prem football experience should be brought in to help and support the First team set up. redsnapper
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10:09pm Sat 20 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride. hedge end bob
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10:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

leechyboy says...

Saint H wrote:
Tragic and NA will carry the can for all this. We are doomed and MLT's words in the week were echoed by NA's post match interview, ie he doesn't pick the team. I mean leaving SRL on the bench please! Where do we go from here.......Church me thinks!!
what in adkins' post match interview echoed the words of MLT?
[quote][p][bold]Saint H[/bold] wrote: Tragic and NA will carry the can for all this. We are doomed and MLT's words in the week were echoed by NA's post match interview, ie he doesn't pick the team. I mean leaving SRL on the bench please! Where do we go from here.......Church me thinks!![/p][/quote]what in adkins' post match interview echoed the words of MLT? leechyboy
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10:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Matt Le God says...

There must be some interference from NC; we were easily able to compete with west ham last season now we get our butts kicked. We just can't play the 'premiership' way like some of the more experienced teams and need to get back to playing like we know we can as we did last two seasons - that's how the likes of swansea and Norwich have survived.
There must be some interference from NC; we were easily able to compete with west ham last season now we get our butts kicked. We just can't play the 'premiership' way like some of the more experienced teams and need to get back to playing like we know we can as we did last two seasons - that's how the likes of swansea and Norwich have survived. Matt Le God
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10:13pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him. OSPREYSAINT
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10:14pm Sat 20 Oct 12

mbetts says...

Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football.

We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly.

There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.
Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football. We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly. There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far. mbetts
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10:17pm Sat 20 Oct 12

olddellsaint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
Here Here, well put Sir
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]Here Here, well put Sir olddellsaint
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10:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Red n White says...

For those thinking NA should/will go, who would you bring in? I can't think of any manager available who would follow the vision of the Saints way and bring through the youth.

Also, on defenders, none of the names I heard mentioned over the summer were any better than what we had. I don't think it was through a lack of trying, but just couldn't find the right players.
For those thinking NA should/will go, who would you bring in? I can't think of any manager available who would follow the vision of the Saints way and bring through the youth. Also, on defenders, none of the names I heard mentioned over the summer were any better than what we had. I don't think it was through a lack of trying, but just couldn't find the right players. Red n White
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10:24pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.
Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.[/p][/quote]Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong. Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it? costa gaz
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10:29pm Sat 20 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t. costa gaz
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10:37pm Sat 20 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy. TEBOURBA
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10:44pm Sat 20 Oct 12

leechyboy says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth. leechyboy
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10:46pm Sat 20 Oct 12

SUPER SAINT says...

see fish face is on motd
see fish face is on motd SUPER SAINT
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10:48pm Sat 20 Oct 12

SUPER SAINT says...

shearer or fishface
shearer or fishface SUPER SAINT
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10:51pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”
You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.
Well most of the gang have been getting hammered in hammer territory after we got hammered by the hammers, I missed the game completely because I was having a day out doing non football activities, if Harry comes in, that's something I will be doing a lot more of, there is a limit even to my loyalty to the Club.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”[/p][/quote]You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.[/p][/quote]Well most of the gang have been getting hammered in hammer territory after we got hammered by the hammers, I missed the game completely because I was having a day out doing non football activities, if Harry comes in, that's something I will be doing a lot more of, there is a limit even to my loyalty to the Club. OSPREYSAINT
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10:53pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SUPER SAINT wrote:
see fish face is on motd
No I won't be doing that!
[quote][p][bold]SUPER SAINT[/bold] wrote: see fish face is on motd[/p][/quote]No I won't be doing that! OSPREYSAINT
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10:55pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.
Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?
It's 80 - 23 now, any straw is worth clutching at, these posters are all pretty savy, unlike many on here.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.[/p][/quote]Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong. Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?[/p][/quote]It's 80 - 23 now, any straw is worth clutching at, these posters are all pretty savy, unlike many on here. OSPREYSAINT
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10:59pm Sat 20 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs. hedge end bob
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11:01pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Matt Le God says...

leechyboy wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.
Not out of his depth, just either trying too hard to please NC or getting interference from NC - just needs to get back to basics and play as we were last season and forget playing fancy. Formations and leave that too the arsenals and chelseas, we ain't there YET
[quote][p][bold]leechyboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.[/p][/quote]Not out of his depth, just either trying too hard to please NC or getting interference from NC - just needs to get back to basics and play as we were last season and forget playing fancy. Formations and leave that too the arsenals and chelseas, we ain't there YET Matt Le God
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11:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

turicky says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
Hear! Hear!
Would just like to add. Would all the posters, calling for either of the new 'keepers to play, for the season so far. Now wonder if maybe KD may have been the better choice, from the start. IMO he would have saved many of the goals conceded, and worked far better with the defence.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]Hear! Hear! Would just like to add. Would all the posters, calling for either of the new 'keepers to play, for the season so far. Now wonder if maybe KD may have been the better choice, from the start. IMO he would have saved many of the goals conceded, and worked far better with the defence. turicky
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11:10pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
That's a bit unfair, there are things to do outside of football, unfortunately some of them get in the way. I was in an area where there was no mobile signal and it is very frustrating when you can't pick up the score. At half time having got wind of the starting XI I was quite amazed, but sadly they never turned up for the second half, a good 45 minutes is no use in the Premier, it has to be 90+.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]That's a bit unfair, there are things to do outside of football, unfortunately some of them get in the way. I was in an area where there was no mobile signal and it is very frustrating when you can't pick up the score. At half time having got wind of the starting XI I was quite amazed, but sadly they never turned up for the second half, a good 45 minutes is no use in the Premier, it has to be 90+. OSPREYSAINT
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11:14pm Sat 20 Oct 12

St Retford says...

NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY. St Retford
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11:16pm Sat 20 Oct 12

leechyboy says...

Matt Le God wrote:
leechyboy wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.
Not out of his depth, just either trying too hard to please NC or getting interference from NC - just needs to get back to basics and play as we were last season and forget playing fancy. Formations and leave that too the arsenals and chelseas, we ain't there YET
If he is getting too much interference from NC then it shows he is not strong enough to deal with that and therefore shows he is out of his depth. I agree that the constant change in formations is an issue but clearly shows he doesnt know how to get the best from this group of players. The keeper issue is a joke. Dont get me wrong I really like NA and you cant help but feel sorry for him after his post match interview but I just think he is seriously struggling. BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY HOME AND AWAY GAME THIS SEASON!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Matt Le God[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leechyboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Would NA want someone else involved to such an extent? And there is no way that Hoddle would be interested in that sort of "babysitting" role!! I agree that good managers dont become bad overnight but the thing is that Adkins has stepped up to a level where he is out of his depth.[/p][/quote]Not out of his depth, just either trying too hard to please NC or getting interference from NC - just needs to get back to basics and play as we were last season and forget playing fancy. Formations and leave that too the arsenals and chelseas, we ain't there YET[/p][/quote]If he is getting too much interference from NC then it shows he is not strong enough to deal with that and therefore shows he is out of his depth. I agree that the constant change in formations is an issue but clearly shows he doesnt know how to get the best from this group of players. The keeper issue is a joke. Dont get me wrong I really like NA and you cant help but feel sorry for him after his post match interview but I just think he is seriously struggling. BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY HOME AND AWAY GAME THIS SEASON!!!! leechyboy
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11:16pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

Nigel Adkins is being let down badly by his staff.
The defensive displays that we have seen this year have been disgraceful.
I for one don't want to see him go, I would rather our 'Professionals' stepped up their game and started to to perform as they should.
Nigel Adkins is being let down badly by his staff. The defensive displays that we have seen this year have been disgraceful. I for one don't want to see him go, I would rather our 'Professionals' stepped up their game and started to to perform as they should. Ted Rogers
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11:18pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

turicky wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
Hear! Hear!
Would just like to add. Would all the posters, calling for either of the new 'keepers to play, for the season so far. Now wonder if maybe KD may have been the better choice, from the start. IMO he would have saved many of the goals conceded, and worked far better with the defence.
Just shows the fickle nature of us fans, before Gaza got in, some were baying for KD's blood, maybe we did protest too much and it filtered through to the Club who responded with the changes. How much influence do you really think that web sites like this and not606.com or Ugly Inside, or Saintsweb e.t.c. have in reality, I have my own ideas.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]Hear! Hear! Would just like to add. Would all the posters, calling for either of the new 'keepers to play, for the season so far. Now wonder if maybe KD may have been the better choice, from the start. IMO he would have saved many of the goals conceded, and worked far better with the defence.[/p][/quote]Just shows the fickle nature of us fans, before Gaza got in, some were baying for KD's blood, maybe we did protest too much and it filtered through to the Club who responded with the changes. How much influence do you really think that web sites like this and not606.com or Ugly Inside, or Saintsweb e.t.c. have in reality, I have my own ideas. OSPREYSAINT
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11:23pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.
Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?
It's 80 - 23 now, any straw is worth clutching at, these posters are all pretty savy, unlike many on here.
It's 87 - 23 now, if you want NA out you better get over there get your vote in.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.[/p][/quote]Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong. Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?[/p][/quote]It's 80 - 23 now, any straw is worth clutching at, these posters are all pretty savy, unlike many on here.[/p][/quote]It's 87 - 23 now, if you want NA out you better get over there get your vote in. OSPREYSAINT
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11:26pm Sat 20 Oct 12

turicky says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy.
I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done.
I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy. I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done. I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job. turicky
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11:30pm Sat 20 Oct 12

deepheat says...

Sir Alex Ferguson is not happy with Rio Ferdinand maybe we could get him on loan. All we need is a couple of wins to get us going and keep above Villa, Reading, QPR, Wigan and Norwich and voila happy days are here again. Oh and get the red and white stripe shirts back on the players.
Sir Alex Ferguson is not happy with Rio Ferdinand maybe we could get him on loan. All we need is a couple of wins to get us going and keep above Villa, Reading, QPR, Wigan and Norwich and voila happy days are here again. Oh and get the red and white stripe shirts back on the players. deepheat
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11:35pm Sat 20 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

turicky wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy.
I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done.
I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.
not sure that you're allowed to sack the most knowledgable man to ever walk this earth.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy. I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done. I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.[/p][/quote]not sure that you're allowed to sack the most knowledgable man to ever walk this earth. angus mc coatup
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11:37pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Dellgirl says...

A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem? It was never going to work was it? Dellgirl
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11:39pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Taupo bt says...

Three keepers in eight games and two ageingcentre backs more suited t championship says it all.Sure this is an observation only from 12,000 miles
Three keepers in eight games and two ageingcentre backs more suited t championship says it all.Sure this is an observation only from 12,000 miles Taupo bt
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11:40pm Sat 20 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
turicky wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy.
I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done.
I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.
not sure that you're allowed to sack the most knowledgable man to ever walk this earth.
angus, answered your question on the other thread.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Mmmm I think if I was your boss, I would have sacked you and hired someone from the management consultancy. I worked for 23 years for a major oil company. Over that period they twice bought in time and motion people. At the end of each of their visits, they concluded, the problems with the company were all down to bad management. Needless to say, nothing was done. I hope NC has the sense to leave NA alone and let him get on with the job.[/p][/quote]not sure that you're allowed to sack the most knowledgable man to ever walk this earth.[/p][/quote]angus, answered your question on the other thread. thomasupton
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11:41pm Sat 20 Oct 12

seany1966 says...

4-4-2 ... Say no more
4-4-2 ... Say no more seany1966
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11:41pm Sat 20 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
Nigel Adkins is being let down badly by his staff.
The defensive displays that we have seen this year have been disgraceful.
I for one don't want to see him go, I would rather our 'Professionals' stepped up their game and started to to perform as they should.
I agree.

Fonte for one cannot concentrate for 90 minutes, and the inconsistency of everyone in the back 5 *inc GK, has put us in this hole.

But ditching NA, for their failings is not the answer.

However I am baffled by the selection of J Rod over RL...that could do with an explanation.
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: Nigel Adkins is being let down badly by his staff. The defensive displays that we have seen this year have been disgraceful. I for one don't want to see him go, I would rather our 'Professionals' stepped up their game and started to to perform as they should.[/p][/quote]I agree. Fonte for one cannot concentrate for 90 minutes, and the inconsistency of everyone in the back 5 *inc GK, has put us in this hole. But ditching NA, for their failings is not the answer. However I am baffled by the selection of J Rod over RL...that could do with an explanation. redsnapper
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11:42pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Dellgirl says...

Played 8, conceded 24... Say no more.
Played 8, conceded 24... Say no more. Dellgirl
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11:51pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Wakefield Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
I agree warrens, we are still ahead of the 5year plan! NA needs to make mistakes to learn from them. As do the lads. I am sure he will come good.

But we must remain positive, take the lesson and move on, changing manager at this time will be counter productive! Have we not learned from lessons past ?

And all those who suggest HR as a replacement ! Get a grip,the last thing SFC need is the south coast s..t back at St Mary's.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]I agree warrens, we are still ahead of the 5year plan! NA needs to make mistakes to learn from them. As do the lads. I am sure he will come good. But we must remain positive, take the lesson and move on, changing manager at this time will be counter productive! Have we not learned from lessons past ? And all those who suggest HR as a replacement ! Get a grip,the last thing SFC need is the south coast s..t back at St Mary's. COYR Wakefield Saint
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11:59pm Sat 20 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

91 Keep 25 Sack, it's staying fairly consistent as new posters sign in. Frankly I am surprised at the results. More happy clappers than I knew existed.
91 Keep 25 Sack, it's staying fairly consistent as new posters sign in. Frankly I am surprised at the results. More happy clappers than I knew existed. OSPREYSAINT
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12:09am Sun 21 Oct 12

Wakefield Saint says...

Come on you lot, after reading all the post's on here tonight I fear you are all losing the plot ! We do need consistency,We do need experienced prem defenders, but these are the lessons everyone is learning.

Yes we could of bought a central defender and yes we could be top of the league but this is the premiership the toughest league in the world !

Please support what NC is trying to accomplish, A team that plays football in the right way!

We will get there ! Have faith, we are Southampton FC.

COYR
Come on you lot, after reading all the post's on here tonight I fear you are all losing the plot ! We do need consistency,We do need experienced prem defenders, but these are the lessons everyone is learning. Yes we could of bought a central defender and yes we could be top of the league but this is the premiership the toughest league in the world ! Please support what NC is trying to accomplish, A team that plays football in the right way! We will get there ! Have faith, we are Southampton FC. COYR Wakefield Saint
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12:13am Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
That's a bit unfair, there are things to do outside of football, unfortunately some of them get in the way. I was in an area where there was no mobile signal and it is very frustrating when you can't pick up the score. At half time having got wind of the starting XI I was quite amazed, but sadly they never turned up for the second half, a good 45 minutes is no use in the Premier, it has to be 90+.
My point is it was the same manager in the first half as well as the second. In the first half the team seemed to play to instructions which they clearly didn't for the second. Because of this people like COSTEGAZ...TEBOURA AND OTHERS are looking to sack the manager ffs.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]That's a bit unfair, there are things to do outside of football, unfortunately some of them get in the way. I was in an area where there was no mobile signal and it is very frustrating when you can't pick up the score. At half time having got wind of the starting XI I was quite amazed, but sadly they never turned up for the second half, a good 45 minutes is no use in the Premier, it has to be 90+.[/p][/quote]My point is it was the same manager in the first half as well as the second. In the first half the team seemed to play to instructions which they clearly didn't for the second. Because of this people like COSTEGAZ...TEBOURA AND OTHERS are looking to sack the manager ffs. hedge end bob
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12:17am Sun 21 Oct 12

Roy S says...

Harry Rednap's not doing anything at this time...
Harry Rednap's not doing anything at this time... Roy S
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12:19am Sun 21 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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12:19am Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.
HEAR HEAR Retford.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.[/p][/quote]HEAR HEAR Retford. hedge end bob
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12:24am Sun 21 Oct 12

Wakefield Saint says...

HR ? Do me a favor !
HR ? Do me a favor ! Wakefield Saint
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12:25am Sun 21 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

I cannot see why the happy clappies are so opposed to NC appointing an experienced coach, on a temporary basis to assist NA in tightening the defence.
There is no one at St Mary's with PL experience either on the pitch or in the dug out.
What is there to lose?
The alternatives are to leave things as they are and hope for the best or sack NA and appoint a new manager.
Either option would be very risky, I can't see things getting better on their own accord and a new manager would need time to implement his style of play and also win the hearts and minds of the players, which NA already has.
The past few weeks have seen a loan negotiated, work stopped at Staplewood, programme sellers sacked
critism of the ticketing and buffet arrangements, corporate supporters rebelling against seating changes Saints conceding a record number of goals in the PL and the manager publicly wondering how much longer he's got !!
What has our illustrious Chairman got to say about all this to the fans who pay his wages? ---- NOTHING! --- and there my friends is the nub of the problem!
Bookies are offering shorter odds on NC sacking NA than they did on Frankel!
I cannot see why the happy clappies are so opposed to NC appointing an experienced coach, on a temporary basis to assist NA in tightening the defence. There is no one at St Mary's with PL experience either on the pitch or in the dug out. What is there to lose? The alternatives are to leave things as they are and hope for the best or sack NA and appoint a new manager. Either option would be very risky, I can't see things getting better on their own accord and a new manager would need time to implement his style of play and also win the hearts and minds of the players, which NA already has. The past few weeks have seen a loan negotiated, work stopped at Staplewood, programme sellers sacked critism of the ticketing and buffet arrangements, corporate supporters rebelling against seating changes Saints conceding a record number of goals in the PL and the manager publicly wondering how much longer he's got !! What has our illustrious Chairman got to say about all this to the fans who pay his wages? ---- NOTHING! --- and there my friends is the nub of the problem! Bookies are offering shorter odds on NC sacking NA than they did on Frankel! TEBOURBA
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12:26am Sun 21 Oct 12

Wakefield Saint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.
HEAR HEAR Retford.
Here here 2 !
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.[/p][/quote]HEAR HEAR Retford.[/p][/quote]Here here 2 ! Wakefield Saint
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12:27am Sun 21 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]warrens 76 (I used that pub as well) my sentiments exactly.no need to panic we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve. angus mc coatup
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12:33am Sun 21 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

Wakefield Saint wrote:
HR ? Do me a favor !
My three season tickets would be returned immediately if that were to occur.
[quote][p][bold]Wakefield Saint[/bold] wrote: HR ? Do me a favor ![/p][/quote]My three season tickets would be returned immediately if that were to occur. Ted Rogers
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12:37am Sun 21 Oct 12

Snooky says...

I would be another guy to stick with Nige. I also think the prem is a step too far for all of us and we will get relegated this season. But in the past a drop in management meant more than a drop in 1 league. We still need stability and Nige is not a bad manager,

Sure some of Nige's substitutes are dodgy but it's never going to be a situation where we bring carrick or hargreaves off the bench. Lets face it. We are southampton.

Nige is a good manager and I don't believe he has been given full choice of transfer targets. he is a goalie so is defencive minded, yet he didn't strengthen defence?

It is easy at this time of the season to change adkins for someone else as we cannot change players. transfers shut so what can e change? Only the manager.
I would be another guy to stick with Nige. I also think the prem is a step too far for all of us and we will get relegated this season. But in the past a drop in management meant more than a drop in 1 league. We still need stability and Nige is not a bad manager, Sure some of Nige's substitutes are dodgy but it's never going to be a situation where we bring carrick or hargreaves off the bench. Lets face it. We are southampton. Nige is a good manager and I don't believe he has been given full choice of transfer targets. he is a goalie so is defencive minded, yet he didn't strengthen defence? It is easy at this time of the season to change adkins for someone else as we cannot change players. transfers shut so what can e change? Only the manager. Snooky
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1:00am Sun 21 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

After strengthening our defence, we will finish higher than Wigan, Norwich, QPR, Villa and Swansea.
We should not panic.
After strengthening our defence, we will finish higher than Wigan, Norwich, QPR, Villa and Swansea. We should not panic. Ted Rogers
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1:03am Sun 21 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
After strengthening our defence, we will finish higher than Wigan, Norwich, QPR, Villa and Swansea.
We should not panic.
nice one ted!!
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: After strengthening our defence, we will finish higher than Wigan, Norwich, QPR, Villa and Swansea. We should not panic.[/p][/quote]nice one ted!! angus mc coatup
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1:09am Sun 21 Oct 12

RedArmy1 says...

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

Good Winning Football is what we need.
RED ARMY thrives on the WINS.

Long suffering norwich beat ars*nil today. We should also beat them at St Mary's.

We should be taking points home today -so something is drastically wrong.

The way we are playing is like committing suicide - and at the emirates we played into wenger's hands by playing attacking football and giving creative players space to go on and score goals.

We must be more defensive - changing the goalkeeper alone - is not enough.

Every knows we should have invested in the Defence - but for now everyone in the Team must defend as a Unit until the Transfer Window Opens - we need to work on clean sheets and shutting teams out.

Everyone wanted to give Nigel at least 10 games to see how we fared.

This league is unforgiving - but a couple of WINS can change everything.

Let's get up off the floor and FIGHT.

THE FIGHT IS NOWHERE NEAR OVER.

LET'S GET THE WIN vs spurs and send their supporters packing.

It's what we need to do and what the supporters deserve.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY.
COYR.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. Good Winning Football is what we need. RED ARMY thrives on the WINS. Long suffering norwich beat ars*nil today. We should also beat them at St Mary's. We should be taking points home today -so something is drastically wrong. The way we are playing is like committing suicide - and at the emirates we played into wenger's hands by playing attacking football and giving creative players space to go on and score goals. We must be more defensive - changing the goalkeeper alone - is not enough. Every knows we should have invested in the Defence - but for now everyone in the Team must defend as a Unit until the Transfer Window Opens - we need to work on clean sheets and shutting teams out. Everyone wanted to give Nigel at least 10 games to see how we fared. This league is unforgiving - but a couple of WINS can change everything. Let's get up off the floor and FIGHT. THE FIGHT IS NOWHERE NEAR OVER. LET'S GET THE WIN vs spurs and send their supporters packing. It's what we need to do and what the supporters deserve. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY. COYR. RedArmy1
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1:13am Sun 21 Oct 12

owen thesaints... says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
well said, i think we need someone to come on board in an advisory role to NA, sacking him (which i sadly think might happen) would be a terrible decision, it would surely unsettle the players at a time we need total focus in what they have been doing so well, lets face it, the team and management are ALL on a huge learning curve. I firmly believe its not too late to turn things round and finish this first season back in the top flight without being relegated. I am not saying it will be easy, but we've done it before. We as fans of SFC should be proud, focused and totally behind the team AND management, Nigel frustrates me at times, but he is new to this level of football and i think when (and i do hope it's soon!) he gets it right he will prove all the doubters wrong. Believe in the club that we all support and ffs SUPPORT them...COYR STID
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]well said, i think we need someone to come on board in an advisory role to NA, sacking him (which i sadly think might happen) would be a terrible decision, it would surely unsettle the players at a time we need total focus in what they have been doing so well, lets face it, the team and management are ALL on a huge learning curve. I firmly believe its not too late to turn things round and finish this first season back in the top flight without being relegated. I am not saying it will be easy, but we've done it before. We as fans of SFC should be proud, focused and totally behind the team AND management, Nigel frustrates me at times, but he is new to this level of football and i think when (and i do hope it's soon!) he gets it right he will prove all the doubters wrong. Believe in the club that we all support and ffs SUPPORT them...COYR STID owen thesaints...
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1:21am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.
Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong.
Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?
Costa, go and support Pompey. You do not support Saints, you moan and berate the team and anyone who shows a little but of faith and appreciation. You have the cheek to call people happy clappy!! You are an embarrassment, sorry but you are.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: On not606 they have a poll going, 97 votes so far 75 keep him 22 sack him.[/p][/quote]Clutching straws osprey, you and the rest of the happy clapping gang have to admit you got it wrong. Everything in the garden was not as rosy as you thought was it?[/p][/quote]Costa, go and support Pompey. You do not support Saints, you moan and berate the team and anyone who shows a little but of faith and appreciation. You have the cheek to call people happy clappy!! You are an embarrassment, sorry but you are. randre
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1:21am Sun 21 Oct 12

TheJoiners says...

Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA.
He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me.
For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans.
People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear.
Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what??
REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)
Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA. He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me. For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans. People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear. Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what?? REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-) TheJoiners
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1:29am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT!
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT! randre
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1:30am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT!
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT! randre
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1:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?
I think you need to look at the squad and summer signings, read your post back and just consider what you have written.
[quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem? It was never going to work was it?[/p][/quote]I think you need to look at the squad and summer signings, read your post back and just consider what you have written. randre
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1:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

TheJoiners wrote:
Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA.
He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me.
For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans.
People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear.
Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what??
REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)
Well said too many people with short memories on this site , the premier league is finding a few of these players out unfortunately but we need stability at the top , NA has made some strange team selections granted and he must settle on a formation and his best team but he must be given time we are in the same mini league at the bottom with reading, qpr, villa, Wigan and Norwich , not heard any one calling for their managers head
[quote][p][bold]TheJoiners[/bold] wrote: Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA. He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me. For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans. People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear. Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what?? REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)[/p][/quote]Well said too many people with short memories on this site , the premier league is finding a few of these players out unfortunately but we need stability at the top , NA has made some strange team selections granted and he must settle on a formation and his best team but he must be given time we are in the same mini league at the bottom with reading, qpr, villa, Wigan and Norwich , not heard any one calling for their managers head Scarborosaint
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1:37am Sun 21 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

i am amazed at how many sofa managers we get posting on here!
did any of you who are calling for NA and or NC to go think we would be top of the table or something? i have been reading and posting on here for a few years, from the dark days when we nearly went bust. its strange how now we have lost a few games, so many `new` posters come on here, saying how they have been fans for years and want redkrapp back! well if you have been fans for years you will know what redkrapp did to us, you will also remember how rubbish we were when we changed managers every time we lost 5 games!
i know i will be called a `happy clapper` or any other well thought out name by some, but I WANT SAINTS TO WIN GAMES!, and i want them to do it WITH ADKINS!. do any of you idiots who want him to be sacked remember what happend to fergie when he first went to manure? they were rubbish for a couple of years and their idiot fans wanted him sacked, now look at them!
stick with the manager and get behind the team, and lets climb up this league together!
i am amazed at how many sofa managers we get posting on here! did any of you who are calling for NA and or NC to go think we would be top of the table or something? i have been reading and posting on here for a few years, from the dark days when we nearly went bust. its strange how now we have lost a few games, so many `new` posters come on here, saying how they have been fans for years and want redkrapp back! well if you have been fans for years you will know what redkrapp did to us, you will also remember how rubbish we were when we changed managers every time we lost 5 games! i know i will be called a `happy clapper` or any other well thought out name by some, but I WANT SAINTS TO WIN GAMES!, and i want them to do it WITH ADKINS!. do any of you idiots who want him to be sacked remember what happend to fergie when he first went to manure? they were rubbish for a couple of years and their idiot fans wanted him sacked, now look at them! stick with the manager and get behind the team, and lets climb up this league together! saintshorse101
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1:43am Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

randre wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT!
He is nothing but gloom ,dont see much of him if we win
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]supporters are not happy clappers, we can all see that our defence are leaking goals. But we still support the team and hope that a bit of trust and patience will pay off. Whatever, I support this team completely. If being a person who wants to support the team through the bad times makes me a happy clapper then im proud of it. I would rather that than be a pessimistic know it all who can't wait to say "I told you so" doom merchant. Our team are struggling, we can all see that, so our team need OUR SUPPORT![/p][/quote]He is nothing but gloom ,dont see much of him if we win hedge end bob
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1:51am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
i am amazed at how many sofa managers we get posting on here!
did any of you who are calling for NA and or NC to go think we would be top of the table or something? i have been reading and posting on here for a few years, from the dark days when we nearly went bust. its strange how now we have lost a few games, so many `new` posters come on here, saying how they have been fans for years and want redkrapp back! well if you have been fans for years you will know what redkrapp did to us, you will also remember how rubbish we were when we changed managers every time we lost 5 games!
i know i will be called a `happy clapper` or any other well thought out name by some, but I WANT SAINTS TO WIN GAMES!, and i want them to do it WITH ADKINS!. do any of you idiots who want him to be sacked remember what happend to fergie when he first went to manure? they were rubbish for a couple of years and their idiot fans wanted him sacked, now look at them!
stick with the manager and get behind the team, and lets climb up this league together!
like ;0)
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i am amazed at how many sofa managers we get posting on here! did any of you who are calling for NA and or NC to go think we would be top of the table or something? i have been reading and posting on here for a few years, from the dark days when we nearly went bust. its strange how now we have lost a few games, so many `new` posters come on here, saying how they have been fans for years and want redkrapp back! well if you have been fans for years you will know what redkrapp did to us, you will also remember how rubbish we were when we changed managers every time we lost 5 games! i know i will be called a `happy clapper` or any other well thought out name by some, but I WANT SAINTS TO WIN GAMES!, and i want them to do it WITH ADKINS!. do any of you idiots who want him to be sacked remember what happend to fergie when he first went to manure? they were rubbish for a couple of years and their idiot fans wanted him sacked, now look at them! stick with the manager and get behind the team, and lets climb up this league together![/p][/quote]like ;0) randre
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1:53am Sun 21 Oct 12

saintsupnorth says...

I think it is fairly evident who is ' Managing ' the club at the moment and its not NA. Look at the past 2 seasons, we always played our best starting 11. Subs were always spot on. As soon as we get to the Prem its all gone backwards, and if you look we all know that any manager in the prem would not leave his best striker on the bench. Only someone inexperienced would want to do that, and do i think NA is inexperienced after 2 promotions?. Think we all know NA is better at making decisions than what has been made so far. The Billy Sharp departure was a slight clue when some of his old collegues at Scunthorpe suggested NA was not happy loaning him out to Notts forest, and only found out when the deal was done. Why is NA putting up with it?, Something called loyalty to fans and players comes to mind. Even if he is been made out to look like an idiot, which we all know he's not.
I think it is fairly evident who is ' Managing ' the club at the moment and its not NA. Look at the past 2 seasons, we always played our best starting 11. Subs were always spot on. As soon as we get to the Prem its all gone backwards, and if you look we all know that any manager in the prem would not leave his best striker on the bench. Only someone inexperienced would want to do that, and do i think NA is inexperienced after 2 promotions?. Think we all know NA is better at making decisions than what has been made so far. The Billy Sharp departure was a slight clue when some of his old collegues at Scunthorpe suggested NA was not happy loaning him out to Notts forest, and only found out when the deal was done. Why is NA putting up with it?, Something called loyalty to fans and players comes to mind. Even if he is been made out to look like an idiot, which we all know he's not. saintsupnorth
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2:04am Sun 21 Oct 12

Sally Hamilton Original says...

It's simple... Pick the best players NA ... However, I am still enjoying the premiership dream!
It's simple... Pick the best players NA ... However, I am still enjoying the premiership dream! Sally Hamilton Original
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2:06am Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

As I've said on the other thread, I dont agree with this talk of being a yo yo club. It would be extremely damaging and there are no certainties that we would bounce back. I have faith but not blind faith.Conceding 3 goals per game is not acceptable. If we were to be relegated (and its far too early to presume that), it's one thing to go down fighting and quite another to be humiliated. I don't care if his next formation is 9-1, we must stop leaking goals!! I like NA but his tactics have always been suspect. A learning curve it may be but he doesn't learn from mistakes. If he is not up to the job, he must go. It's not what I want but my love for the club runs far deeper than my respect for Nigel


STID
As I've said on the other thread, I dont agree with this talk of being a yo yo club. It would be extremely damaging and there are no certainties that we would bounce back. I have faith but not blind faith.Conceding 3 goals per game is not acceptable. If we were to be relegated (and its far too early to presume that), it's one thing to go down fighting and quite another to be humiliated. I don't care if his next formation is 9-1, we must stop leaking goals!! I like NA but his tactics have always been suspect. A learning curve it may be but he doesn't learn from mistakes. If he is not up to the job, he must go. It's not what I want but my love for the club runs far deeper than my respect for Nigel STID st1halo
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2:48am Sun 21 Oct 12

Hdg end mo says...

Nigel's tactics were baffling today lambert on the bench was ridiculous guly on the left then took of puncheon who was playing well however as I said on Friday if our defence plays like they have done we will get beat I didn't think we would capitulate so easily very alarming very damaging for the players come on Nigel you've done us proud so far keep the faith sfc 4eva
Nigel's tactics were baffling today lambert on the bench was ridiculous guly on the left then took of puncheon who was playing well however as I said on Friday if our defence plays like they have done we will get beat I didn't think we would capitulate so easily very alarming very damaging for the players come on Nigel you've done us proud so far keep the faith sfc 4eva Hdg end mo
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4:21am Sun 21 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch. Tirau Dan
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5:33am Sun 21 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games. costa gaz
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6:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums. costa gaz
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7:48am Sun 21 Oct 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.
Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]warrens 76 (I used that pub as well) my sentiments exactly.no need to panic we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.[/p][/quote]Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR. ramptonfromsouthampton
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7:58am Sun 21 Oct 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.
Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.
and of course, for 'indentikit' read identikit. fingers/brain not in sync.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]warrens 76 (I used that pub as well) my sentiments exactly.no need to panic we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.[/p][/quote]Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.[/p][/quote]and of course, for 'indentikit' read identikit. fingers/brain not in sync. ramptonfromsouthampton
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8:12am Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.
Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.
Absolutely, we can never be a manure or any other plastic fan team, BUT in our own way we could offer something more...

.... a way of belonging, we have a style of play which results aside is great on the eye, our academy and it's direct link to the first team....we are not so far away...

I hate the ruthless mercenary here today gone tomorrow, manager, chairman and players...

Instead remember Atletico Bilbao last season, even the players all come from there, let's become something "as one".

...EVERYONE belongs to that club and the club belongs to everyone...we should aim to "emotionally " belong to the south and vice versa..if ever there was a man and a feeling to bring it about..NA is the man.

I accept we will probably go down, equally i believe that we play football the right way and eventually we will be a great team....we lose it all if we sack Adkins and his crew before the foundations are fully set.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]warrens 76 (I used that pub as well) my sentiments exactly.no need to panic we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.[/p][/quote]Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, we can never be a manure or any other plastic fan team, BUT in our own way we could offer something more... .... a way of belonging, we have a style of play which results aside is great on the eye, our academy and it's direct link to the first team....we are not so far away... I hate the ruthless mercenary here today gone tomorrow, manager, chairman and players... Instead remember Atletico Bilbao last season, even the players all come from there, let's become something "as one". ...EVERYONE belongs to that club and the club belongs to everyone...we should aim to "emotionally " belong to the south and vice versa..if ever there was a man and a feeling to bring it about..NA is the man. I accept we will probably go down, equally i believe that we play football the right way and eventually we will be a great team....we lose it all if we sack Adkins and his crew before the foundations are fully set. warrens 76
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8:14am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking. OSPREYSAINT
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8:15am Sun 21 Oct 12

Oldfan says...

If NA is a manager in name only then he should have resigned before now. If 'the process' he has bought into has become dogma then it will take us down by Christmas. No team can concede goals more or less at whim and expect success. If that what this process is producing you then you have to change it?
If NA is a manager in name only then he should have resigned before now. If 'the process' he has bought into has become dogma then it will take us down by Christmas. No team can concede goals more or less at whim and expect success. If that what this process is producing you then you have to change it? Oldfan
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8:16am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears. OSPREYSAINT
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8:17am Sun 21 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

Just watched highlights and as stats prove we didn't play too bad and had plenty of the ball.
It's when we are not in possession the trouble starts, we have to defend all over the pitch.
Having said that what is Adkins/schwi doing dropping lambert to the bench? He's scored 5 goals this season and is our talisman. He puts opposition defence on the back foot and links up play.
We are shifting 3 goals a game which cannot continue (obviously) we need to become more defensive in all areas of the pitch, if we can't get back let's not bomb forward. When we lose the ball, work hard to win it back. Tactics are useless if the players cannot do the basics, let's get back to basics.
Just watched highlights and as stats prove we didn't play too bad and had plenty of the ball. It's when we are not in possession the trouble starts, we have to defend all over the pitch. Having said that what is Adkins/schwi doing dropping lambert to the bench? He's scored 5 goals this season and is our talisman. He puts opposition defence on the back foot and links up play. We are shifting 3 goals a game which cannot continue (obviously) we need to become more defensive in all areas of the pitch, if we can't get back let's not bomb forward. When we lose the ball, work hard to win it back. Tactics are useless if the players cannot do the basics, let's get back to basics. ghk230473
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8:18am Sun 21 Oct 12

mack chinnon says...

Im happy with Nige.
Im happy with Nige. mack chinnon
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8:22am Sun 21 Oct 12

mack chinnon says...

warrens 76 wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
warrens 76 (I used that pub as well)



my sentiments exactly.no need to panic
we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.
Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.
Absolutely, we can never be a manure or any other plastic fan team, BUT in our own way we could offer something more...

.... a way of belonging, we have a style of play which results aside is great on the eye, our academy and it's direct link to the first team....we are not so far away...

I hate the ruthless mercenary here today gone tomorrow, manager, chairman and players...

Instead remember Atletico Bilbao last season, even the players all come from there, let's become something "as one".

...EVERYONE belongs to that club and the club belongs to everyone...we should aim to "emotionally " belong to the south and vice versa..if ever there was a man and a feeling to bring it about..NA is the man.

I accept we will probably go down, equally i believe that we play football the right way and eventually we will be a great team....we lose it all if we sack Adkins and his crew before the foundations are fully set.
Im with you lot.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]warrens 76 (I used that pub as well) my sentiments exactly.no need to panic we may yo yo for a while but the long term gain is there, if cortese can hold his nerve.[/p][/quote]Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'indentikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, we can never be a manure or any other plastic fan team, BUT in our own way we could offer something more... .... a way of belonging, we have a style of play which results aside is great on the eye, our academy and it's direct link to the first team....we are not so far away... I hate the ruthless mercenary here today gone tomorrow, manager, chairman and players... Instead remember Atletico Bilbao last season, even the players all come from there, let's become something "as one". ...EVERYONE belongs to that club and the club belongs to everyone...we should aim to "emotionally " belong to the south and vice versa..if ever there was a man and a feeling to bring it about..NA is the man. I accept we will probably go down, equally i believe that we play football the right way and eventually we will be a great team....we lose it all if we sack Adkins and his crew before the foundations are fully set.[/p][/quote]Im with you lot. mack chinnon
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8:23am Sun 21 Oct 12

loosehead says...

So many of you have said that for the first 45mins we held our own well what happened in the next 45?
as I've said three defenders marking one player & he breaks free & scores?
that speaks volumes for the quality of those defenders doesn't it?
Adkins says we know what the problem is & our working on it in training?
maybe bring up the youth team's defence & see if they can do any better?
So many of you have said that for the first 45mins we held our own well what happened in the next 45? as I've said three defenders marking one player & he breaks free & scores? that speaks volumes for the quality of those defenders doesn't it? Adkins says we know what the problem is & our working on it in training? maybe bring up the youth team's defence & see if they can do any better? loosehead
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8:24am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at. OSPREYSAINT
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8:24am Sun 21 Oct 12

sledgerite says...

can someone please explain to me how our no 1 keeper last week becomes our no 3 this week,i thought he did ok.Where are our young talented leftbacks,if youre not going to use them why bother giving them squad numbers..We let a few players leave in the close season,did we bring in better i dont think so,we lack a spine and leadership on the pitch i fear for us and when the opposition see a team sheet with no lambert on it its a big lift for them
can someone please explain to me how our no 1 keeper last week becomes our no 3 this week,i thought he did ok.Where are our young talented leftbacks,if youre not going to use them why bother giving them squad numbers..We let a few players leave in the close season,did we bring in better i dont think so,we lack a spine and leadership on the pitch i fear for us and when the opposition see a team sheet with no lambert on it its a big lift for them sledgerite
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8:26am Sun 21 Oct 12

loosehead says...

We have a player going/gone for a month to play in Africa?
We have another sidelined with a dead leg for another 4 weeks?
Didn't Pompey have problems like this?
why buy African Nation players if you know you're losing them for months at a time & when you'll really need them?
We have a player going/gone for a month to play in Africa? We have another sidelined with a dead leg for another 4 weeks? Didn't Pompey have problems like this? why buy African Nation players if you know you're losing them for months at a time & when you'll really need them? loosehead
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8:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

bobpetch says...

It all adds up to=
SOUTHAMPTON F.C.
PREMIERSHIP TOUR 2012/13
It all adds up to= SOUTHAMPTON F.C. PREMIERSHIP TOUR 2012/13 bobpetch
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8:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

randre wrote:
Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?
I think you need to look at the squad and summer signings, read your post back and just consider what you have written.
The point here is that the 100%ers that got us here, are not consdidered technically gifted enough to play in the Premier, they have been replaced by some individuals that, although appear on paper to be "better" players, they seem incapable of putting the 100% effort in any game when we need them to, we seem to get 45 minutes worth and then they just cease to function as a co-ordinated team. Yesterdays starting XI gave me the impression of a pub team, that we picked the favoured eleven irrespective of where they played and sent them out to play a team that had been picked to match our best eleven, in the first half they failed to cope with the irregulars! Second half, Sam had worked out a strategy and having got a couple of gifts, never looked back.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem? It was never going to work was it?[/p][/quote]I think you need to look at the squad and summer signings, read your post back and just consider what you have written.[/p][/quote]The point here is that the 100%ers that got us here, are not consdidered technically gifted enough to play in the Premier, they have been replaced by some individuals that, although appear on paper to be "better" players, they seem incapable of putting the 100% effort in any game when we need them to, we seem to get 45 minutes worth and then they just cease to function as a co-ordinated team. Yesterdays starting XI gave me the impression of a pub team, that we picked the favoured eleven irrespective of where they played and sent them out to play a team that had been picked to match our best eleven, in the first half they failed to cope with the irregulars! Second half, Sam had worked out a strategy and having got a couple of gifts, never looked back. OSPREYSAINT
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8:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.[/p][/quote]Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???. But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives. This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be. But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters) costa gaz
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8:37am Sun 21 Oct 12

midlandsaint says...

Nigel Adkins IS the man to manage our club, this season, and hopefully for several more seasons. Bringing in someone else is not the answer, and especially not Harry or Hoddle ffs. Whether Cortese will panic and replace Nigel remains to be seen. But I have faith in Nigel and believe he will turn things around and will keep us in the Premiership next season. We might only be in 16th or 17th place but really what are you expecting this season? 6th? 7th? We are a newly promoted club don't forget. Of course it is going to be tough!

Now, if a new manager was brought in are we suddenly going to have loads of new defenders? Of course not. We will have to make do until January when I think we will strengthen our defence in depth.

As for tactics and substitutions. Yes there has been some that have been dubious BUT if they had paid off we would have been labelling them inspired and calling Nigel an effing genius.

They haven't and so loads of you are calling for his head. Shame on you.

As far as I'm concerned (and unfortunately my name isn't Nicola Cortese) Nigel has earned the right to take charge at Southampton for the full season having got us here in the first place and it is after 38 games we should judge his performance, not after 8 games. And not when 3 of those are against Man City, Man Utd, and Arsenal (or indeed Everton - currently 4th in the table)
Nigel Adkins IS the man to manage our club, this season, and hopefully for several more seasons. Bringing in someone else is not the answer, and especially not Harry or Hoddle ffs. Whether Cortese will panic and replace Nigel remains to be seen. But I have faith in Nigel and believe he will turn things around and will keep us in the Premiership next season. We might only be in 16th or 17th place but really what are you expecting this season? 6th? 7th? We are a newly promoted club don't forget. Of course it is going to be tough! Now, if a new manager was brought in are we suddenly going to have loads of new defenders? Of course not. We will have to make do until January when I think we will strengthen our defence in depth. As for tactics and substitutions. Yes there has been some that have been dubious BUT if they had paid off we would have been labelling them inspired and calling Nigel an effing genius. They haven't and so loads of you are calling for his head. Shame on you. As far as I'm concerned (and unfortunately my name isn't Nicola Cortese) Nigel has earned the right to take charge at Southampton for the full season having got us here in the first place and it is after 38 games we should judge his performance, not after 8 games. And not when 3 of those are against Man City, Man Utd, and Arsenal (or indeed Everton - currently 4th in the table) midlandsaint
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8:38am Sun 21 Oct 12

midlandsaint says...

"But I have faith in Nigel and believe he will turn things around and will keep us in the Premiership next season. We might only be in 16th or 17th place but really what are you expecting this season?"

I meant I believe he will keep us up this season and we will be in the Premiership next season, even if we only finish this season 16th or 17th
"But I have faith in Nigel and believe he will turn things around and will keep us in the Premiership next season. We might only be in 16th or 17th place but really what are you expecting this season?" I meant I believe he will keep us up this season and we will be in the Premiership next season, even if we only finish this season 16th or 17th midlandsaint
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8:39am Sun 21 Oct 12

aldermoorboy says...

1/. Saints will stay up.
2/. Keep Nigel he is a great guy.
3/. I have loved the football we have played since Nigel came, win, lose or draw it is great to watch.
4/. If the fans stay with the team for 90 minutes + we can beat Spurs.
5/. Bye breakfast is ready.
1/. Saints will stay up. 2/. Keep Nigel he is a great guy. 3/. I have loved the football we have played since Nigel came, win, lose or draw it is great to watch. 4/. If the fans stay with the team for 90 minutes + we can beat Spurs. 5/. Bye breakfast is ready. aldermoorboy
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8:42am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
We have a player going/gone for a month to play in Africa?
We have another sidelined with a dead leg for another 4 weeks?
Didn't Pompey have problems like this?
why buy African Nation players if you know you're losing them for months at a time & when you'll really need them?
I see where you are coming from, but the same thing applies to many other Premier Clubs, in a limited market we have to take what we can get, not even a Crystal Ball would have predicted that our big money signing would be crocked in an accident. Fate can be unkind at times and even you will admit, we have not had much luck recently, that won't last for ever.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: We have a player going/gone for a month to play in Africa? We have another sidelined with a dead leg for another 4 weeks? Didn't Pompey have problems like this? why buy African Nation players if you know you're losing them for months at a time & when you'll really need them?[/p][/quote]I see where you are coming from, but the same thing applies to many other Premier Clubs, in a limited market we have to take what we can get, not even a Crystal Ball would have predicted that our big money signing would be crocked in an accident. Fate can be unkind at times and even you will admit, we have not had much luck recently, that won't last for ever. OSPREYSAINT
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8:44am Sun 21 Oct 12

PTID1898 says...

Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..
Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW .. PTID1898
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8:51am Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)
But some posters NEVER have anything positive to say, which is not in anyway supportive of the great work that has already been done.

As I have said before, true support comes when the team is struggling and needs it most, it is very easy to support a team that are doing well.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.[/p][/quote]Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???. But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives. This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be. But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)[/p][/quote]But some posters NEVER have anything positive to say, which is not in anyway supportive of the great work that has already been done. As I have said before, true support comes when the team is struggling and needs it most, it is very easy to support a team that are doing well. randre
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8:51am Sun 21 Oct 12

Jesus_02 says...

Why do people assume that someone chose to get Ramirez instead of defenders. We are a team that has achieved back to back promotion and isnt strong enough to instantly adjust to the premiership.

If we bought an completely new team we would still be in trouble

Get over it
Why do people assume that someone chose to get Ramirez instead of defenders. We are a team that has achieved back to back promotion and isnt strong enough to instantly adjust to the premiership. If we bought an completely new team we would still be in trouble Get over it Jesus_02
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9:00am Sun 21 Oct 12

mickey01 says...

how many people questioned me when i said rickie and nige dont get on !! which one would you rather have??
the difference between the 2 teams yeaterday was one manager had bought well with a board backing him and one who did not simplesi would rather have billy sharp than jay (what a waste) and guly is not up to it either
how many people questioned me when i said rickie and nige dont get on !! which one would you rather have?? the difference between the 2 teams yeaterday was one manager had bought well with a board backing him and one who did not simplesi would rather have billy sharp than jay (what a waste) and guly is not up to it either mickey01
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9:00am Sun 21 Oct 12

peachy1 says...

Don't sack him stick with him go down if you have to then come back up with him.

He's the right man for the job he needs a much bigger budget he needs to be left alone and Mr C needs to stop interfering

The need at least another 3 £15M players they have the money but won't spend

NA is the man though
Don't sack him stick with him go down if you have to then come back up with him. He's the right man for the job he needs a much bigger budget he needs to be left alone and Mr C needs to stop interfering The need at least another 3 £15M players they have the money but won't spend NA is the man though peachy1
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9:04am Sun 21 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts. There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January. There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right. In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term. Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts. Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well. Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can. Abbey Saint
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9:06am Sun 21 Oct 12

ghk230473 says...

randre wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)
But some posters NEVER have anything positive to say, which is not in anyway supportive of the great work that has already been done.

As I have said before, true support comes when the team is struggling and needs it most, it is very easy to support a team that are doing well.
I think some posters may have a bit more fore sight than others and can see potential down falls months ahead.
I stated in January transfer window we needed to spend a bit and prepare a little for premier league. I got slated by the herd and what did we do? Signed billy sharp whose now at Forrest! Fail to plan, plan to fail.
We struggled to get players in for 1 reason or other, I think it's schwi's negotiating technique.
Keep adkins but schwi-man needs to sit in the background, button it and generate monies from corporate/ticket sales from ALL games and release funds to Adkins in january
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.[/p][/quote]Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???. But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives. This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be. But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)[/p][/quote]But some posters NEVER have anything positive to say, which is not in anyway supportive of the great work that has already been done. As I have said before, true support comes when the team is struggling and needs it most, it is very easy to support a team that are doing well.[/p][/quote]I think some posters may have a bit more fore sight than others and can see potential down falls months ahead. I stated in January transfer window we needed to spend a bit and prepare a little for premier league. I got slated by the herd and what did we do? Signed billy sharp whose now at Forrest! Fail to plan, plan to fail. We struggled to get players in for 1 reason or other, I think it's schwi's negotiating technique. Keep adkins but schwi-man needs to sit in the background, button it and generate monies from corporate/ticket sales from ALL games and release funds to Adkins in january ghk230473
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9:06am Sun 21 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

It is very easy to support a winning team.
That is why there are MUFC shirts everywhere, and now MCFC + CFC.
I am a Saints supporter and have been for 35 years.
Win or lose, I will still be at the next game and will still be cheering on my team and club.
It is called support, try it !
It seems a shame, but go and look at Pompey, they are proper sh!te and going nowhere. Fans still turn up.
Are we not better than them.
Are we not better off than them ?
It is very easy to support a winning team. That is why there are MUFC shirts everywhere, and now MCFC + CFC. I am a Saints supporter and have been for 35 years. Win or lose, I will still be at the next game and will still be cheering on my team and club. It is called support, try it ! It seems a shame, but go and look at Pompey, they are proper sh!te and going nowhere. Fans still turn up. Are we not better than them. Are we not better off than them ? dadofmy3sons
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9:12am Sun 21 Oct 12

bluehants says...

Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season
doing nothing wrong in my eyes

:-)
Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season doing nothing wrong in my eyes :-) bluehants
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9:14am Sun 21 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.
most of the neg brigade are deaf blind and terminally dum at the mo... repeatedly stating faults we all are soooo aware of. Its just the way they go on and on and on baying for the merry go round as if they can't wait for us to fail so they can ram it down everyones throat again.. I've never met Mr Cortese and don't care whether some that have didn't like him. He had Markus Liebherr's trust and friendship in business and within his family.. We've come a long way in a short time.. two words spring to mind that have been so easily cast aside. Gratitude and Loyalty.

If he put the club on the market tomorrow they'd all say told you so now lets have a proper owner. If he sacked Nigel tomorrow and brought in Harry and harry took us down they'd wish silently for Nigel back.

KTF
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.[/p][/quote]most of the neg brigade are deaf blind and terminally dum at the mo... repeatedly stating faults we all are soooo aware of. Its just the way they go on and on and on baying for the merry go round as if they can't wait for us to fail so they can ram it down everyones throat again.. I've never met Mr Cortese and don't care whether some that have didn't like him. He had Markus Liebherr's trust and friendship in business and within his family.. We've come a long way in a short time.. two words spring to mind that have been so easily cast aside. Gratitude and Loyalty. If he put the club on the market tomorrow they'd all say told you so now lets have a proper owner. If he sacked Nigel tomorrow and brought in Harry and harry took us down they'd wish silently for Nigel back. KTF Tirau Dan
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9:16am Sun 21 Oct 12

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

St Retford wrote:
NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.
FROM SUNNY ZANTE

HE"LL PULL US THROUGH!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: NIGEL ADKINS RED AND WHITE ARMY.[/p][/quote]FROM SUNNY ZANTE HE"LL PULL US THROUGH!!!!! CHARLIE TAYLOR
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9:16am Sun 21 Oct 12

Lm once said hello to me says...

Don't be too quick to write off Nigel. He's achieved positive things in the last couple of seasons, he is still learning the Prem, as our the players. It's worth remembering that Lawrie Mac took over a Saints team in 5th position in November of his first season, then got us relegated! Saints supported their choice and the rest is History!
Don't be too quick to write off Nigel. He's achieved positive things in the last couple of seasons, he is still learning the Prem, as our the players. It's worth remembering that Lawrie Mac took over a Saints team in 5th position in November of his first season, then got us relegated! Saints supported their choice and the rest is History! Lm once said hello to me
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9:23am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluehants wrote:
Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season
doing nothing wrong in my eyes

:-)
Is Appleton better in some ways, considering what he has to work with, he does get results and you can understand why other Clubs are taking notice?
[quote][p][bold]bluehants[/bold] wrote: Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season doing nothing wrong in my eyes :-)[/p][/quote]Is Appleton better in some ways, considering what he has to work with, he does get results and you can understand why other Clubs are taking notice? OSPREYSAINT
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9:27am Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

Nigel knows this game inside out, as he says' you keep the ball out of your net and put it in the other one' the man is a tactical genius.
Nigel knows this game inside out, as he says' you keep the ball out of your net and put it in the other one' the man is a tactical genius. kent141
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9:31am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)
I have never claimed it as "my board", I just post an opinion and a few hints about alternatives, when the cavalry arrive as you say, why do you think that is? Is it because they may agree with me or that they think I am a nice chap to be humoured, I am not sure myself, but I would suggest that the moment you start posting personal attacks, rightly or wrongly, it puts peoples backs up and you get the resulting kick back, you may have a creditable point but it gets lost in the rhetoric, how many times do I have to ask you to show some respect and leave out the silliness, if you do that, the result you may find will be a lot more pleasant.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.[/p][/quote]Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???. But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives. This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be. But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)[/p][/quote]I have never claimed it as "my board", I just post an opinion and a few hints about alternatives, when the cavalry arrive as you say, why do you think that is? Is it because they may agree with me or that they think I am a nice chap to be humoured, I am not sure myself, but I would suggest that the moment you start posting personal attacks, rightly or wrongly, it puts peoples backs up and you get the resulting kick back, you may have a creditable point but it gets lost in the rhetoric, how many times do I have to ask you to show some respect and leave out the silliness, if you do that, the result you may find will be a lot more pleasant. OSPREYSAINT
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9:32am Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.
And me :0)
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Im happy with Nige.[/p][/quote]And me :0) kent141
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9:41am Sun 21 Oct 12

SFCOLDBOY says...

I have read all of the posts on here from yesterday.
Couldn't do it before, too gutted.
I listened to Solents' after game interview with NA,he was lost for words.
1) Is this level too high for NA?
2) Why his insistence on playing 433?
3)Has Lambert instantly become lame?
4)Why not try 442 it worked before.The worse thing that can happen is that we might lose.
5)Why did we buy DeRidder? He has been never given a decent run in the team.
This list of questions can go on.

Unfortunately I think Nigel time is coming to an end if he doesn't start to get to grips with these questions and more.
Anyway, pessamism over.

Next Saturday we have to lift our selves and our team to stay in the league we belong.
It's been a long road back to where we are lets all pull together to make sure we stay.
COYR
I have read all of the posts on here from yesterday. Couldn't do it before, too gutted. I listened to Solents' after game interview with NA,he was lost for words. 1) Is this level too high for NA? 2) Why his insistence on playing 433? 3)Has Lambert instantly become lame? 4)Why not try 442 it worked before.The worse thing that can happen is that we might lose. 5)Why did we buy DeRidder? He has been never given a decent run in the team. This list of questions can go on. Unfortunately I think Nigel time is coming to an end if he doesn't start to get to grips with these questions and more. Anyway, pessamism over. Next Saturday we have to lift our selves and our team to stay in the league we belong. It's been a long road back to where we are lets all pull together to make sure we stay. COYR SFCOLDBOY
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9:41am Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
1/. Saints will stay up.
2/. Keep Nigel he is a great guy.
3/. I have loved the football we have played since Nigel came, win, lose or draw it is great to watch.
4/. If the fans stay with the team for 90 minutes + we can beat Spurs.
5/. Bye breakfast is ready.
Number 4 may be a big issue, most fans think the game is over at 80 minutes.
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: 1/. Saints will stay up. 2/. Keep Nigel he is a great guy. 3/. I have loved the football we have played since Nigel came, win, lose or draw it is great to watch. 4/. If the fans stay with the team for 90 minutes + we can beat Spurs. 5/. Bye breakfast is ready.[/p][/quote]Number 4 may be a big issue, most fans think the game is over at 80 minutes. kent141
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9:42am Sun 21 Oct 12

german saint says...

owen thesaints... wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
well said, i think we need someone to come on board in an advisory role to NA, sacking him (which i sadly think might happen) would be a terrible decision, it would surely unsettle the players at a time we need total focus in what they have been doing so well, lets face it, the team and management are ALL on a huge learning curve. I firmly believe its not too late to turn things round and finish this first season back in the top flight without being relegated. I am not saying it will be easy, but we've done it before. We as fans of SFC should be proud, focused and totally behind the team AND management, Nigel frustrates me at times, but he is new to this level of football and i think when (and i do hope it's soon!) he gets it right he will prove all the doubters wrong. Believe in the club that we all support and ffs SUPPORT them...COYR STID
george graham would be a good shout to help nigel out..... defence was his thing...... coyr
[quote][p][bold]owen thesaints...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]well said, i think we need someone to come on board in an advisory role to NA, sacking him (which i sadly think might happen) would be a terrible decision, it would surely unsettle the players at a time we need total focus in what they have been doing so well, lets face it, the team and management are ALL on a huge learning curve. I firmly believe its not too late to turn things round and finish this first season back in the top flight without being relegated. I am not saying it will be easy, but we've done it before. We as fans of SFC should be proud, focused and totally behind the team AND management, Nigel frustrates me at times, but he is new to this level of football and i think when (and i do hope it's soon!) he gets it right he will prove all the doubters wrong. Believe in the club that we all support and ffs SUPPORT them...COYR STID[/p][/quote]george graham would be a good shout to help nigel out..... defence was his thing...... coyr german saint
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9:42am Sun 21 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

kent141 wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.
And me :0)
And me
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Im happy with Nige.[/p][/quote]And me :0)[/p][/quote]And me Abbey Saint
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9:43am Sun 21 Oct 12

crusti says...

mbetts wrote:
Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football.

We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly.

There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.
Top Post, it says what i wanted to say.
[quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football. We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly. There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.[/p][/quote]Top Post, it says what i wanted to say. crusti
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9:43am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.
Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.
That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.
If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.
Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???.
But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives.
This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be.
But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)
Sorry you feel that way, I say it, as I see it, doesn't mean that I am always right, but if I have got it wrong I like to see reasoned argument to dispute my view, all some do is get personal and abusive and even if they are right, their argument gets lost. I am not blind to the problems, I can be as critical as anyone, but I refuse to slag off NC without categorical eveidence, not based on hearsay and mischief from people who have no idea of the facts. I support NA 100% because with the right tools he will get the job done, but right now he needs more help he cannot do it on his own, the Premier is a much bigger kettle of fish, we are still using lower League tactics and they are NOT working.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The gang weren't on here because we were at the match.[/p][/quote]Which match seed, west ham saints or down at the park with your new chums.[/p][/quote]That was either a poor attempt at a joke or an unworthy slur, good job that you are1,600 clicks away I'm thinking.[/p][/quote]If you had read my 10:51 p.m. post you would have guessed which game they were at.[/p][/quote]Ain't it funny Os, anyone dare to disagree with any of the gangs opinions they are called a skunt???. But if anyone from outside the circle dares to suggest the same the calvary arrives. This is not your board Osprey, it's for everyone and there will be differences of opinion, you may not agree with some of these, you may feel that some fans are not as loyal as they should be. But you really need to respect some of these opinions (and the posters)[/p][/quote]Sorry you feel that way, I say it, as I see it, doesn't mean that I am always right, but if I have got it wrong I like to see reasoned argument to dispute my view, all some do is get personal and abusive and even if they are right, their argument gets lost. I am not blind to the problems, I can be as critical as anyone, but I refuse to slag off NC without categorical eveidence, not based on hearsay and mischief from people who have no idea of the facts. I support NA 100% because with the right tools he will get the job done, but right now he needs more help he cannot do it on his own, the Premier is a much bigger kettle of fish, we are still using lower League tactics and they are NOT working. OSPREYSAINT
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9:45am Sun 21 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

Like many on here I have supported this great club since the days of the great Terry Paine and then all the ups and downs along the way.

IMO this is the toughest Prem division in many years, chock full of the world,s best players and with Whinger, Fergie Moyes some excellent mgrs who have bought or brought theirs clubs success.

We ve been spoilt with the last 2 seasons of win, win, win and losing hurts but get a grip !!

Stop all this negative sh&t and either turn up on Sunday and SUPPORT the Saints or STF Up.!!
Like many on here I have supported this great club since the days of the great Terry Paine and then all the ups and downs along the way. IMO this is the toughest Prem division in many years, chock full of the world,s best players and with Whinger, Fergie Moyes some excellent mgrs who have bought or brought theirs clubs success. We ve been spoilt with the last 2 seasons of win, win, win and losing hurts but get a grip !! Stop all this negative sh&t and either turn up on Sunday and SUPPORT the Saints or STF Up.!! redsnapper
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9:45am Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

kent141 wrote:
Nigel knows this game inside out, as he says' you keep the ball out of your net and put it in the other one' the man is a tactical genius.
I will add his interviews always make me feel uplifted and put a smile on my face :0)
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: Nigel knows this game inside out, as he says' you keep the ball out of your net and put it in the other one' the man is a tactical genius.[/p][/quote]I will add his interviews always make me feel uplifted and put a smile on my face :0) kent141
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9:50am Sun 21 Oct 12

JohnItaly says...

kent141 wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.
And me :0)
Whilst many of us are expressing our views on the pros and cons of NA staying at the helm surely the big question is whether-or-not the players themselves still have faith and confidence in NA. If not situation will not improve quickly. If, as some are arguing, NC has too much say in team selection and the players, as well as NA, find this interference unacceptable then the situation could deteriorate very quickly. Two events give me cause to believe matters behind the scene are not good. MLT outburst against NC and on reading a post that according to sources at Scunthorpe NA no happy at Billy Sharp being loaned out. Worrying times.
[quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Im happy with Nige.[/p][/quote]And me :0)[/p][/quote]Whilst many of us are expressing our views on the pros and cons of NA staying at the helm surely the big question is whether-or-not the players themselves still have faith and confidence in NA. If not situation will not improve quickly. If, as some are arguing, NC has too much say in team selection and the players, as well as NA, find this interference unacceptable then the situation could deteriorate very quickly. Two events give me cause to believe matters behind the scene are not good. MLT outburst against NC and on reading a post that according to sources at Scunthorpe NA no happy at Billy Sharp being loaned out. Worrying times. JohnItaly
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9:50am Sun 21 Oct 12

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

It's sad that some people are either spineless & have no bottle, or are so arrogant & self-opinionated thay they cannot support their team (if it is their team) when the going gets tough.

NA & NC have earnt our respect & support for the last two years, so I think some people need to either man up or shut up.

The season isn't decided after 8 games, & a Manager's reputation neither.

I would hate to be in a team with some of the posters on here when times get tough. They'd be the first to either bale out or blame someone else.

If your support for the team is so flaky & your patience so short, I suggest you either go & support another team or take a long hard look at yourselves & grow a pair.

COYR!
It's sad that some people are either spineless & have no bottle, or are so arrogant & self-opinionated thay they cannot support their team (if it is their team) when the going gets tough. NA & NC have earnt our respect & support for the last two years, so I think some people need to either man up or shut up. The season isn't decided after 8 games, & a Manager's reputation neither. I would hate to be in a team with some of the posters on here when times get tough. They'd be the first to either bale out or blame someone else. If your support for the team is so flaky & your patience so short, I suggest you either go & support another team or take a long hard look at yourselves & grow a pair. COYR! Rob The Saint NOT in NZ
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9:51am Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.
Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.[/p][/quote]Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better. If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team. None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs. hedge end bob
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9:52am Sun 21 Oct 12

Folkestone Saint says...

|And the alternative to Nige is ???? at least he is under no illusions that he is safe but he will get my support on sunday from the Northam as the last thing we need is negative vibe's from the supporters
|And the alternative to Nige is ???? at least he is under no illusions that he is safe but he will get my support on sunday from the Northam as the last thing we need is negative vibe's from the supporters Folkestone Saint
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9:58am Sun 21 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Osprey, I think you may be getting me mixed up with someone else, I've never really had a conversation with you here and you have never asked me show some respect and leave out the silliness.

You do post an awful lot so It's probably likely you got the wrong man.

I normally end my post's with IMHO to avoid getting into silly arguments.

Anyway I think we both have a common goal for our team, just our thoughs of how it can be achieved differs.
Here is my virtual hand.
Osprey, I think you may be getting me mixed up with someone else, I've never really had a conversation with you here and you have never asked me show some respect and leave out the silliness. You do post an awful lot so It's probably likely you got the wrong man. I normally end my post's with IMHO to avoid getting into silly arguments. Anyway I think we both have a common goal for our team, just our thoughs of how it can be achieved differs. Here is my virtual hand. costa gaz
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10:01am Sun 21 Oct 12

Linesman says...

hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.
Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.
Quite right Hedge End. If you did not go to the match and only saw it on TV, you are not entitled to have an opinion.

The manager has been at training, watching the ability of each player, and with that knowledge, selects a team to win, or at least, not lose.

Once the players get on the pitch, the Manager has no responsibility.

He gives the team a pep-talk when they come in on level terms at half-time, and sends them out with fresh instructions.

Once more, they get on the pitch and he has no responsibility for what they do or do not do.

He can jump up and down on his cap, as Bally used to do. He can go red in the face like Redknapp used to do. He can rant and rave, and kick the water bucket, but he has no responsibility.

So, Hedge End, as he has no responsibility during the 90 minutes, whch to many is the most important time in the week, why is there a need for a manager?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.[/p][/quote]Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better. If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team. None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.[/p][/quote]Quite right Hedge End. If you did not go to the match and only saw it on TV, you are not entitled to have an opinion. The manager has been at training, watching the ability of each player, and with that knowledge, selects a team to win, or at least, not lose. Once the players get on the pitch, the Manager has no responsibility. He gives the team a pep-talk when they come in on level terms at half-time, and sends them out with fresh instructions. Once more, they get on the pitch and he has no responsibility for what they do or do not do. He can jump up and down on his cap, as Bally used to do. He can go red in the face like Redknapp used to do. He can rant and rave, and kick the water bucket, but he has no responsibility. So, Hedge End, as he has no responsibility during the 90 minutes, whch to many is the most important time in the week, why is there a need for a manager? Linesman
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10:04am Sun 21 Oct 12

Egomaniac says...

I posted here some weeks ago saying that I believed Mr Adkins was out of his depth at this level. All I got was abuse for my opinion!

Well, I was right! I have long admired Nigel for getting us up from League 1 to the Premiership - but that is his limit.

Nigel has to go now. Every week we ship an average of three goals per game - four again yesterday. Over the last eight games, there has been absolutely no change or improvement whatever.

It is patently clear that Nigel has no idea what to do, so please Nigel, do the decent thing and resign - before you are pushed. That way you will keep your dignity, which you deserve.

I also hope those happy clappy Nigel fans who slated my earlier views now have the decency to apologise - but I doubt it.

I am not anti Adkins! He has done us proud, and I wish him well - but this level is a different game, and totally beyond him.
I posted here some weeks ago saying that I believed Mr Adkins was out of his depth at this level. All I got was abuse for my opinion! Well, I was right! I have long admired Nigel for getting us up from League 1 to the Premiership - but that is his limit. Nigel has to go now. Every week we ship an average of three goals per game - four again yesterday. Over the last eight games, there has been absolutely no change or improvement whatever. It is patently clear that Nigel has no idea what to do, so please Nigel, do the decent thing and resign - before you are pushed. That way you will keep your dignity, which you deserve. I also hope those happy clappy Nigel fans who slated my earlier views now have the decency to apologise - but I doubt it. I am not anti Adkins! He has done us proud, and I wish him well - but this level is a different game, and totally beyond him. Egomaniac
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10:10am Sun 21 Oct 12

batesieboy says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
Well said, Dan.I am horrified by some of the comments from the light-weights on here.If anything, Saints are victims of their own success. I thought we would finish 7th or 8th in the Championship last season...maybe things would have been better if we had, improving and upgrading in the time given by the 5-year plan set out. Because we are a year early, things have had to be done in a rush, and the main priority, the defence, was, apart from Clyne, mystifyingly, not strengthened considerably. I don't know, and nor does anybody else on here, why that was.If we do go back down to the Championship, it won't be the end of the world. We just start again, but stronger.So toughen up, you lily-livered fair-weather "supporters."
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]Well said, Dan.I am horrified by some of the comments from the light-weights on here.If anything, Saints are victims of their own success. I thought we would finish 7th or 8th in the Championship last season...maybe things would have been better if we had, improving and upgrading in the time given by the 5-year plan set out. Because we are a year early, things have had to be done in a rush, and the main priority, the defence, was, apart from Clyne, mystifyingly, not strengthened considerably. I don't know, and nor does anybody else on here, why that was.If we do go back down to the Championship, it won't be the end of the world. We just start again, but stronger.So toughen up, you lily-livered fair-weather "supporters." batesieboy
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10:14am Sun 21 Oct 12

jerseysaint says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper.
Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record.
Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head.
I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it!
When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out.
At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then!
The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager!
Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.
Excellent comment
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Before the Season started I said Saints needed 2 good defenders and a good goalkeeper. Three games in to the Season I pleaded for an experienced coach to be brought in to help NA, I suggested Hoddle because he is a superb tactician under whom Saints had their best defensive record. Last week I said that Saints would lose to the Hammers by 2 clear goals, I was wrong it was 3 and that following this defeat there would be calls for NA's head. I'm not clairvoyant but having watched football for many years the writing was on the wall --- only the blind happy clappies would deny it! When, after a successful period at work, I found the going a bit tough and I wasn't getting the best results, my Boss didn't fire me, he hired a management consultant to help me out. At first I resented this, my pride was hurt, but I soon learnt that the management consultant knew many things I didn't and under his mentoring we turned things around, he went on to pastures new and I stayed with the business which was more successful thanks to the wisdom and foresight of my Boss --- his belief was good people don't become bad overnight and everyone needs a helping hand now and then! The worst thing that could happen to Saints is for NC to sack NA --- for God's sake bring in an experienced coach to help NA, NOW ---- what have we go to lose? --it must be better than sacking and paying off NA and the upheaval of starting a new manager! Unfortunately, I don't think NC has the wisdom and foresight of my old boss and I fear NA will be gone within a fortnight, which will be a tragedy.[/p][/quote]Excellent comment jerseysaint
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10:17am Sun 21 Oct 12

batesieboy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluehants wrote:
Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season
doing nothing wrong in my eyes

:-)
Is Appleton better in some ways, considering what he has to work with, he does get results and you can understand why other Clubs are taking notice?
Don't talk rubbish! Skates are still as usual, wildly over-spending, gambling their way out. Other League One clubs, as their managers have pointed out, have to operate within a thing called a "budget".That's what should be taken notice of!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluehants[/bold] wrote: Keep Adkins at st fairys for at least the rest of the season doing nothing wrong in my eyes :-)[/p][/quote]Is Appleton better in some ways, considering what he has to work with, he does get results and you can understand why other Clubs are taking notice?[/p][/quote]Don't talk rubbish! Skates are still as usual, wildly over-spending, gambling their way out. Other League One clubs, as their managers have pointed out, have to operate within a thing called a "budget".That's what should be taken notice of! batesieboy
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10:17am Sun 21 Oct 12

crusti says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
I cannot see why the happy clappies are so opposed to NC appointing an experienced coach, on a temporary basis to assist NA in tightening the defence.
There is no one at St Mary's with PL experience either on the pitch or in the dug out.
What is there to lose?
The alternatives are to leave things as they are and hope for the best or sack NA and appoint a new manager.
Either option would be very risky, I can't see things getting better on their own accord and a new manager would need time to implement his style of play and also win the hearts and minds of the players, which NA already has.
The past few weeks have seen a loan negotiated, work stopped at Staplewood, programme sellers sacked
critism of the ticketing and buffet arrangements, corporate supporters rebelling against seating changes Saints conceding a record number of goals in the PL and the manager publicly wondering how much longer he's got !!
What has our illustrious Chairman got to say about all this to the fans who pay his wages? ---- NOTHING! --- and there my friends is the nub of the problem!
Bookies are offering shorter odds on NC sacking NA than they did on Frankel!
Nigel was a goalie so he should understand how to organise defence.
lets hope the club give Nige lots more time.
As for a defencive coach what about Jason Dodd, (saints u18 coach)PL experience, let him have a crack at sorting out our defence, they guy is saints through and through and knows how to defend.
I`d still like one or two new options in defence
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: I cannot see why the happy clappies are so opposed to NC appointing an experienced coach, on a temporary basis to assist NA in tightening the defence. There is no one at St Mary's with PL experience either on the pitch or in the dug out. What is there to lose? The alternatives are to leave things as they are and hope for the best or sack NA and appoint a new manager. Either option would be very risky, I can't see things getting better on their own accord and a new manager would need time to implement his style of play and also win the hearts and minds of the players, which NA already has. The past few weeks have seen a loan negotiated, work stopped at Staplewood, programme sellers sacked critism of the ticketing and buffet arrangements, corporate supporters rebelling against seating changes Saints conceding a record number of goals in the PL and the manager publicly wondering how much longer he's got !! What has our illustrious Chairman got to say about all this to the fans who pay his wages? ---- NOTHING! --- and there my friends is the nub of the problem! Bookies are offering shorter odds on NC sacking NA than they did on Frankel![/p][/quote]Nigel was a goalie so he should understand how to organise defence. lets hope the club give Nige lots more time. As for a defencive coach what about Jason Dodd, (saints u18 coach)PL experience, let him have a crack at sorting out our defence, they guy is saints through and through and knows how to defend. I`d still like one or two new options in defence crusti
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10:18am Sun 21 Oct 12

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

My god, there's another one!

Sack Nigel you say - then what................
..................?

So far the alternatives suggested include Harry Redknapp, Kevin Keegan, Kenny Dalglish or Glen Hoddle. I rest my case.

It's ridiculous that the first time a club has a dodgy spell, the knee-jerk call is always "sack the manager!"

We need joined up thinking for the long term, a vision of where the club wants to go, calm men at the helm - oh, hold on that's what we've got already - doh!
My god, there's another one! Sack Nigel you say - then what................ ..................? So far the alternatives suggested include Harry Redknapp, Kevin Keegan, Kenny Dalglish or Glen Hoddle. I rest my case. It's ridiculous that the first time a club has a dodgy spell, the knee-jerk call is always "sack the manager!" We need joined up thinking for the long term, a vision of where the club wants to go, calm men at the helm - oh, hold on that's what we've got already - doh! Rob The Saint NOT in NZ
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10:18am Sun 21 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.
Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.
Thanks for the advice and councilling hedge end bob.
A couple of things.... are you saying that when the team does well (1st half yesterday) it is down to the manager.

But when the team are abysmal (2nd half) it is down to the players.

You think I should still support and encourage when things go wrong, but in the second half of your post you have had a go at the keeper and the player in CAPITAL LETTERS.

Have i read your post wrong because I'm not to sure I am getting what you are trying to point out.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.[/p][/quote]Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better. If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team. None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the advice and councilling hedge end bob. A couple of things.... are you saying that when the team does well (1st half yesterday) it is down to the manager. But when the team are abysmal (2nd half) it is down to the players. You think I should still support and encourage when things go wrong, but in the second half of your post you have had a go at the keeper and the player in CAPITAL LETTERS. Have i read your post wrong because I'm not to sure I am getting what you are trying to point out. costa gaz
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10:22am Sun 21 Oct 12

Peachiesleftfoot says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.
Agreed, and what wise words from Dans Nan. Too many people post with emotions high after the game, we need to remember the journey.
Keep the faith COYR!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.[/p][/quote]Agreed, and what wise words from Dans Nan. Too many people post with emotions high after the game, we need to remember the journey. Keep the faith COYR! Peachiesleftfoot
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10:24am Sun 21 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

seany1966 wrote:
4-4-2 ... Say no more
Please don't!
[quote][p][bold]seany1966[/bold] wrote: 4-4-2 ... Say no more[/p][/quote]Please don't! Strasbourg Saint
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10:26am Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
kent141 wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
Im happy with Nige.
And me :0)
And me
"Me too"...come on every negative supporter, calling for NA to go when we reached the Prem to soon anyway is like complaining the Champagne is only Moet intead of Crystal at a party we should not even be at...we are still ahead of schedule FFS.
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kent141[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Im happy with Nige.[/p][/quote]And me :0)[/p][/quote]And me[/p][/quote]"Me too"...come on every negative supporter, calling for NA to go when we reached the Prem to soon anyway is like complaining the Champagne is only Moet intead of Crystal at a party we should not even be at...we are still ahead of schedule FFS. warrens 76
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10:29am Sun 21 Oct 12

Peachiesleftfoot says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.
Great post.
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts. There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January. There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right. In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term. Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts. Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well. Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.[/p][/quote]Great post. Peachiesleftfoot
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10:31am Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..
I think we are still the ones laughing..unless you are deranged..
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..[/p][/quote]I think we are still the ones laughing..unless you are deranged.. warrens 76
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10:32am Sun 21 Oct 12

billythesaint says...

Who is our defensive coach? Replace him.
Take out Fonte, put Yoshida at centre back where we need him.
Stick Luke Shaw at left back if Fox is out. Tadda! Points come on the board. It's not rocket science. If the defense is rubbish, change it and change whoever teaches them to defend like schmucks. Watch a replay of all our goals conceded. Fonte is at fault for at least half of them. I liked him but this season he's proved a liability. That's a stone wall fact, look at the replays. He rescued a point against Fulham but he's lost us a hell of a lot more. Keep Adkins but have a gentle word in his ear that Lambert is a bit, just a bit better than Guly!
Who is our defensive coach? Replace him. Take out Fonte, put Yoshida at centre back where we need him. Stick Luke Shaw at left back if Fox is out. Tadda! Points come on the board. It's not rocket science. If the defense is rubbish, change it and change whoever teaches them to defend like schmucks. Watch a replay of all our goals conceded. Fonte is at fault for at least half of them. I liked him but this season he's proved a liability. That's a stone wall fact, look at the replays. He rescued a point against Fulham but he's lost us a hell of a lot more. Keep Adkins but have a gentle word in his ear that Lambert is a bit, just a bit better than Guly! billythesaint
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10:36am Sun 21 Oct 12

boilerman says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
I have read all of the posts on here from yesterday.
Couldn't do it before, too gutted.
I listened to Solents' after game interview with NA,he was lost for words.
1) Is this level too high for NA?
2) Why his insistence on playing 433?
3)Has Lambert instantly become lame?
4)Why not try 442 it worked before.The worse thing that can happen is that we might lose.
5)Why did we buy DeRidder? He has been never given a decent run in the team.
This list of questions can go on.

Unfortunately I think Nigel time is coming to an end if he doesn't start to get to grips with these questions and more.
Anyway, pessamism over.

Next Saturday we have to lift our selves and our team to stay in the league we belong.
It's been a long road back to where we are lets all pull together to make sure we stay.
COYR
Tend to agree with most of what you say,I think Nigels subs are off the mark, against united and Fulham we were winning and he changed the team and the result, against Everton and yesterday we were behind yet he delayed making changes.
I have faith in Nigel but he has got to look back at previous games and learn from his mistakes.
Another thing whose team is it Nigels or corteses ? I hope it's Nigels because if not his time is nearly up before he gets the chop.
What I would hate to happen is for Nigel to get axed for corteses decisions and interference in team selection.
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: I have read all of the posts on here from yesterday. Couldn't do it before, too gutted. I listened to Solents' after game interview with NA,he was lost for words. 1) Is this level too high for NA? 2) Why his insistence on playing 433? 3)Has Lambert instantly become lame? 4)Why not try 442 it worked before.The worse thing that can happen is that we might lose. 5)Why did we buy DeRidder? He has been never given a decent run in the team. This list of questions can go on. Unfortunately I think Nigel time is coming to an end if he doesn't start to get to grips with these questions and more. Anyway, pessamism over. Next Saturday we have to lift our selves and our team to stay in the league we belong. It's been a long road back to where we are lets all pull together to make sure we stay. COYR[/p][/quote]Tend to agree with most of what you say,I think Nigels subs are off the mark, against united and Fulham we were winning and he changed the team and the result, against Everton and yesterday we were behind yet he delayed making changes. I have faith in Nigel but he has got to look back at previous games and learn from his mistakes. Another thing whose team is it Nigels or corteses ? I hope it's Nigels because if not his time is nearly up before he gets the chop. What I would hate to happen is for Nigel to get axed for corteses decisions and interference in team selection. boilerman
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10:39am Sun 21 Oct 12

BigD69 says...

Ask yourself.. How much premiership experience do we have from grass roots to boardroom. Adkins is on a learning curve just like the whole set up. I have mentioned before the season started on here the importance of experience at the highest level needed to get us through the first 3 seasons back in the big time, and quickly got slated for it. To progress and improve we need experience, signings have been good but the likes of players such as Silvestra, Michael Owen and others give you experience for the most important 2 or 3 hours during the week.. Forget about the 90 minutes on Saturday or Sunday. They have the knowledge of training sessions at the highest level to advice Adkins. Could be a case of them saying, Nigel... When we won the title we defended this way and had these training regimes... That is why they are worth paying the money. Not for 20 minutes they may play on a Saturday !!!
Ask yourself.. How much premiership experience do we have from grass roots to boardroom. Adkins is on a learning curve just like the whole set up. I have mentioned before the season started on here the importance of experience at the highest level needed to get us through the first 3 seasons back in the big time, and quickly got slated for it. To progress and improve we need experience, signings have been good but the likes of players such as Silvestra, Michael Owen and others give you experience for the most important 2 or 3 hours during the week.. Forget about the 90 minutes on Saturday or Sunday. They have the knowledge of training sessions at the highest level to advice Adkins. Could be a case of them saying, Nigel... When we won the title we defended this way and had these training regimes... That is why they are worth paying the money. Not for 20 minutes they may play on a Saturday !!! BigD69
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10:42am Sun 21 Oct 12

insane saint says...

hey there seems to be a lot of p155ed of peeps on here. i have read all above and have come to the conclusion.

1 keep him
2 play lambo
3 the fans need to stay 110% behind the team
4 make the right subs at the right time

NOW COME ON WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE AND ONLY CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST

WE SUPPORT OUR TEAM WITH UNYIELDING LOVE

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON

WE STAND AS ONE WIN, LOOSE OR DRAW

WE WILL SMASH SPUDS NEXT SUNDAY

COME ON YOU REDS

(PS. wear the white shirt on Sunday you never know it might change our luck.)

allways a plaice for possitivity,,,,
hey there seems to be a lot of p155ed of peeps on here. i have read all above and have come to the conclusion. 1 keep him 2 play lambo 3 the fans need to stay 110% behind the team 4 make the right subs at the right time NOW COME ON WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE AND ONLY CLUB ON THE SOUTH COAST WE SUPPORT OUR TEAM WITH UNYIELDING LOVE WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON WE STAND AS ONE WIN, LOOSE OR DRAW WE WILL SMASH SPUDS NEXT SUNDAY COME ON YOU REDS (PS. wear the white shirt on Sunday you never know it might change our luck.) allways a plaice for possitivity,,,, insane saint
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10:45am Sun 21 Oct 12

coxfordsaint says...

I think that N A has made some very bad choices, in subs / and the players he omits from games. We have one of the most prolific goal scorers who now seems to find himself struggling to get a place.I dont believe for one minute Lambert cannot last the full 90 mins, Yesterday we played a team that was promoted from the championship so they were not an established premier team only a team on par with us. But we collapsed in the second half,.Who ever chose our pre season signings made some major **** ups, letting sharpe go and bringing in players only of the same or less quality. The 12million we paid for Ramirez i think in my opinion was a planned thing by the chairman,He knows other prem clubs wanted this player and if he turns out to have a good season with us i think we will be back to being a selling cluband he will be sold for profit next year.I do not think for a second that Ramirez chose our club over the likes of liverpool / spurs for any other reason then to be put on display.I would say he is here just as a money maker. .As for NA he has been good, but to be fair he did take over a relatively made team by pardew. NA has kept the good football going but trying to do it the Brian Clough way of dont worrry how many goals we let, in, as long as we score one more only works if you have the best players up front actually on the field .I like many other saints fans could not believe the amount spent on forwards when we desperately needed defenders, our defence was dodgy in the lower leagues.I know we all become managers and all pick our own teams, but more often then not the fans are right. He must know when he fields the team we are going to struggle, and that goals will pour in.I would certainly not want Rednapp back. but i really think no matter what we say cortese has his own agenda on the players we signed, and how long NA will be here, and i am sure he will be looking for a new manager very soon.I think either NA does not have full control over on the field affairs or maybe NA is just, as a lot of our players out of their depth in this league..Spurs next week what will be the plans for stopping the likes of defoe, lennon etc.
I think that N A has made some very bad choices, in subs / and the players he omits from games. We have one of the most prolific goal scorers who now seems to find himself struggling to get a place.I dont believe for one minute Lambert cannot last the full 90 mins, Yesterday we played a team that was promoted from the championship so they were not an established premier team only a team on par with us. But we collapsed in the second half,.Who ever chose our pre season signings made some major **** ups, letting sharpe go and bringing in players only of the same or less quality. The 12million we paid for Ramirez i think in my opinion was a planned thing by the chairman,He knows other prem clubs wanted this player and if he turns out to have a good season with us i think we will be back to being a selling cluband he will be sold for profit next year.I do not think for a second that Ramirez chose our club over the likes of liverpool / spurs for any other reason then to be put on display.I would say he is here just as a money maker. .As for NA he has been good, but to be fair he did take over a relatively made team by pardew. NA has kept the good football going but trying to do it the Brian Clough way of dont worrry how many goals we let, in, as long as we score one more only works if you have the best players up front actually on the field .I like many other saints fans could not believe the amount spent on forwards when we desperately needed defenders, our defence was dodgy in the lower leagues.I know we all become managers and all pick our own teams, but more often then not the fans are right. He must know when he fields the team we are going to struggle, and that goals will pour in.I would certainly not want Rednapp back. but i really think no matter what we say cortese has his own agenda on the players we signed, and how long NA will be here, and i am sure he will be looking for a new manager very soon.I think either NA does not have full control over on the field affairs or maybe NA is just, as a lot of our players out of their depth in this league..Spurs next week what will be the plans for stopping the likes of defoe, lennon etc. coxfordsaint
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10:48am Sun 21 Oct 12

Puddletown Saint says...

Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR Puddletown Saint
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10:50am Sun 21 Oct 12

Confucious says...

I'd like to see more sympathy for the moaners, doom-mongers and head-choppers on here.

Come on guys, they've had an awful time of it for three years. After all that sunshine, let them enjoy the rain.

Obviously there is a danger with these people that they let failure go to their heads, but bear in mind failure may well be the only thing they are a success at.

Remember too that for these people, who never have and never will have to do it themselves, nothing is impossible.

By registering their gloom in the tough times they can stake their position not only as the wise fathers of any future success but also as the blameless orphans of any failure.
I'd like to see more sympathy for the moaners, doom-mongers and head-choppers on here. Come on guys, they've had an awful time of it for three years. After all that sunshine, let them enjoy the rain. Obviously there is a danger with these people that they let failure go to their heads, but bear in mind failure may well be the only thing they are a success at. Remember too that for these people, who never have and never will have to do it themselves, nothing is impossible. By registering their gloom in the tough times they can stake their position not only as the wise fathers of any future success but also as the blameless orphans of any failure. Confucious
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10:51am Sun 21 Oct 12

tugboat says...

Difficult times require total support and nothing else. To watch the team you worship becoming the whipping boys of this division makes any supporter squirm.
To change the manager now would be madness,back to pinning the tail on the donkey again.No thanks
We have to stick with him,I dont see anyone else turning the current squad overnight into world beaters.
Everyone is entitled to be miffed and equally entitled to an opinion,I am a bit shocked that he has started rotating even the keepers ! The only way that back four is going to improve is to settle it down and leave it,communication seems to be an issue back there.
Id like to see someone sat in front of them to take the first knock,outside the box, to buy them time,teams seem to be running through a non existant midfield.
I admire his ,"were sticking to our principles stance" hes a proud man,but a clever man knows when hes wrong.
The man at the back said everyone attack,doesnt work in the prem were not good enough yet to be that arrogant.
The 2/3 cb,s have let this club down so far and need to play for the manager or they will get him sacked.
Isnt there a free agent CB training with Man U at the moment with shed loads of experienced we could grab in the short term ? Silvestre.
Part of the problem is ,everyone is on this mythical learning curve ,trouble is its steeper than lances hill.
But we have to stick together,no other option.
Difficult times require total support and nothing else. To watch the team you worship becoming the whipping boys of this division makes any supporter squirm. To change the manager now would be madness,back to pinning the tail on the donkey again.No thanks We have to stick with him,I dont see anyone else turning the current squad overnight into world beaters. Everyone is entitled to be miffed and equally entitled to an opinion,I am a bit shocked that he has started rotating even the keepers ! The only way that back four is going to improve is to settle it down and leave it,communication seems to be an issue back there. Id like to see someone sat in front of them to take the first knock,outside the box, to buy them time,teams seem to be running through a non existant midfield. I admire his ,"were sticking to our principles stance" hes a proud man,but a clever man knows when hes wrong. The man at the back said everyone attack,doesnt work in the prem were not good enough yet to be that arrogant. The 2/3 cb,s have let this club down so far and need to play for the manager or they will get him sacked. Isnt there a free agent CB training with Man U at the moment with shed loads of experienced we could grab in the short term ? Silvestre. Part of the problem is ,everyone is on this mythical learning curve ,trouble is its steeper than lances hill. But we have to stick together,no other option. tugboat
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10:52am Sun 21 Oct 12

Velleity says...

My prediction, for what it's worth.

NC will have more patience than many of you lot. At the end of the season, Nigel will still be our manager. We will be low mid-table (12/13/14). I will come on this site and read this thread (I've only skimmed it, as it's too depressing) and ask everyone who asked for NA's head to apologise.

My prediction may well be utterly wrong (on my previous 49 years of form form that's a definite possibility) but I'll hang it out here.

By all means try to insult me as a "happy clapper". It's not an insult - I'm more than happy to clap the team I support. Yes, there's work needs doing and yes, I trust in NA to be able to do that work.
My prediction, for what it's worth. NC will have more patience than many of you lot. At the end of the season, Nigel will still be our manager. We will be low mid-table (12/13/14). I will come on this site and read this thread (I've only skimmed it, as it's too depressing) and ask everyone who asked for NA's head to apologise. My prediction may well be utterly wrong (on my previous 49 years of form form that's a definite possibility) but I'll hang it out here. By all means try to insult me as a "happy clapper". It's not an insult - I'm more than happy to clap the team I support. Yes, there's work needs doing and yes, I trust in NA to be able to do that work. Velleity
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10:54am Sun 21 Oct 12

Velleity says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
1. No
2. No
3. Sometimes
4. No

So we don't ALL agree to this. Don't speak for me.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR[/p][/quote]1. No 2. No 3. Sometimes 4. No So we don't ALL agree to this. Don't speak for me. Velleity
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10:57am Sun 21 Oct 12

Velleity says...

And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. " Velleity
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11:04am Sun 21 Oct 12

saintmark1977 says...

What is it with modern day Saints fans?

Two seasons ago we were in what I remember as the old Third Divsion.Now we are in the First Division and it is a struggle. What on earth did you expect?

Many fans now wish to sack the manager who got us to where we are because he has not brought instant success. They want to replace him with managers who are out of a job because they failed in their previous employment. How would such action benefit us?

If we only have one season in the Premiership it will not be the end of the world. Rather that in a stable club structure than a return to our previous attempts at the manager merry go round and all the problems that went with it.
What is it with modern day Saints fans? Two seasons ago we were in what I remember as the old Third Divsion.Now we are in the First Division and it is a struggle. What on earth did you expect? Many fans now wish to sack the manager who got us to where we are because he has not brought instant success. They want to replace him with managers who are out of a job because they failed in their previous employment. How would such action benefit us? If we only have one season in the Premiership it will not be the end of the world. Rather that in a stable club structure than a return to our previous attempts at the manager merry go round and all the problems that went with it. saintmark1977
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11:07am Sun 21 Oct 12

rednwhite72 says...

Well its got to be one of the worst displays I seen from saints, they just looked out of sorts, why put your star man on the bench? hes not a super sub any more he's our top scorer and star man?
It looked as though lallana was playing up front, when he is wasted there he needs to be in the centre getting involved. The referee made some terrible decisions too and as for Andy Carroll, he's an absolute disgrace to football and should never in a million years be in the England squad. I lost count of how many times he hit the deck when he was under a challenge, and the ref give it every time, two yellow cards and a penalty? He deserved a card himself, disgusting. He is now up there with my two least favourite so called sportsman of all time, Carrol and Audley Harrison...:)
NA will be aware that things need to change, NC is not the type of man to make rash decisions, he will give NA time to make things right and if it doesn't work then he will be shown the door, NC has the clubs best interests at heart, his job is to make the club as successful as possible and he has the contacts and the finance to make things happen...!
Well its got to be one of the worst displays I seen from saints, they just looked out of sorts, why put your star man on the bench? hes not a super sub any more he's our top scorer and star man? It looked as though lallana was playing up front, when he is wasted there he needs to be in the centre getting involved. The referee made some terrible decisions too and as for Andy Carroll, he's an absolute disgrace to football and should never in a million years be in the England squad. I lost count of how many times he hit the deck when he was under a challenge, and the ref give it every time, two yellow cards and a penalty? He deserved a card himself, disgusting. He is now up there with my two least favourite so called sportsman of all time, Carrol and Audley Harrison...:) NA will be aware that things need to change, NC is not the type of man to make rash decisions, he will give NA time to make things right and if it doesn't work then he will be shown the door, NC has the clubs best interests at heart, his job is to make the club as successful as possible and he has the contacts and the finance to make things happen...! rednwhite72
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11:12am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
1. It seems to be working in a financial sense, as we appear to be solvent. NC has a dream and is doing what he thinks is the best way to fulfil it, rightly or wrongly it's better than what we had a very short time ago, never forget that.
2. I think the workload is much higher in the Prem. A seasoned tactical person with Premier experience might help.
3. Some players are definitely under achieving, we know that they can do better.
4. Us fans, still have to stay in there and continue to give support however gloomy the outlook is, we have used up our quota of bad luck, it's time for better fortune.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR[/p][/quote]1. It seems to be working in a financial sense, as we appear to be solvent. NC has a dream and is doing what he thinks is the best way to fulfil it, rightly or wrongly it's better than what we had a very short time ago, never forget that. 2. I think the workload is much higher in the Prem. A seasoned tactical person with Premier experience might help. 3. Some players are definitely under achieving, we know that they can do better. 4. Us fans, still have to stay in there and continue to give support however gloomy the outlook is, we have used up our quota of bad luck, it's time for better fortune. OSPREYSAINT
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11:14am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The not606.com poll is moving on, 130 votes so far; 104 keep, 26 sack. Perhaps the Echo could sound us out on here?
The not606.com poll is moving on, 130 votes so far; 104 keep, 26 sack. Perhaps the Echo could sound us out on here? OSPREYSAINT
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11:20am Sun 21 Oct 12

boilerman says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
What is it with modern day Saints fans?

Two seasons ago we were in what I remember as the old Third Divsion.Now we are in the First Division and it is a struggle. What on earth did you expect?

Many fans now wish to sack the manager who got us to where we are because he has not brought instant success. They want to replace him with managers who are out of a job because they failed in their previous employment. How would such action benefit us?

If we only have one season in the Premiership it will not be the end of the world. Rather that in a stable club structure than a return to our previous attempts at the manager merry go round and all the problems that went with it.
Good point
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: What is it with modern day Saints fans? Two seasons ago we were in what I remember as the old Third Divsion.Now we are in the First Division and it is a struggle. What on earth did you expect? Many fans now wish to sack the manager who got us to where we are because he has not brought instant success. They want to replace him with managers who are out of a job because they failed in their previous employment. How would such action benefit us? If we only have one season in the Premiership it will not be the end of the world. Rather that in a stable club structure than a return to our previous attempts at the manager merry go round and all the problems that went with it.[/p][/quote]Good point boilerman
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11:28am Sun 21 Oct 12

Melbsaint says...

One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless. Melbsaint
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11:30am Sun 21 Oct 12

alanrr says...

for heaven's sake...............w
ho seriously thought we would be in the top half after the fixtures we have had....we have only played 2 teams in the bottom 11, one we beat the other we didn't..........and the one's in the top 9 are not there just because they beat us, each is either very good or having their best start in the epl ever...........our next 2 games are again against high performing teams......let's judge when we are up against the lower teams.....i would not want nige to go..............moye
s was rubbish at the start only surviving the epl at times, now considered ok......i hope ramirez is not another delgado.....one goal then permanently injured...........i believe he would have torn fulham apart....and like others if 'onest 'arry ever comes back my season ticket does too, can't stand the man
for heaven's sake...............w ho seriously thought we would be in the top half after the fixtures we have had....we have only played 2 teams in the bottom 11, one we beat the other we didn't..........and the one's in the top 9 are not there just because they beat us, each is either very good or having their best start in the epl ever...........our next 2 games are again against high performing teams......let's judge when we are up against the lower teams.....i would not want nige to go..............moye s was rubbish at the start only surviving the epl at times, now considered ok......i hope ramirez is not another delgado.....one goal then permanently injured...........i believe he would have torn fulham apart....and like others if 'onest 'arry ever comes back my season ticket does too, can't stand the man alanrr
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11:41am Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.
Which GK should we play at Leeds?
[quote][p][bold]Melbsaint[/bold] wrote: One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.[/p][/quote]Which GK should we play at Leeds? OSPREYSAINT
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11:48am Sun 21 Oct 12

Lawton12 says...

Wasn't the basic team that won promotion last season , in essence brought together by Nigel Pardew ?

A good defensive coach is the most rational decision at this time but, I fear Adkins will be gone in 2 weeks and practicing physiotherapy.
Wasn't the basic team that won promotion last season , in essence brought together by Nigel Pardew ? A good defensive coach is the most rational decision at this time but, I fear Adkins will be gone in 2 weeks and practicing physiotherapy. Lawton12
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11:49am Sun 21 Oct 12

harryhater says...

warrens 76 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..
I think we are still the ones laughing..unless you are deranged..
do understand why are you on our site...ok you are doing ok now in the 3rd league and you knock our team because they are not doing very well at the moment.....but your bestest fans only numbered 13000 at home.....so i ask you who is laughing now and for what reasons .....
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: Just seen the goals and I must say you lot really are a shambles, and you know what I'm loving it it is so funny, How does it feel to be the record holders of the most goals conceded after 8 games in the premier league they should give you a wooden spoon already, so that is 24 goals conceded so far how many will it be when the season finishes, i reckon 96 conceded 24 scored, Adkins has to stay he is quality not so much fake tan this week and lambert is still eating pies i see anyway PLAY UP POMPEY SEE YOU ALL NEXT SEASON WHEN WE MEET AGAIN......WHO THE F**K IS LAUGHING NOW ..[/p][/quote]I think we are still the ones laughing..unless you are deranged..[/p][/quote]do understand why are you on our site...ok you are doing ok now in the 3rd league and you knock our team because they are not doing very well at the moment.....but your bestest fans only numbered 13000 at home.....so i ask you who is laughing now and for what reasons ..... harryhater
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11:57am Sun 21 Oct 12

up saints says...

not into keep the faith c.o.y.r too old.fact is we sold walcot bale and oxo for peanuts and replaced them with a 13mil dead leg plus 7mil striker who can't work with lambo.only hope i see is fully fit squad tad lee etc and more use of the youngsters.why keep shaw if not given a chance.still think no one better out there than nigel but do wonder who picks the team at times.
not into keep the faith c.o.y.r too old.fact is we sold walcot bale and oxo for peanuts and replaced them with a 13mil dead leg plus 7mil striker who can't work with lambo.only hope i see is fully fit squad tad lee etc and more use of the youngsters.why keep shaw if not given a chance.still think no one better out there than nigel but do wonder who picks the team at times. up saints
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12:00pm Sun 21 Oct 12

popper says...

Confucious wrote:
I'd like to see more sympathy for the moaners, doom-mongers and head-choppers on here.

Come on guys, they've had an awful time of it for three years. After all that sunshine, let them enjoy the rain.

Obviously there is a danger with these people that they let failure go to their heads, but bear in mind failure may well be the only thing they are a success at.

Remember too that for these people, who never have and never will have to do it themselves, nothing is impossible.

By registering their gloom in the tough times they can stake their position not only as the wise fathers of any future success but also as the blameless orphans of any failure.
Confucious - you are a legend. These Eeyore's are now happy at last. To quote the donkeys

"It's snowing still," said Eeyore gloomily.
"So it is."
"And freezing."
"Is it?"
"Yes," said Eeyore. "However," he said, brightening up a little, "we haven't had an earthquake lately."

I suppose rather than moaning i will have ot have a snowball fight and plan on a sledge with my kids. And if my team needshelp. maybe i will sing and support them even harder. As said, people dont get rubbish overnight. They may lose confidence but typicallywith support from all, they soar, and fly like before.
Im glad im not an Eeyore. Its more fun this way.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I'd like to see more sympathy for the moaners, doom-mongers and head-choppers on here. Come on guys, they've had an awful time of it for three years. After all that sunshine, let them enjoy the rain. Obviously there is a danger with these people that they let failure go to their heads, but bear in mind failure may well be the only thing they are a success at. Remember too that for these people, who never have and never will have to do it themselves, nothing is impossible. By registering their gloom in the tough times they can stake their position not only as the wise fathers of any future success but also as the blameless orphans of any failure.[/p][/quote]Confucious - you are a legend. These Eeyore's are now happy at last. To quote the donkeys "It's snowing still," said Eeyore gloomily. "So it is." "And freezing." "Is it?" "Yes," said Eeyore. "However," he said, brightening up a little, "we haven't had an earthquake lately." I suppose rather than moaning i will have ot have a snowball fight and plan on a sledge with my kids. And if my team needshelp. maybe i will sing and support them even harder. As said, people dont get rubbish overnight. They may lose confidence but typicallywith support from all, they soar, and fly like before. Im glad im not an Eeyore. Its more fun this way. popper
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12:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Give Jos some credit for his clever slight of hand, He held Carroll by the pony tail and had him in his pocket for the entire 1st half.
Sadly the defence went awol in the 2nd half and confidence is now a big mental issue that must not be allowed to fester on and on. I hope Nigel is given the time to turn it around.

One of the best football chairmen is Dave Wheelan at Wigan for supporting his manager through thick and thin. He came out last season and said Spanish Bob would retain his job regardless of whether or not they were relegated. I for one hope Nicola shows the same foresight.
Give Jos some credit for his clever slight of hand, He held Carroll by the pony tail and had him in his pocket for the entire 1st half. Sadly the defence went awol in the 2nd half and confidence is now a big mental issue that must not be allowed to fester on and on. I hope Nigel is given the time to turn it around. One of the best football chairmen is Dave Wheelan at Wigan for supporting his manager through thick and thin. He came out last season and said Spanish Bob would retain his job regardless of whether or not they were relegated. I for one hope Nicola shows the same foresight. Mush On The Beach
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12:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lawton12 wrote:
Wasn't the basic team that won promotion last season , in essence brought together by Nigel Pardew ?

A good defensive coach is the most rational decision at this time but, I fear Adkins will be gone in 2 weeks and practicing physiotherapy.
Is that a gut feeling or what you actually want?
[quote][p][bold]Lawton12[/bold] wrote: Wasn't the basic team that won promotion last season , in essence brought together by Nigel Pardew ? A good defensive coach is the most rational decision at this time but, I fear Adkins will be gone in 2 weeks and practicing physiotherapy.[/p][/quote]Is that a gut feeling or what you actually want? OSPREYSAINT
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12:08pm Sun 21 Oct 12

swesaint says...

Seems many on here think we would do great if we spend more and get more players in. Look at QPR........
Seems many on here think we would do great if we spend more and get more players in. Look at QPR........ swesaint
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12:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.
Sense.... hear hear
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts. There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January. There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right. In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term. Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts. Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well. Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.[/p][/quote]Sense.... hear hear hedge end bob
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12:16pm Sun 21 Oct 12

up saints says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts.

There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January.

There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right.

In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term.

Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts.

Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well.

Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.
Sense.... hear hear
yep agree with this post but we all like are 2p worth
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: Only Cortese and Adkins know what's really going on. Everybody posting here sees the what happens on the pitch, but not the behind the scenes activities that preceded it. We can only guess, and some of you on here are doing just that and presenting opinions as facts. There is no short term 'fix' here - we have the squad we have until January. There is no 'magical motivating manager' who is either out of work, available or acceptable to come in an wave a magic wand and make everything all right. In fact ALL the evidence of the Premiership shows is the CEO's who stick with good managers through the hard times who are rewarded with success and consistency in the long term. Is Adkins a good manager? Of course he is - look at the facts. Is he good enough for the premiership? Of course he is, and given time he will show that just as Sir Alex and others have after rocky starts. Will Adkins get the opportunity? We don't know. Remember this is a steep learning curve for Cortese as well. Personally I hope he has the balls to sit tight and continue to support Adkins in every way he can.[/p][/quote]Sense.... hear hear[/p][/quote]yep agree with this post but we all like are 2p worth up saints
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12:17pm Sun 21 Oct 12

saintlysoul says...

I was at the match yesterday.I thought Sants played well in the first half. The second half was the same old same old - poor defending. How can defenders and a goal keeper at any level allow a free kick to bounce in the 6 yard area? Why did Fonte stupidly handle the ball to concede a penalty?

Schneidlin was poor yesterday as was Davis (seems only to want to play backwards or sideways). Puncheon was below par and apart from his goal Lalana was quiet. Guly I'm afraid is a waste of time and Rodriguez just isn't ready for this level.

What I can't understand is when the team are playing poorly as must have been obvious to NA and the coaching staff why substitutions are made earlier e.g. why bring Ward-Prowse on on the 89th minute bearing in mind the midfield's second half performance when he came on he looked up for it and alert. He's done well so far so why not give him longer?

I feel sorry for NA. His players are letting him down. They should all take a look at themselves and seriously up their games.

We also need a leader on the pitch someone who will command performances from the players. Lalana never seems to say anything!
I was at the match yesterday.I thought Sants played well in the first half. The second half was the same old same old - poor defending. How can defenders and a goal keeper at any level allow a free kick to bounce in the 6 yard area? Why did Fonte stupidly handle the ball to concede a penalty? Schneidlin was poor yesterday as was Davis (seems only to want to play backwards or sideways). Puncheon was below par and apart from his goal Lalana was quiet. Guly I'm afraid is a waste of time and Rodriguez just isn't ready for this level. What I can't understand is when the team are playing poorly as must have been obvious to NA and the coaching staff why substitutions are made earlier e.g. why bring Ward-Prowse on on the 89th minute bearing in mind the midfield's second half performance when he came on he looked up for it and alert. He's done well so far so why not give him longer? I feel sorry for NA. His players are letting him down. They should all take a look at themselves and seriously up their games. We also need a leader on the pitch someone who will command performances from the players. Lalana never seems to say anything! saintlysoul
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12:39pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Saintsteve7 says...

I'm a massive fan of what Nige is trying to achieve with the style of play we have BUT I think if you look back at other prem teams who have suffered heavy defeats, 6-1 Arsenal in our case, what you usually see in the next game is a dire defensive display which usually results in a 0-0. It isn't pretty but it gets everyone to focus back onto to their jobs and provides a base to push on again.

I see no sign, bar 45 mins yesterday, that we have any intention to try and shore things up for a game or 2 to help build a bit of confidence and realise that we CAN defend and CAN keep a clean sheet at this level.

There have been worse teams than us, with defenders of less ability than ours, who have managed better defensive performances in the premier league. I just think we haven't quite found that balance yet. But I believe it will come if we all just have a bit of faith!!

I'm in this for the long haul not just the 5 mins we've been back in the prem I hope the rest of you are as well.!
I'm a massive fan of what Nige is trying to achieve with the style of play we have BUT I think if you look back at other prem teams who have suffered heavy defeats, 6-1 Arsenal in our case, what you usually see in the next game is a dire defensive display which usually results in a 0-0. It isn't pretty but it gets everyone to focus back onto to their jobs and provides a base to push on again. I see no sign, bar 45 mins yesterday, that we have any intention to try and shore things up for a game or 2 to help build a bit of confidence and realise that we CAN defend and CAN keep a clean sheet at this level. There have been worse teams than us, with defenders of less ability than ours, who have managed better defensive performances in the premier league. I just think we haven't quite found that balance yet. But I believe it will come if we all just have a bit of faith!! I'm in this for the long haul not just the 5 mins we've been back in the prem I hope the rest of you are as well.! Saintsteve7
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12:44pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Velleity says...

saintlysoul wrote:
I was at the match yesterday.I thought Sants played well in the first half. The second half was the same old same old - poor defending. How can defenders and a goal keeper at any level allow a free kick to bounce in the 6 yard area? Why did Fonte stupidly handle the ball to concede a penalty?

Schneidlin was poor yesterday as was Davis (seems only to want to play backwards or sideways). Puncheon was below par and apart from his goal Lalana was quiet. Guly I'm afraid is a waste of time and Rodriguez just isn't ready for this level.

What I can't understand is when the team are playing poorly as must have been obvious to NA and the coaching staff why substitutions are made earlier e.g. why bring Ward-Prowse on on the 89th minute bearing in mind the midfield's second half performance when he came on he looked up for it and alert. He's done well so far so why not give him longer?

I feel sorry for NA. His players are letting him down. They should all take a look at themselves and seriously up their games.

We also need a leader on the pitch someone who will command performances from the players. Lalana never seems to say anything!
If the defence (Boruc, Clyne, Yoshida, Hooiveld, Fonte) was poor plus Schneiderlin, Davis, Puncheon, Lallana, Guly and Rodriguez - as you suggest above, then we're in something of a fix, as that's every player on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]saintlysoul[/bold] wrote: I was at the match yesterday.I thought Sants played well in the first half. The second half was the same old same old - poor defending. How can defenders and a goal keeper at any level allow a free kick to bounce in the 6 yard area? Why did Fonte stupidly handle the ball to concede a penalty? Schneidlin was poor yesterday as was Davis (seems only to want to play backwards or sideways). Puncheon was below par and apart from his goal Lalana was quiet. Guly I'm afraid is a waste of time and Rodriguez just isn't ready for this level. What I can't understand is when the team are playing poorly as must have been obvious to NA and the coaching staff why substitutions are made earlier e.g. why bring Ward-Prowse on on the 89th minute bearing in mind the midfield's second half performance when he came on he looked up for it and alert. He's done well so far so why not give him longer? I feel sorry for NA. His players are letting him down. They should all take a look at themselves and seriously up their games. We also need a leader on the pitch someone who will command performances from the players. Lalana never seems to say anything![/p][/quote]If the defence (Boruc, Clyne, Yoshida, Hooiveld, Fonte) was poor plus Schneiderlin, Davis, Puncheon, Lallana, Guly and Rodriguez - as you suggest above, then we're in something of a fix, as that's every player on the pitch. Velleity
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12:44pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

crusti wrote:
mbetts wrote:
Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football.

We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly.

There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.
Top Post, it says what i wanted to say.
This to me is everything, the sweetest post that you could bring, oh baby.
[quote][p][bold]crusti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mbetts[/bold] wrote: Nigel Adkins is an honourable man but the worrying thing is, is Cortese? It would be awful to boot Nigel out then watch him take another team forward whilst we stagnated or dropped again under a journeyman like Redknapp, who publicly acknowledges there's no loyalty in modern day football. We should ride the storm, there's no quick fix, if we drop all it proves is we've come too far, too quickly. There's every chance we can finish outside the bottom 3 and learn as the great unit that's taken us this far.[/p][/quote]Top Post, it says what i wanted to say.[/p][/quote]This to me is everything, the sweetest post that you could bring, oh baby. warrens 76
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12:49pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
"I applaud you"! and him!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "[/p][/quote]"I applaud you"! and him! warrens 76
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12:54pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Dellgirl says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Just watched highlights and as stats prove we didn't play too bad and had plenty of the ball.
It's when we are not in possession the trouble starts, we have to defend all over the pitch.
Having said that what is Adkins/schwi doing dropping lambert to the bench? He's scored 5 goals this season and is our talisman. He puts opposition defence on the back foot and links up play.
We are shifting 3 goals a game which cannot continue (obviously) we need to become more defensive in all areas of the pitch, if we can't get back let's not bomb forward. When we lose the ball, work hard to win it back. Tactics are useless if the players cannot do the basics, let's get back to basics.
I think you were watching the wrong game if you think that sham logic defending was ok.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Just watched highlights and as stats prove we didn't play too bad and had plenty of the ball. It's when we are not in possession the trouble starts, we have to defend all over the pitch. Having said that what is Adkins/schwi doing dropping lambert to the bench? He's scored 5 goals this season and is our talisman. He puts opposition defence on the back foot and links up play. We are shifting 3 goals a game which cannot continue (obviously) we need to become more defensive in all areas of the pitch, if we can't get back let's not bomb forward. When we lose the ball, work hard to win it back. Tactics are useless if the players cannot do the basics, let's get back to basics.[/p][/quote]I think you were watching the wrong game if you think that sham logic defending was ok. Dellgirl
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12:56pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st bevois says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.
Which GK should we play at Leeds?
More to the point - who plays at LB. The Leeds game is no longer a game to "throw away" - its a game we need to generate some confidence from and that is sadly lacking now and you can see that it is starting to affect both the manager and the players and those of us on here. Neil W will be looking at this fixture now as an opportunity to scalp us and raise confidence in their own camp especially after the Friday night shenanigans. Leeds didn't look that special - Wednesday were by far the better footballing team (and we beat them comfortably) and I believe that a well balanced confident Saints team could rip Leeds apart. The problem is that at the moment we are not well balanced and confidence is ebbing away. You know that Leeds wll be in our faces and if we are unbalanced or not up for a battle in any department we will face a humiliating cup exit. On the contrary if are determined and positive we take the opportunity to get a positive result, it will keep the cup run going and help the confidence side of things. Leeds is no place for Guly. And no place for a complete second string either. Danny Fox plays at LB whether some like it or not or if the Academy boys are as good as they are hyped - play them on the left and move Lallana away from the left flank which has been a total fail since day 1 of the season. And please if at all possible - NO MORE CBs AT FULL BACK. My worst fear now is watching thousands of Saints fans streaming out of SM after 80 mins or even before (I never leave early) while 3000 Londoners are dancing a jig and mocking us having inflicted the worst possible home defeat on us. Spurs concede goals to. Two or three matches ago you might have said that this fixture could go either way. On current form for both you would be surprised if less than 5 or 6 goals were scored. But with Bale and Lennon on the flanks..............
.???
NA - get a balanced team with quality and grit out there and hopefully we can do the biz despite the recent knocks.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melbsaint[/bold] wrote: One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.[/p][/quote]Which GK should we play at Leeds?[/p][/quote]More to the point - who plays at LB. The Leeds game is no longer a game to "throw away" - its a game we need to generate some confidence from and that is sadly lacking now and you can see that it is starting to affect both the manager and the players and those of us on here. Neil W will be looking at this fixture now as an opportunity to scalp us and raise confidence in their own camp especially after the Friday night shenanigans. Leeds didn't look that special - Wednesday were by far the better footballing team (and we beat them comfortably) and I believe that a well balanced confident Saints team could rip Leeds apart. The problem is that at the moment we are not well balanced and confidence is ebbing away. You know that Leeds wll be in our faces and if we are unbalanced or not up for a battle in any department we will face a humiliating cup exit. On the contrary if are determined and positive we take the opportunity to get a positive result, it will keep the cup run going and help the confidence side of things. Leeds is no place for Guly. And no place for a complete second string either. Danny Fox plays at LB whether some like it or not or if the Academy boys are as good as they are hyped - play them on the left and move Lallana away from the left flank which has been a total fail since day 1 of the season. And please if at all possible - NO MORE CBs AT FULL BACK. My worst fear now is watching thousands of Saints fans streaming out of SM after 80 mins or even before (I never leave early) while 3000 Londoners are dancing a jig and mocking us having inflicted the worst possible home defeat on us. Spurs concede goals to. Two or three matches ago you might have said that this fixture could go either way. On current form for both you would be surprised if less than 5 or 6 goals were scored. But with Bale and Lennon on the flanks.............. .??? NA - get a balanced team with quality and grit out there and hopefully we can do the biz despite the recent knocks. st bevois
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1:00pm Sun 21 Oct 12

circa 66 saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.
Which GK should we play at Leeds?
all 3 . 2 to fight the fans off the other to keep goal
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melbsaint[/bold] wrote: One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.[/p][/quote]Which GK should we play at Leeds?[/p][/quote]all 3 . 2 to fight the fans off the other to keep goal circa 66 saint
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1:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

MGRA says...

NA staying or departing will not alter the fact we have bought the wrong players and maybe let 2 or 3 go we should not have. January will be too late to fix the situation so its a case of now have to survive in the prem by outscoring.... To do that you need to pick you best goalie and back four and stick with them.... I think we have torn apart a team from last season deemed "not good enough to compete in the Prem" before any real assessment was done..... the damage is done and we just need to finish 17th by hook or by crook....
NA staying or departing will not alter the fact we have bought the wrong players and maybe let 2 or 3 go we should not have. January will be too late to fix the situation so its a case of now have to survive in the prem by outscoring.... To do that you need to pick you best goalie and back four and stick with them.... I think we have torn apart a team from last season deemed "not good enough to compete in the Prem" before any real assessment was done..... the damage is done and we just need to finish 17th by hook or by crook.... MGRA
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1:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

MGRA says...

NA staying or departing will not alter the fact we have bought the wrong players and maybe let 2 or 3 go we should not have. January will be too late to fix the situation so its a case of now have to survive in the prem by outscoring.... To do that you need to pick you best goalie and back four and stick with them.... I think we have torn apart a team from last season deemed "not good enough to compete in the Prem" before any real assessment was done..... the damage is done and we just need to finish 17th by hook or by crook....
NA staying or departing will not alter the fact we have bought the wrong players and maybe let 2 or 3 go we should not have. January will be too late to fix the situation so its a case of now have to survive in the prem by outscoring.... To do that you need to pick you best goalie and back four and stick with them.... I think we have torn apart a team from last season deemed "not good enough to compete in the Prem" before any real assessment was done..... the damage is done and we just need to finish 17th by hook or by crook.... MGRA
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1:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's....

....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..
If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's.... ....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel.. warrens 76
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1:29pm Sun 21 Oct 12

willygetaway says...

warrens 76 wrote:
If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's....

....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..
go get em bruv lol, when do you arrive ?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's.... ....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..[/p][/quote]go get em bruv lol, when do you arrive ? willygetaway
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1:30pm Sun 21 Oct 12

saintbobby says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Melbsaint wrote:
One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.
Which GK should we play at Leeds?
all 3 . 2 to fight the fans off the other to keep goal
deepheat says...
11:30pm Sat 20 Oct 12

Sir Alex Ferguson is not happy with Rio Ferdinand maybe we could get him on loan. All we need is a couple of wins to get us going and keep above Villa, Reading, QPR, Wigan and Norwich and voila happy days are here again. Oh and get the red and white stripe shirts back on the players."

We may not get Rio but it's someone like him we need, as I have said before. A proper general.

OK, Saints had a good first half but in 2 minutes after the break it had all gone and that penalty was dodgy. At 3-1, as Nigel said, that was it.

Gerry Cox in The Sunday Telegraph says after the second goal that "it was typical of Southampton's defending that they kept losing possession in front of goal". Later he also says, "Adkins was left to rue another day when his side played well enough in the central third of the pitch but defended poorly and failed to put away their chances."

All this is spot on and like others we wonder why the central defence was not strengthened properly in the summer. January may be too late.

Saints now hold the record for the most goals conceded after 8 games in the Premier League - EVER!!

Saints were dealt some real toughies on the fixture list, but failing to beat Wigan and Fulham, now being thumped by West Ham is a real worry. Spurs and WBA next - any points there?

I agree about the shirts, of course. Saints are RED and WHITE, always were and always should be. Sort it!!
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Melbsaint[/bold] wrote: One thing is for certain - we need to play our best players. Rickie on the bench is just madness and sorry but neither keeper is a patch on kelvin despite his flaws. We say we know our defensive frailties yet every week they happen again and again! I still want Nigel to get the chance he deserves but the defence need some real grit and fight. We need a holding midfielder to help them out and we should give mayuka a chance. Tandari, jack cork and gaston can't be back quick enough but the real focus needs to be on grinding out some points. I don't know if he current team can do it mainly as we play such a creative style of football. If we concede 3 and score 4 then great but we look more like conceding 5 and scoring 2 or 3! Are there any experienced centre halves out there for loan? I don't know how we will get anything from the spurs game but let's at least play our strongest side and that doesn't involve guly or jrod! Lets keep getting behind the boys regardless.[/p][/quote]Which GK should we play at Leeds?[/p][/quote]all 3 . 2 to fight the fans off the other to keep goal[/p][/quote]deepheat says... 11:30pm Sat 20 Oct 12 Sir Alex Ferguson is not happy with Rio Ferdinand maybe we could get him on loan. All we need is a couple of wins to get us going and keep above Villa, Reading, QPR, Wigan and Norwich and voila happy days are here again. Oh and get the red and white stripe shirts back on the players." We may not get Rio but it's someone like him we need, as I have said before. A proper general. OK, Saints had a good first half but in 2 minutes after the break it had all gone and that penalty was dodgy. At 3-1, as Nigel said, that was it. Gerry Cox in The Sunday Telegraph says after the second goal that "it was typical of Southampton's defending that they kept losing possession in front of goal". Later he also says, "Adkins was left to rue another day when his side played well enough in the central third of the pitch but defended poorly and failed to put away their chances." All this is spot on and like others we wonder why the central defence was not strengthened properly in the summer. January may be too late. Saints now hold the record for the most goals conceded after 8 games in the Premier League - EVER!! Saints were dealt some real toughies on the fixture list, but failing to beat Wigan and Fulham, now being thumped by West Ham is a real worry. Spurs and WBA next - any points there? I agree about the shirts, of course. Saints are RED and WHITE, always were and always should be. Sort it!! saintbobby
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1:37pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Barcelona Saint says...

Right, I'm feeling a bit better than yesterday and I know there is an urgency to get results. I think it's more about proving we can win games now. I don't think we should panic just yet though. The teams just above us aren't that far ahead. It's not like we're rock bottom with no points. Obviously I am a little concerned about defence and also midfield not doing their bit to break up attack but I am more concerned about NA being so rigid in his formation and wanting to play a 4-3-3 every week. Something tells me he is having to accomodate playing certain players who quite frankly are not worth their money and can't seem to cut it.
Having said that, none of the players have played in PL (bar Davis/Davies) so we can't just be expected to do a Swansea or a Norwich! Neither can NA be expected to be a Paul Lambert or Brendan Rodgers.
We don't know how much say he has in who plays or what NC is doing but that is all rumour and these stories will continue to come out as long as we are not getting results.
I would prefer to stick with NA for now (he brought us here don't forget). Let them all learn, hopefully sooner rather than later. A decent defense coach may help. And certainly not rubber face, who has destroyed Hants clubs already!
I don't know whether any loans are possible, probably not at this stage so the guys are just going to have to pull their finger out. If still same in a few games times, then we should reassess NA (or NC! :-)

I believe we will get some results! We have to believe Saints fans.. and get behind them.
Right, I'm feeling a bit better than yesterday and I know there is an urgency to get results. I think it's more about proving we can win games now. I don't think we should panic just yet though. The teams just above us aren't that far ahead. It's not like we're rock bottom with no points. Obviously I am a little concerned about defence and also midfield not doing their bit to break up attack but I am more concerned about NA being so rigid in his formation and wanting to play a 4-3-3 every week. Something tells me he is having to accomodate playing certain players who quite frankly are not worth their money and can't seem to cut it. Having said that, none of the players have played in PL (bar Davis/Davies) so we can't just be expected to do a Swansea or a Norwich! Neither can NA be expected to be a Paul Lambert or Brendan Rodgers. We don't know how much say he has in who plays or what NC is doing but that is all rumour and these stories will continue to come out as long as we are not getting results. I would prefer to stick with NA for now (he brought us here don't forget). Let them all learn, hopefully sooner rather than later. A decent defense coach may help. And certainly not rubber face, who has destroyed Hants clubs already! I don't know whether any loans are possible, probably not at this stage so the guys are just going to have to pull their finger out. If still same in a few games times, then we should reassess NA (or NC! :-) I believe we will get some results! We have to believe Saints fans.. and get behind them. Barcelona Saint
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1:49pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Beckyfromsholing says...

Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by Beckyfromsholing
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1:51pm Sun 21 Oct 12

F Fan says...

costa gaz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”
You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.
Yes, he will. Bankers ran very big businesses - didn't mean they what they were speaking about with respect to their own industry, far less a football business.

Keven Keegan as director of football - words fail me.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”[/p][/quote]You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.[/p][/quote]Yes, he will. Bankers ran very big businesses - didn't mean they what they were speaking about with respect to their own industry, far less a football business. Keven Keegan as director of football - words fail me. F Fan
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2:01pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
"I applaud you"! and him!
We are all armchair critics in some fashion and have a right to be but here's my words written in 2012

It is not the manager that counts, not the man who receives recompense for his duties for he can walk away, not the man who takes credit for the game for he is only temporarily entrusted with the jewel that is the team.
It is the fan who counts, who suffers, who celebrates, who chains himself through love for a lifetime, who feels every goal against him like a dagger through the soul, who questions and moans but persists and stays from beginning to end, who knows victory and defeat and remains when others have moved on.


STID
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "[/p][/quote]"I applaud you"! and him![/p][/quote]We are all armchair critics in some fashion and have a right to be but here's my words written in 2012 It is not the manager that counts, not the man who receives recompense for his duties for he can walk away, not the man who takes credit for the game for he is only temporarily entrusted with the jewel that is the team. It is the fan who counts, who suffers, who celebrates, who chains himself through love for a lifetime, who feels every goal against him like a dagger through the soul, who questions and moans but persists and stays from beginning to end, who knows victory and defeat and remains when others have moved on. STID st1halo
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2:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

willygetaway wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's....

....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..
go get em bruv lol, when do you arrive ?
You are picking me up saturday terminal 5 (BA) 12.30....luv bro
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: If, bloody big if we could start to have the support (errant fan aside) of Leeds..non stop noise, vociferous love of all thing Leeds and leeds and Leeds then substitute it with Saints and Saints and Saints...with our lack of debt, no southern competition whatsoever, we should, could and Blo*dy well will become a big player, patience young Jedi's.... ....seriously results this season's results bother me as they happen, however as the wine sinks in, well not so much, we arrived early in the prem a misshap this year does not bother me...go get em Nigel..[/p][/quote]go get em bruv lol, when do you arrive ?[/p][/quote]You are picking me up saturday terminal 5 (BA) 12.30....luv bro warrens 76
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2:04pm Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants.

Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it."

COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.
I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.
most of the neg brigade are deaf blind and terminally dum at the mo... repeatedly stating faults we all are soooo aware of. Its just the way they go on and on and on baying for the merry go round as if they can't wait for us to fail so they can ram it down everyones throat again.. I've never met Mr Cortese and don't care whether some that have didn't like him. He had Markus Liebherr's trust and friendship in business and within his family.. We've come a long way in a short time.. two words spring to mind that have been so easily cast aside. Gratitude and Loyalty.

If he put the club on the market tomorrow they'd all say told you so now lets have a proper owner. If he sacked Nigel tomorrow and brought in Harry and harry took us down they'd wish silently for Nigel back.

KTF
100%. Blooming good post!
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Having read some of the absolute bs posted here it wouldn't surprise me if a for sale sign went up on SFC. Why on earth would a man who had the trust of Markus Liebherr want to run a club for a bunch of back stabbing spineless wind up merchants. Pretty obvious we are struggling but even my late Nan from Graham Rd knew and said many times.. "If you have nothing positive to say then say nothing... and if you don't know anything stay out of it." COYR KTF and harden up - on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]I had already posted that argument but it fell on deaf ears.[/p][/quote]most of the neg brigade are deaf blind and terminally dum at the mo... repeatedly stating faults we all are soooo aware of. Its just the way they go on and on and on baying for the merry go round as if they can't wait for us to fail so they can ram it down everyones throat again.. I've never met Mr Cortese and don't care whether some that have didn't like him. He had Markus Liebherr's trust and friendship in business and within his family.. We've come a long way in a short time.. two words spring to mind that have been so easily cast aside. Gratitude and Loyalty. If he put the club on the market tomorrow they'd all say told you so now lets have a proper owner. If he sacked Nigel tomorrow and brought in Harry and harry took us down they'd wish silently for Nigel back. KTF[/p][/quote]100%. Blooming good post! randre
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2:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

randre says...

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
It's sad that some people are either spineless & have no bottle, or are so arrogant & self-opinionated thay they cannot support their team (if it is their team) when the going gets tough.

NA & NC have earnt our respect & support for the last two years, so I think some people need to either man up or shut up.

The season isn't decided after 8 games, & a Manager's reputation neither.

I would hate to be in a team with some of the posters on here when times get tough. They'd be the first to either bale out or blame someone else.

If your support for the team is so flaky & your patience so short, I suggest you either go & support another team or take a long hard look at yourselves & grow a pair.

COYR!
Absolutely, I was thinking exactly the same.
[quote][p][bold]Rob The Saint NOT in NZ[/bold] wrote: It's sad that some people are either spineless & have no bottle, or are so arrogant & self-opinionated thay they cannot support their team (if it is their team) when the going gets tough. NA & NC have earnt our respect & support for the last two years, so I think some people need to either man up or shut up. The season isn't decided after 8 games, & a Manager's reputation neither. I would hate to be in a team with some of the posters on here when times get tough. They'd be the first to either bale out or blame someone else. If your support for the team is so flaky & your patience so short, I suggest you either go & support another team or take a long hard look at yourselves & grow a pair. COYR![/p][/quote]Absolutely, I was thinking exactly the same. randre
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2:22pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.
Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense. OSPREYSAINT
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2:23pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Barcelona Saint says...

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by
Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?
[quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by[/p][/quote]Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need? Barcelona Saint
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2:30pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Tony in Liberia says...

1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them! Tony in Liberia
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2:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Barcelona Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by
Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?
I wonder If he's any good with gates.

my garden one is knackered.
[quote][p][bold]Barcelona Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by[/p][/quote]Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?[/p][/quote]I wonder If he's any good with gates. my garden one is knackered. angus mc coatup
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2:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12

SFCSaint says...

our future already looks doomed!
our future already looks doomed! SFCSaint
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2:41pm Sun 21 Oct 12

up saints says...

Barcelona Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by
Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?
off topic my mum is still in sholing.with the team picked yesterday i expected a 6-1 arsenal if west ham turned up for the first half may well of happened.team selection was poor yesteday but easy to say after.gazza in goal jwp start shaw left back and the first half was made for lambo
[quote][p][bold]Barcelona Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by[/p][/quote]Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?[/p][/quote]off topic my mum is still in sholing.with the team picked yesterday i expected a 6-1 arsenal if west ham turned up for the first half may well of happened.team selection was poor yesteday but easy to say after.gazza in goal jwp start shaw left back and the first half was made for lambo up saints
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2:42pm Sun 21 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life
lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life angus mc coatup
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2:44pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Barcelona Saint wrote:
Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by
Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?
I wonder If he's any good with gates.

my garden one is knackered.
Don't mention the gates someone is bound to take offence.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barcelona Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Wrong selection, wrong subtitutions, reluctant to change shape, can't sort fence out. Time to go Nigel. Gianluca Villa is standing by[/p][/quote]Who's Gianluca Villa??? What fences does he need?[/p][/quote]I wonder If he's any good with gates. my garden one is knackered.[/p][/quote]Don't mention the gates someone is bound to take offence. OSPREYSAINT
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2:48pm Sun 21 Oct 12

saintmicky says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I know you were there because I saw you at Fleet! I agree with what your saying in some respects. What wasn't shown on MOTD was just how much of a cheating pr@@k Carroll really is, and how naive the ref was. I still feel we would have done better to put Ricky on earlier, and left Punch on, but then I'm a numpty who stands on the terrace, not a premier league manager
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I know you were there because I saw you at Fleet! I agree with what your saying in some respects. What wasn't shown on MOTD was just how much of a cheating pr@@k Carroll really is, and how naive the ref was. I still feel we would have done better to put Ricky on earlier, and left Punch on, but then I'm a numpty who stands on the terrace, not a premier league manager saintmicky
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2:48pm Sun 21 Oct 12

The Good Ship Hardy says...

saintmoz wrote:
leechyboy wrote:
I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.
Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???
Redknapp for sure lol
[quote][p][bold]saintmoz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leechyboy[/bold] wrote: I never thought I would say this particularly so soon into the season but I think its time for him to go. I think the league is above him, his substitutions are awful and the silly defensive mistakes seem to just keep happening and the man himself has admitted tonight he does not have a clue how to stop them.[/p][/quote]Sad to say it but I think you might be right. We need to change the status quo. But who would come in???[/p][/quote]Redknapp for sure lol The Good Ship Hardy
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2:51pm Sun 21 Oct 12

saintforever says...

all this negative talk wont do any good - as someone has posted before - we have what we have in terms of players and we cant do anything about it until january so need to make the most of them by playing our best team ,playing each player to their strengths , keeping a regular team where possible and most of all backing the manager and the players.
i for one do not want nigel to go, especially if it means nodding dog comes in - my season ticket will go back with that decision
all this negative talk wont do any good - as someone has posted before - we have what we have in terms of players and we cant do anything about it until january so need to make the most of them by playing our best team ,playing each player to their strengths , keeping a regular team where possible and most of all backing the manager and the players. i for one do not want nigel to go, especially if it means nodding dog comes in - my season ticket will go back with that decision saintforever
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2:51pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

It's so easy to sit back, give in and whinge when times are tough. I choose to do what I can to affect a positive outcome...that is to support my team and give them all the vocal support I can.
The second half was tough to stomach, but our fans were superb thoughout.
I'm not for giving in to the doom n gloom mongers on here. They continually point out the negatives...but have very little substance for a quick fix. Who honestly thought the prem would be easy?
I'm in this for the long term and will follow my Club through thick n thin.

Roll on Sunday!

COYR
It's so easy to sit back, give in and whinge when times are tough. I choose to do what I can to affect a positive outcome...that is to support my team and give them all the vocal support I can. The second half was tough to stomach, but our fans were superb thoughout. I'm not for giving in to the doom n gloom mongers on here. They continually point out the negatives...but have very little substance for a quick fix. Who honestly thought the prem would be easy? I'm in this for the long term and will follow my Club through thick n thin. Roll on Sunday! COYR Baddesley Bill
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2:53pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Our prime objective at the moment is to be 17th or above on the last day, as things are going I would settle for that.
Our prime objective at the moment is to be 17th or above on the last day, as things are going I would settle for that. OSPREYSAINT
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3:00pm Sun 21 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Our prime objective at the moment is to be 17th or above on the last day, as things are going I would settle for that.
I'd settle for that too.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Our prime objective at the moment is to be 17th or above on the last day, as things are going I would settle for that.[/p][/quote]I'd settle for that too. thomasupton
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3:02pm Sun 21 Oct 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR[/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me. ramptonfromsouthampton
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3:05pm Sun 21 Oct 12

NC Fan4Life says...

NA - nice man and we all hoped he would do well but proved to be out of his depth in this league. Tactically nieve, wrong formations, and wrong substitutions.
Either we need to replace him &/or his coaches but must bring in an experienced man to help him immediately.
The idea of playing 'pretty' football is good but first you have to earn the right to do so. This means playing 'ugly' to pick up points first, boring 0-0 draws away and 1-0's at home required over next dozen games.
Action now please Mr Chairman we are a quarter way and looking unlikely to get 20 points not the 40 required.
NA - nice man and we all hoped he would do well but proved to be out of his depth in this league. Tactically nieve, wrong formations, and wrong substitutions. Either we need to replace him &/or his coaches but must bring in an experienced man to help him immediately. The idea of playing 'pretty' football is good but first you have to earn the right to do so. This means playing 'ugly' to pick up points first, boring 0-0 draws away and 1-0's at home required over next dozen games. Action now please Mr Chairman we are a quarter way and looking unlikely to get 20 points not the 40 required. NC Fan4Life
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3:08pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mustard says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
quite right, I'll be delighted with 17th place and continuity this season, we're only a win from where we need to be and it's far too early for panic or knee jerk reactions...
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]quite right, I'll be delighted with 17th place and continuity this season, we're only a win from where we need to be and it's far too early for panic or knee jerk reactions... mustard
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3:10pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mustard says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.
nor me, go support man city !
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR[/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.[/p][/quote]nor me, go support man city ! mustard
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3:13pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mickey01 says...

there is a mr phil brown who is out of work who did wonders at hull with a limited budget plus he is someone who would not let the board pick the team or failing that lets have neil warnock
there is a mr phil brown who is out of work who did wonders at hull with a limited budget plus he is someone who would not let the board pick the team or failing that lets have neil warnock mickey01
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3:15pm Sun 21 Oct 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "[/p][/quote]Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one. ramptonfromsouthampton
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3:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mustard says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.
spot on !
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "[/p][/quote]Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.[/p][/quote]spot on ! mustard
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3:20pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

mickey01 wrote:
there is a mr phil brown who is out of work who did wonders at hull with a limited budget plus he is someone who would not let the board pick the team or failing that lets have neil warnock
mickey01 ...get a grip...the entire SFC set up is integrated...frm under 14's to first team..that is our future...leave NA alone..we will become a force..give it time...
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: there is a mr phil brown who is out of work who did wonders at hull with a limited budget plus he is someone who would not let the board pick the team or failing that lets have neil warnock[/p][/quote]mickey01 ...get a grip...the entire SFC set up is integrated...frm under 14's to first team..that is our future...leave NA alone..we will become a force..give it time... warrens 76
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3:20pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life
You have my support.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life[/p][/quote]You have my support. OSPREYSAINT
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3:22pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on! Saint 2701
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3:24pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

mustard wrote:
ramptonfromsouthampt

on
wrote:
Velleity wrote:
And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.
spot on !
Good call!
[quote][p][bold]mustard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: And for all the armchair critics of NA, the ones who know better than he does, here are wise words written in 1910 by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "[/p][/quote]Bloody marvellous post and says it all really. Nice one.[/p][/quote]spot on ![/p][/quote]Good call! Baddesley Bill
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3:34pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life
You have my support.
I might need it back if my hernia starts up again.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: lack of loyalty is the major cause of failure in every walk of life[/p][/quote]You have my support.[/p][/quote]I might need it back if my hernia starts up again. OSPREYSAINT
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3:35pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mustard says...

of course Roosevelt had never played Premier League Football Manager on his lap top when he wrote that......
of course Roosevelt had never played Premier League Football Manager on his lap top when he wrote that...... mustard
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3:37pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage OSPREYSAINT
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3:47pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing.. warrens 76
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3:58pm Sun 21 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

Right now is the time to breathe in, concentrate and focus all your positive vibes on the the Everton team getting a win at that pokey hole in West London!!

0 2 will do nicely.
Right now is the time to breathe in, concentrate and focus all your positive vibes on the the Everton team getting a win at that pokey hole in West London!! 0 2 will do nicely. redsnapper
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4:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

redsnapper says...

jammy bar stewards!!!
jammy bar stewards!!! redsnapper
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4:16pm Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

Surely QPR wont win :0)
Surely QPR wont win :0) kent141
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4:17pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name! Saint 2701
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4:20pm Sun 21 Oct 12

kent141 says...

SFCSaint wrote:
our future already looks doomed!
It sure does ;0)
[quote][p][bold]SFCSaint[/bold] wrote: our future already looks doomed![/p][/quote]It sure does ;0) kent141
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4:23pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Formerly known as 'Arry is our King says...

Testing times indeed
Testing times indeed Formerly known as 'Arry is our King
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4:25pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

I can not believe there are people who believe Rednap should return. Shame on you all.
He has been to court where he admitted his dog had bank accounts that he forgot about , he cannot write that well and finds complicated numbers a challenge. That speaks everything I need to know for his capabilities. As for character, HELLO ! He was here before REMEMBER ??? AND WHAT DID HIS "PROVEN PREMIERSHIP ABILITY" DO FOR US THEN?? . And why do you think his "proven ability" hasn'rt been snaped up ? For pity's sake he has been shown up for what he is. He is only good for a comedy turn on MOTD.

I still think the majority want Adkins to stay.

But some of these posts remind of a Sunday in 1976 when we paraded the Cup around Southampton. I was standing on the old rose gardens listening to McMenemeny when he made a very good point. said the difference between Southampton fans and Newcastle fans was that they would have turned out on Sunday even if they lost. The crowd largely ignored that comment. But it rings true when you read some of the pitiful whimpering in some of these posts.

There are those among you who would rather have an illiterate crook running this club than stand by a man of ability and integrity.

I know who the posters are on here who have a balanced and well intentioned perspective. I shall continue to read those with interest.

The rest of you should hang your heads and go back to the dark corners. Because I know that as soon as the results turn, and they will, you will scurry out of the dark and be denying you ever came out with the bile I see on these posts.

And we support the same team?

Do we?
I can not believe there are people who believe Rednap should return. Shame on you all. He has been to court where he admitted his dog had bank accounts that he forgot about , he cannot write that well and finds complicated numbers a challenge. That speaks everything I need to know for his capabilities. As for character, HELLO ! He was here before REMEMBER ??? AND WHAT DID HIS "PROVEN PREMIERSHIP ABILITY" DO FOR US THEN?? . And why do you think his "proven ability" hasn'rt been snaped up ? For pity's sake he has been shown up for what he is. He is only good for a comedy turn on MOTD. I still think the majority want Adkins to stay. But some of these posts remind of a Sunday in 1976 when we paraded the Cup around Southampton. I was standing on the old rose gardens listening to McMenemeny when he made a very good point. said the difference between Southampton fans and Newcastle fans was that they would have turned out on Sunday even if they lost. The crowd largely ignored that comment. But it rings true when you read some of the pitiful whimpering in some of these posts. There are those among you who would rather have an illiterate crook running this club than stand by a man of ability and integrity. I know who the posters are on here who have a balanced and well intentioned perspective. I shall continue to read those with interest. The rest of you should hang your heads and go back to the dark corners. Because I know that as soon as the results turn, and they will, you will scurry out of the dark and be denying you ever came out with the bile I see on these posts. And we support the same team? Do we? Alicesdad
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4:28pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal. Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow. Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ? bluewhiteandred
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4:28pm Sun 21 Oct 12

sj1987 says...

All I see is keep the faith. in what a saints team that has shipped 24 goals in 8 games fair enough we played the top 3 but 4 against west ham just shows how much they have evolved in comparision just like Adkins said we have to do before the start of the season the players look so nervous at the back that they will concede that first goal it causes 90percent of there defensive mistakes saints will not get enough time to learn in this league and could easily be down by Christmas if things don't change I don't personally think it should be a manager change but just a change in player attitude I hate Blackpool but when they played in the pl they gave it a go every game knowing they would concede but could score as well saints have the scoring off to a tee but they need to stop worrying about trying to keep clean sheets cause in this league it's not going to happen and my point is we have shipped 24 goals but only in two maybe 3 games have we really given it a proper go coyr
All I see is keep the faith. in what a saints team that has shipped 24 goals in 8 games fair enough we played the top 3 but 4 against west ham just shows how much they have evolved in comparision just like Adkins said we have to do before the start of the season the players look so nervous at the back that they will concede that first goal it causes 90percent of there defensive mistakes saints will not get enough time to learn in this league and could easily be down by Christmas if things don't change I don't personally think it should be a manager change but just a change in player attitude I hate Blackpool but when they played in the pl they gave it a go every game knowing they would concede but could score as well saints have the scoring off to a tee but they need to stop worrying about trying to keep clean sheets cause in this league it's not going to happen and my point is we have shipped 24 goals but only in two maybe 3 games have we really given it a proper go coyr sj1987
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4:30pm Sun 21 Oct 12

buster gutt says...

Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW buster gutt
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4:32pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Saint. says...

Personally I got sick of reading half the post at the beging on here! So sorry if I missed some of the more logical ones later.

For me we have the best young manager in the league! Why do many think a big name manager will serve our club in this league better! Why do many read papers and think like sheep that NC is a guy who sack managers at a drop of a hat! He dose not for the record. As club we went through managers too regularly for papers to associate us as a manager sacking club. Since ML/NC came in to save our club, he has sacked one manager in three years!! Why....because AP was playing around with players misses and the players seeked to get rid of him, and for the record I would not be surprised if in AP new ten year contract he dose it again like at Reading and West Ham then at Saints!

NA will turn our season around for sure! We as all know and forget too easily that we had a dam tough start for a new club in this league! Southampton FC have always started slowly in the prem as history shows, even though I wished they did not.

The only question mark to answer is why the lack of defenders purchase in the transfer window, and yet many blame NC or NA! Why? Who knows for sure. No one but NC or NA! Whose to say that the defenders we went for had agents who gave our club the run around, I.e. waste time in a ticking window and also asking ridiculous wages as the agent knows our club has money. For many reasons it may simply not of come off. Yet not forget our club had a tough balancing act of getting a higher quality defender in they want, at the price they want and in a salary structure, and in a transfer window messed up with players on holidays and existing contracts. Ontop of that NC had to spend time chasing other players which took for ever. Ramierze anyone! How hard and how much time did NC take up in getting this player in,having to deal with two clubs money grabbing egos!

Hoo and Fonte need to step up their personal games, and I believe they will! In NA the club need to show a bit of faith in the guy, and also we all need to reach out and help the man to do his job and players too. As a club all pulling in the same direction and getting behind NA in every way/ level, will only lead to NA success in this league for sure! Yes he needs to tighten up our defence and NA knows this. If we stick with NA we will reap the rewards of a good up and coming manager, and please remember he may be under a demanding chairman in NC which is only good for the club future and NA seems to accept this status quo too. Let's not be short sighted and look for quick firer result now in change of leadership, as this is not the answer. NC has not promised us the league in our first season back. Simply given time and support all Saints fans soon will sit back and smile at having NA in charge, and the others will soon forget that they wished him gone! But that football, and I for one believe in and give NA has my total support to take Saints on to the promise land!
Personally I got sick of reading half the post at the beging on here! So sorry if I missed some of the more logical ones later. For me we have the best young manager in the league! Why do many think a big name manager will serve our club in this league better! Why do many read papers and think like sheep that NC is a guy who sack managers at a drop of a hat! He dose not for the record. As club we went through managers too regularly for papers to associate us as a manager sacking club. Since ML/NC came in to save our club, he has sacked one manager in three years!! Why....because AP was playing around with players misses and the players seeked to get rid of him, and for the record I would not be surprised if in AP new ten year contract he dose it again like at Reading and West Ham then at Saints! NA will turn our season around for sure! We as all know and forget too easily that we had a dam tough start for a new club in this league! Southampton FC have always started slowly in the prem as history shows, even though I wished they did not. The only question mark to answer is why the lack of defenders purchase in the transfer window, and yet many blame NC or NA! Why? Who knows for sure. No one but NC or NA! Whose to say that the defenders we went for had agents who gave our club the run around, I.e. waste time in a ticking window and also asking ridiculous wages as the agent knows our club has money. For many reasons it may simply not of come off. Yet not forget our club had a tough balancing act of getting a higher quality defender in they want, at the price they want and in a salary structure, and in a transfer window messed up with players on holidays and existing contracts. Ontop of that NC had to spend time chasing other players which took for ever. Ramierze anyone! How hard and how much time did NC take up in getting this player in,having to deal with two clubs money grabbing egos! Hoo and Fonte need to step up their personal games, and I believe they will! In NA the club need to show a bit of faith in the guy, and also we all need to reach out and help the man to do his job and players too. As a club all pulling in the same direction and getting behind NA in every way/ level, will only lead to NA success in this league for sure! Yes he needs to tighten up our defence and NA knows this. If we stick with NA we will reap the rewards of a good up and coming manager, and please remember he may be under a demanding chairman in NC which is only good for the club future and NA seems to accept this status quo too. Let's not be short sighted and look for quick firer result now in change of leadership, as this is not the answer. NC has not promised us the league in our first season back. Simply given time and support all Saints fans soon will sit back and smile at having NA in charge, and the others will soon forget that they wished him gone! But that football, and I for one believe in and give NA has my total support to take Saints on to the promise land! Saint.
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4:35pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Dellgirl wrote:
A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem?

It was never going to work was it?
It does look like it bar a miracle ! well you can look forward to the derbies next season brighton , bournemouth , pompey perhaps reading and even crawley
[quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: A league one team with one expensive addition trying to survive in the Prem? It was never going to work was it?[/p][/quote]It does look like it bar a miracle ! well you can look forward to the derbies next season brighton , bournemouth , pompey perhaps reading and even crawley bluewhiteandred
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4:37pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Dickosfc says...

QPR are 1 up.… early days I know but I'm sure we've had better weekends!! Fu#king sh!te!!! Just watched the goals we leaked, Sunday league defenders on premiership wages!! Not looking forward to seeing my west ham colleagues tomorrow!
QPR are 1 up.… early days I know but I'm sure we've had better weekends!! Fu#king sh!te!!! Just watched the goals we leaked, Sunday league defenders on premiership wages!! Not looking forward to seeing my west ham colleagues tomorrow! Dickosfc
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4:37pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I can not believe there are people who believe Rednap should return. Shame on you all.
He has been to court where he admitted his dog had bank accounts that he forgot about , he cannot write that well and finds complicated numbers a challenge. That speaks everything I need to know for his capabilities. As for character, HELLO ! He was here before REMEMBER ??? AND WHAT DID HIS "PROVEN PREMIERSHIP ABILITY" DO FOR US THEN?? . And why do you think his "proven ability" hasn'rt been snaped up ? For pity's sake he has been shown up for what he is. He is only good for a comedy turn on MOTD.

I still think the majority want Adkins to stay.

But some of these posts remind of a Sunday in 1976 when we paraded the Cup around Southampton. I was standing on the old rose gardens listening to McMenemeny when he made a very good point. said the difference between Southampton fans and Newcastle fans was that they would have turned out on Sunday even if they lost. The crowd largely ignored that comment. But it rings true when you read some of the pitiful whimpering in some of these posts.

There are those among you who would rather have an illiterate crook running this club than stand by a man of ability and integrity.

I know who the posters are on here who have a balanced and well intentioned perspective. I shall continue to read those with interest.

The rest of you should hang your heads and go back to the dark corners. Because I know that as soon as the results turn, and they will, you will scurry out of the dark and be denying you ever came out with the bile I see on these posts.

And we support the same team?

Do we?
We do. There's a "few" (of the blue persuation) who don't though.

Constructive criticism is fine, but one or two posters on here are skates trying to stir it.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I can not believe there are people who believe Rednap should return. Shame on you all. He has been to court where he admitted his dog had bank accounts that he forgot about , he cannot write that well and finds complicated numbers a challenge. That speaks everything I need to know for his capabilities. As for character, HELLO ! He was here before REMEMBER ??? AND WHAT DID HIS "PROVEN PREMIERSHIP ABILITY" DO FOR US THEN?? . And why do you think his "proven ability" hasn'rt been snaped up ? For pity's sake he has been shown up for what he is. He is only good for a comedy turn on MOTD. I still think the majority want Adkins to stay. But some of these posts remind of a Sunday in 1976 when we paraded the Cup around Southampton. I was standing on the old rose gardens listening to McMenemeny when he made a very good point. said the difference between Southampton fans and Newcastle fans was that they would have turned out on Sunday even if they lost. The crowd largely ignored that comment. But it rings true when you read some of the pitiful whimpering in some of these posts. There are those among you who would rather have an illiterate crook running this club than stand by a man of ability and integrity. I know who the posters are on here who have a balanced and well intentioned perspective. I shall continue to read those with interest. The rest of you should hang your heads and go back to the dark corners. Because I know that as soon as the results turn, and they will, you will scurry out of the dark and be denying you ever came out with the bile I see on these posts. And we support the same team? Do we?[/p][/quote]We do. There's a "few" (of the blue persuation) who don't though. Constructive criticism is fine, but one or two posters on here are skates trying to stir it. Baddesley Bill
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4:47pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

hope redknapp does not become saints manager if atkins gets sack he nearly kept you up once and he kept pompey up ! dont go their Harry please no no no no no no
hope redknapp does not become saints manager if atkins gets sack he nearly kept you up once and he kept pompey up ! dont go their Harry please no no no no no no bluewhiteandred
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4:53pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
2701..you sound like a glory MUFCO fan..eff off I want us to be more than small time wonder horses..give it up for the bigger vision FFs.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]2701..you sound like a glory MUFCO fan..eff off I want us to be more than small time wonder horses..give it up for the bigger vision FFs. warrens 76
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4:53pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
2701..you sound like a glory MUFCO fan..eff off I want us to be more than small time wonder horses..give it up for the bigger vision FFs.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]2701..you sound like a glory MUFCO fan..eff off I want us to be more than small time wonder horses..give it up for the bigger vision FFs. warrens 76
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4:56pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW
Ah! Yes the 6:17 p.m. post which absolutely no one responded to, I guess it was so negative and full of spelling errors they thought you were just one of the regular trolls with a different identity. Todays effort is very similar so you may not get a reasoned response.
[quote][p][bold]buster gutt[/bold] wrote: Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW[/p][/quote]Ah! Yes the 6:17 p.m. post which absolutely no one responded to, I guess it was so negative and full of spelling errors they thought you were just one of the regular trolls with a different identity. Todays effort is very similar so you may not get a reasoned response. OSPREYSAINT
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5:05pm Sun 21 Oct 12

JohnItaly says...

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW
Whilst having no wish to go back on to the managerial merry go-round I would be a little concerned as to what players we would be able to retain in the event of relegation. Despite "long term" contracts they do contain the inevitable release clauses that can be triggered by a player. I cannot see the likes of Ramirez being happy in the Championship. One must question having tasted Premiership football would Lallana, Schneiderlin, Clyne and Cork remain if lucrative offers came from Premiership clubs or if NC could turn down big money offers. Our youth policy would be under pressure with the likes of Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea hovering to take our best youngsters.

NC/NA are building a team based on youth which does bode well for the future as long as that future lies in the Premiership.

I am of the opinion relegation would require the team to be re-built and lessons culd be learnt from Lawrie Mac who built a squad based on experience. The 5 year plan would need revising.

Like all of us I do not have any answers to get us out of our current predicament. What I do believe is with a full squad and a couple of good results behind us confidence will be restored and the Saints wil return to winning ways.
[quote][p][bold]buster gutt[/bold] wrote: Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW[/p][/quote]Whilst having no wish to go back on to the managerial merry go-round I would be a little concerned as to what players we would be able to retain in the event of relegation. Despite "long term" contracts they do contain the inevitable release clauses that can be triggered by a player. I cannot see the likes of Ramirez being happy in the Championship. One must question having tasted Premiership football would Lallana, Schneiderlin, Clyne and Cork remain if lucrative offers came from Premiership clubs or if NC could turn down big money offers. Our youth policy would be under pressure with the likes of Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea hovering to take our best youngsters. NC/NA are building a team based on youth which does bode well for the future as long as that future lies in the Premiership. I am of the opinion relegation would require the team to be re-built and lessons culd be learnt from Lawrie Mac who built a squad based on experience. The 5 year plan would need revising. Like all of us I do not have any answers to get us out of our current predicament. What I do believe is with a full squad and a couple of good results behind us confidence will be restored and the Saints wil return to winning ways. JohnItaly
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5:10pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?
Because he's never heard of them.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal. Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow. Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?[/p][/quote]Because he's never heard of them. Baddesley Bill
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5:13pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Linesman says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:-

1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working

2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling

3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up.

4. Us fans are fantastic COYR
Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.
Which parts did you disagee with?

With all the criticism on this site, No 4 is certainly in doubt.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Fellow fans - I think we will all agree to this:- 1. NC runs this club and as a business -this is just is not working 2. NA is just not up to it - his selections and subs are just baffling 3. The players have been - as a rule - very average. They all need to step up. 4. Us fans are fantastic COYR[/p][/quote]Sorry mate, but you're off your head if you think you speak for all of us. Next time, before you think of starting off with such a sweeping generalisation, why don't you peruse some of the preceding posts? You most certainly do not speak for me.[/p][/quote]Which parts did you disagee with? With all the criticism on this site, No 4 is certainly in doubt. Linesman
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5:15pm Sun 21 Oct 12

boondocksaint08 says...

TheJoiners wrote:
Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA.
He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me.
For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans.
People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear.
Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what??
REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)
Well said mate! It's been a while since I've been on here but give Nigel time, while I don't agree with some of his lineups and substitutions at times I still believe he is our man for the future and needs to be given longer. Switching now will create uncertainty and let's be honest, would you rather have fishy faced Harry in doing the job?
[quote][p][bold]TheJoiners[/bold] wrote: Ive been watching Saints for 35 years and it saddens me the way people are talking about NA. He has given me two of the best years in all that time, yes it might have been mainly Pardews team but it was NA who brought us to the so called Premier league, Div One sounds better to me. For what he has done he deserves a season, i really dont give a flying if we go down, it holds no fear to proper Saints fans. People talking about Harry the Thief need to see a doctor first thing monday morning, shal we bring back Rupert while were at it, dear oh dear. Get a grip, we are 9 games in and if we can finish 2 places above where we are then we have had a good season, if not so what?? REAL SAints fan, through thin and thin :-)[/p][/quote]Well said mate! It's been a while since I've been on here but give Nigel time, while I don't agree with some of his lineups and substitutions at times I still believe he is our man for the future and needs to be given longer. Switching now will create uncertainty and let's be honest, would you rather have fishy faced Harry in doing the job? boondocksaint08
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5:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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5:19pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Beckyfromsholing says...

Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions. He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long Beckyfromsholing
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5:20pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Linesman says...

F Fan wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong
To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that.
The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese.
The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders.
To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need.
Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”
You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.
Yes, he will. Bankers ran very big businesses - didn't mean they what they were speaking about with respect to their own industry, far less a football business.

Keven Keegan as director of football - words fail me.
"........didn'tmean they what they were speaking...."

"Keven Keegan......."


It would appear that you were correct when you ended by saying 'words fail me.'
[quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: i was severely criticized for having a go at what I felt was blind adulation of Cortese and Adkins and for saying that Saints recruitment policy was all wrong To me it was more than obvious and while I commend the club for investing in youth to put all their eggs in that basket was plain fool'hardy. Saints need experienced premiership players its as simple as that. The Liebherrs need to step in and put this situation right if necessary by getting rid of Cortese. The man does not appear to take advice but has limited experience of running a football cub and one whatever of a club in the Premiership. I dont want to be too hard on him but he needs to learn quickly if Saints are to survive in the Premiership. Either Adkins must go or a top director of football needs to be brought in to get the right players in especially defenders. To be frank this needs to happen right now. In my book the club needs to consider bringing in Kevin Keegan as director he would definitely be able to get the personnel we need. Have a go at me all you want but I have run a largish business and the principles are the same you need the right people in the right positions or you are sunk.”[/p][/quote]You will not be criticised tonight, the GANG are having a night off.[/p][/quote]Yes, he will. Bankers ran very big businesses - didn't mean they what they were speaking about with respect to their own industry, far less a football business. Keven Keegan as director of football - words fail me.[/p][/quote]"........didn'tmean they what they were speaking...." "Keven Keegan......." It would appear that you were correct when you ended by saying 'words fail me.' Linesman
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5:22pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW
nuff said..my vote.
[quote][p][bold]buster gutt[/bold] wrote: Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW[/p][/quote]nuff said..my vote. warrens 76
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5:24pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Wakefield Saint says...

mustard wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right..

Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right...

I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we?

I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.
quite right, I'll be delighted with 17th place and continuity this season, we're only a win from where we need to be and it's far too early for panic or knee jerk reactions...
Well said ! I agree, too soon to panic! Lets kept the faith.

COYR !!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mustard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Let us all take a step back...instant bought success a la pompey..yeah right.. Changeing managers like whores change underpants under Lowe, yeah right... I would rather go down with NA and his code, than be part of the superficial here today gone tomorrow cr*p that is modern PL football...come on we are not plastic fans, are we? I tell you for for nothing this man and his decent philosophy will ultimately reach the promised land..today no, tomorrow no, two or three seasons yes..please think big..he is learning, let him and the team absorb lessons, instant gratification, come on do not be stupid..it does not work in love, life or football.[/p][/quote]quite right, I'll be delighted with 17th place and continuity this season, we're only a win from where we need to be and it's far too early for panic or knee jerk reactions...[/p][/quote]Well said ! I agree, too soon to panic! Lets kept the faith. COYR !!!!!!!! Wakefield Saint
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5:26pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mack chinnon says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?
Who ????
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal. Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow. Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?[/p][/quote]Who ???? mack chinnon
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5:31pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?
Because he's never heard of you!

STID
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal. Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow. Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?[/p][/quote]Because he's never heard of you! STID st1halo
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5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long
You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it?
Cortese is more intelligent than that
[quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions. He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long[/p][/quote]You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it? Cortese is more intelligent than that Abbey Saint
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5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint says...

Only just got home from the game, as I treated myself to a London hotel package now that prices are affordable again after the Olympics. But even a night out in the West End was overshadowed by a despondent mood. What a shambles we were in the second half! I can just about understand putting Rickie on the bench, to mix up the formation and confuse the opposition’s planning – then use him as an impact player later. But surely he should have been brought on at the start of the second half, not wait until we were losing?? And how can the new young keeper be first choice ahead of KD for a few games and then not even make the bench yesterday despite not being injured??

Spurs yesterday showed they can ship goals and they might just be vulnerable next weekend. But after that our next realistic chance of getting any points on the board is home to Swansea, and as well as a test on the pitch that will be a big test of support with crowd numbers threatening to dwindle. Lots of people on here are looking ahead to the January window, but what players will want to join us if by then we are 10 points adrift and odds-on to be relegated??
Only just got home from the game, as I treated myself to a London hotel package now that prices are affordable again after the Olympics. But even a night out in the West End was overshadowed by a despondent mood. What a shambles we were in the second half! I can just about understand putting Rickie on the bench, to mix up the formation and confuse the opposition’s planning – then use him as an impact player later. But surely he should have been brought on at the start of the second half, not wait until we were losing?? And how can the new young keeper be first choice ahead of KD for a few games and then not even make the bench yesterday despite not being injured?? Spurs yesterday showed they can ship goals and they might just be vulnerable next weekend. But after that our next realistic chance of getting any points on the board is home to Swansea, and as well as a test on the pitch that will be a big test of support with crowd numbers threatening to dwindle. Lots of people on here are looking ahead to the January window, but what players will want to join us if by then we are 10 points adrift and odds-on to be relegated?? Crossley Place Saint
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5:34pm Sun 21 Oct 12

joelster says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.
that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here.
And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.[/p][/quote]that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here. And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great! joelster
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5:36pm Sun 21 Oct 12

mikesugar says...

Watched the game yesterday and it was a very poor performance. Poor team selection to start with and the defensive set up naive to say the least. The team has been misfiring since before the end of last season and the management team have not dealt with the issues in defense. Time to change if we want to stay in the EPL.
Watched the game yesterday and it was a very poor performance. Poor team selection to start with and the defensive set up naive to say the least. The team has been misfiring since before the end of last season and the management team have not dealt with the issues in defense. Time to change if we want to stay in the EPL. mikesugar
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5:39pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Crossley Place Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.
Can you post the link please Osprey? The NA/NC situation worries me and I'd like to see that story. Ta!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.[/p][/quote]Can you post the link please Osprey? The NA/NC situation worries me and I'd like to see that story. Ta! Crossley Place Saint
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5:40pm Sun 21 Oct 12

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

Thought I'd post this again, as I'm not sure that the Doom and Gloom brigade bother reading through all the comments on this thread. My response was in support of an earlier posting made by a Saints fan who made some bloody good points and asked some really pertinent questions of all of us!

"Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'identikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR."

And I'll add to the above by saying to all those baying for Nigel's head - be careful what you wish for.
Thought I'd post this again, as I'm not sure that the Doom and Gloom brigade bother reading through all the comments on this thread. My response was in support of an earlier posting made by a Saints fan who made some bloody good points and asked some really pertinent questions of all of us! "Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'identikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR." And I'll add to the above by saying to all those baying for Nigel's head - be careful what you wish for. ramptonfromsouthampton
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5:42pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.
Like i said, its not my, yours or mouthy above's call, as if NC would read this for advice. I'm merely saying i'll support who ever NC chooses to replace NA, if its Harry, so beit, he couldn't do much worse than NA is doing at the moment.

Huddlestone and Dawson on loan in January, yes please!!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.[/p][/quote]Like i said, its not my, yours or mouthy above's call, as if NC would read this for advice. I'm merely saying i'll support who ever NC chooses to replace NA, if its Harry, so beit, he couldn't do much worse than NA is doing at the moment. Huddlestone and Dawson on loan in January, yes please!!! Saint 2701
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5:46pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

joelster wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.
that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here.
And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great!
Ha! Certainly did a great job bankrupting the Skates
[quote][p][bold]joelster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.[/p][/quote]that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here. And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great![/p][/quote]Ha! Certainly did a great job bankrupting the Skates Abbey Saint
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5:53pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!!



STID
I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!! STID st1halo
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5:58pm Sun 21 Oct 12

circa 66 saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
buster gutt wrote:
Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man
I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW
nuff said..my vote.
about 30,000 saints fans now we are premiership,
about 25,000 fans when we were championship.
around 20,000 in league 1 this i would reckon would be our hard core fan base the true fans no matter what.
less than 300 people posting and giving opinions on this thread of which a small minority want N.A. sacked.
hardly a significant number?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buster gutt[/bold] wrote: Yestreday I wrote on Game site that I tought Nigel would be gone by Christmas and I still think that will happen if we go on losing whether it's 1:0 or 10:0>but I would be unhappy if that happens NC should stick by his man I would rather be in the championship with Nigel than in unforgiving league with someone else.Let's as a club buck the trend and show loyalty to our man.Nigel is the most liked manager we've had and given time will become the very best manager we've had.I will support him and Saints in whatever division. He's as much on alearning curve as 90% of the squad so for goodness sake NC give him time. Falling on deaf ears I think he nows needs to publicly support his man NOW[/p][/quote]nuff said..my vote.[/p][/quote]about 30,000 saints fans now we are premiership, about 25,000 fans when we were championship. around 20,000 in league 1 this i would reckon would be our hard core fan base the true fans no matter what. less than 300 people posting and giving opinions on this thread of which a small minority want N.A. sacked. hardly a significant number? circa 66 saint
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6:02pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Well, I've been giving it some thought and, after reading some absolute b0ll0cks (time to go Nigel etc.), some common sense and an occasional bit of humour, I've decided it's time that I became a miserable bl00dy armchair critic.

I think I speak for all of us on here - FACT - when I say that the armchair I'm sat in right now is absolute pants. It's giving me a hell of a backache and the upholstery is so last century. So, come on NC, sack the armchair, sack the designer, sack IKEA and bring in a tried and tested, well-padded model from a quality supplier with premiership experience.

Oh, and as most of those who think they know better than Nigel are cr4p at spelling and grammar I have to end by saying thatif you desigree with me your rong.

Now, armchair rant over, PLEEZZZZZ everyone, by all means question decisions and suggest alternatives but get off the 'sack Nigel bandwagon', remember how far we've come in two short years, take a peek along the M27, stop mentioning Hoddle, Twitchy or Keegan and get behind our team and manager.
Well, I've been giving it some thought and, after reading some absolute b0ll0cks (time to go Nigel etc.), some common sense and an occasional bit of humour, I've decided it's time that I became a miserable bl00dy armchair critic. I think I speak for all of us on here - FACT - when I say that the armchair I'm sat in right now is absolute pants. It's giving me a hell of a backache and the upholstery is so last century. So, come on NC, sack the armchair, sack the designer, sack IKEA and bring in a tried and tested, well-padded model from a quality supplier with premiership experience. Oh, and as most of those who think they know better than Nigel are cr4p at spelling and grammar I have to end by saying thatif you desigree with me your rong. Now, armchair rant over, PLEEZZZZZ everyone, by all means question decisions and suggest alternatives but get off the 'sack Nigel bandwagon', remember how far we've come in two short years, take a peek along the M27, stop mentioning Hoddle, Twitchy or Keegan and get behind our team and manager. Strasbourg Saint
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6:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.
Can you post the link please Osprey? The NA/NC situation worries me and I'd like to see that story. Ta!
Just log into not606.com it's on one of the threads
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just seen some gossip on another site that NC is not involved with football side at all, just signs the cheques, the "villain" of the piece is Les Reed, could be untrue but makes sense.[/p][/quote]Can you post the link please Osprey? The NA/NC situation worries me and I'd like to see that story. Ta![/p][/quote]Just log into not606.com it's on one of the threads OSPREYSAINT
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6:07pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

ramptonfromsouthampt
on
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Thought I'd post this again, as I'm not sure that the Doom and Gloom brigade bother reading through all the comments on this thread. My response was in support of an earlier posting made by a Saints fan who made some bloody good points and asked some really pertinent questions of all of us!

"Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'identikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR."

And I'll add to the above by saying to all those baying for Nigel's head - be careful what you wish for.
I did not write it, but posted similar, NA yes, change no..we all make mistakes.
[quote][p][bold]ramptonfromsouthampt on[/bold] wrote: Thought I'd post this again, as I'm not sure that the Doom and Gloom brigade bother reading through all the comments on this thread. My response was in support of an earlier posting made by a Saints fan who made some bloody good points and asked some really pertinent questions of all of us! "Yep, I'm with you on that too. Reckon it's gonna continue to be painful from time to time, but ultimately, I'd rather feel attached to something that was attained with the right attitude and for the right reason. There's so much that's wrong with football and so many people in denial of it. There's been plenty of reminders that's for sure. So what's wrong with taking the risks involved if the end result really is something that actually resembles the 'beautiful game'? I'd rather have that than any of the other options to be honest. I don't want Saints to just end up as another 'identikit' mid-table Premiership team making up the numbers. I like the future thinking. I like the idea of one day in the hopefully not-too-distant future, fielding a side stuffed with amazing players that we pretty much created out of the Academy. I like the idea of us playing football that really is beautiful to watch, AND gets results. I can't see any of that ever happening if we bring in another manager, especially some of the dinosaurs I've seen mentioned here recently. NA stays as far as I am concerned. COYR." And I'll add to the above by saying to all those baying for Nigel's head - be careful what you wish for.[/p][/quote]I did not write it, but posted similar, NA yes, change no..we all make mistakes. warrens 76
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6:08pm Sun 21 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

st1halo wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal.

Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow.

Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?
Because he's never heard of you!

STID
Heard of who?
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: According to Glasgow Rangers’ chief executive, Saints are a small club and are being subsidised by the likes of Arsenal. Englishman Charles Green, the Ibrox supremo, thinks the big clubs don’t want this to continue and will soon be setting up a European Super League – naturally including the blue side of Glasgow. Your not doing anything on the field to rubbish Mr charles green comments ! lets face it he never picked on Pompey why ?[/p][/quote]Because he's never heard of you! STID[/p][/quote]Heard of who? warrens 76
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6:09pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

st1halo wrote:
I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!!



STID
.. not to mention the parachute payment.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!! STID[/p][/quote].. not to mention the parachute payment. OSPREYSAINT
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6:09pm Sun 21 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??.

If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed.
Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??.
We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change.
West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play.
I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager.
COYR wear the shirt with pride.
I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1.
The score at half time means jacksh!t.
Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.
Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.
Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better.
If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team.
None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.
Thanks for the advice and councilling hedge end bob.
A couple of things.... are you saying that when the team does well (1st half yesterday) it is down to the manager.

But when the team are abysmal (2nd half) it is down to the players.

You think I should still support and encourage when things go wrong, but in the second half of your post you have had a go at the keeper and the player in CAPITAL LETTERS.

Have i read your post wrong because I'm not to sure I am getting what you are trying to point out.
Costagaz, if you misunderstood my opion of the second half let me try and explain myself better.
I am getting just a little bit fed up with the posters that wait until something happens where they can have a go at the manager. Yesterday in the first half we marked their players and in general kept them very quiet. i feel they played that way under Nigel's instructions, we played as a team.
In the second half the players done none of this. I can only assume that the managers instructions at half time would of been the same as the first, i saw a different performance from the same players, The free kick was a terrible piece of defending. The goalie, who looked dodgy all afternoon, should of took control and come out for the ball. Instead he did nothing, result one down. In the next minute we loose the ball midfield and our centre back runs back towards his own goal without moving out towards the player with the ball which, allows him to run unchallanged into the penalty area and cross the ball to an unmarked man at the far post. TWO goals in two minutes all because, IMO the players switched off and did not follow the managers instructions. Now that to me is down to the players who are out on the pitch. The manager stood on the touch line had the same powers as me stood behind the goal to stop the goals being scored. Yet you get posters having a go at Nigel when they should be venting their anger at the players.
If you had been stood next to me at the game you would of seen me singing and trying to lift the team all the game as i will be at the next game, but that still dont change my opion that the PLAYERS were to blame for the defeat not the manager.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Can i ask how many of you posters were at the game today??. If you were there you would of seen a performance in the first half where Wet Spam hardly got into our half. Hardly saw the ball and was chasing shadows. Yes Nigel has made mistakes , one, IMO paying . Seven million for J ROD was a waste of money. No better than a championship player. Would rather he swopped places with Billy Sharpe !!. Two he should start with Ricky Lambert , you do not leave your main man sat on his arse to watch chances missed. Ok your calling for the managers head on a plate.....who are you going to bring in and how many games do you think the new man would take to build a team to your liking??. We have had two seasons of winning game after game. We are not use to keep on losing and naturally we don't like it. But to keep on changing managers is not the answer. Also it's the players that should be looking at theirselfs and saying "at the moment i am not doing the shirt justice and from the next game that is going to change. West Ham players today were going to ground at the slightest touch and the referee went along with it. Our goalkeeper today did not instill confidence on the terrace so god knows what it did for the defenders on the field of play. I M O we have to give the present manager til christmas to put things right . The last time we kept changing managers in one season we went down. If we start doing that again we will almost certainly go down the same road. I dont like losing no more than the next man but i for one will still back the manager. COYR wear the shirt with pride.[/p][/quote]I watched the whole game live and although we were good for 45 mins we lost 4-1. The score at half time means jacksh!t.[/p][/quote]Could'nt find time to go and support the team (if you ever do? ) but could watch it live,says it all ffs.[/p][/quote]Living 1600 kms away is my lame excuse for not attending too many games.[/p][/quote]Living so far away and you know to the letter what is wrong. Sorry mate get on your bike. I assume you have had children ??. Tell me if or when they did not live up to your high expectations did you tell them they were crap and had to go or did you support them and try to encourage them to do better. If you saw the game you would of seen Nigel on the touch line trying to support and encurage the players to follow his game plan. It worked in the first half as was stated by the supporters who was there. It looked like a game we could WIN!!!. Then in the first seconds of the second half our goalie did NOTHING TO STOP THEIR FIRST GOAL. After that the payers that done so well in the first half just fell apart. How ffs can any manager stood on the touch line do anything about that. How about you load of tozzers having a go at the players. ALL FOUR GOALS WERE DOWN TO THEM, NOT THE MANAGER. He showed that his job on the day was working in the first half. Have another look at the tele and just watch our PLAYERS ACTIONS when the goals were scored. On another look at the problem how can you blame the manager if, as stated by some that Nicola is picking the team. None of us likes the way the team are playing but lets ALL get behind and support them to try and lift them up. If you cant do that then support another team ffs.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the advice and councilling hedge end bob. A couple of things.... are you saying that when the team does well (1st half yesterday) it is down to the manager. But when the team are abysmal (2nd half) it is down to the players. You think I should still support and encourage when things go wrong, but in the second half of your post you have had a go at the keeper and the player in CAPITAL LETTERS. Have i read your post wrong because I'm not to sure I am getting what you are trying to point out.[/p][/quote]Costagaz, if you misunderstood my opion of the second half let me try and explain myself better. I am getting just a little bit fed up with the posters that wait until something happens where they can have a go at the manager. Yesterday in the first half we marked their players and in general kept them very quiet. i feel they played that way under Nigel's instructions, we played as a team. In the second half the players done none of this. I can only assume that the managers instructions at half time would of been the same as the first, i saw a different performance from the same players, The free kick was a terrible piece of defending. The goalie, who looked dodgy all afternoon, should of took control and come out for the ball. Instead he did nothing, result one down. In the next minute we loose the ball midfield and our centre back runs back towards his own goal without moving out towards the player with the ball which, allows him to run unchallanged into the penalty area and cross the ball to an unmarked man at the far post. TWO goals in two minutes all because, IMO the players switched off and did not follow the managers instructions. Now that to me is down to the players who are out on the pitch. The manager stood on the touch line had the same powers as me stood behind the goal to stop the goals being scored. Yet you get posters having a go at Nigel when they should be venting their anger at the players. If you had been stood next to me at the game you would of seen me singing and trying to lift the team all the game as i will be at the next game, but that still dont change my opion that the PLAYERS were to blame for the defeat not the manager. hedge end bob
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6:09pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH bluewhiteandred
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6:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

ps Was bad luck with 12m Ramirez injury also
ps Was bad luck with 12m Ramirez injury also bluewhiteandred
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6:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

joelster wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Tony in Liberia wrote:
1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas.

2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to!

3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies?

4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them!
Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary.

I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been.

This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk.

Come on NC make the call so we can move on!
We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage
Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..
At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan.

Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents!

Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name!
You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.
that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here.
And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great!
Harry managed Bournemouth, West Ham, Pompey, Saints and Spurs. Only Spurs didn't end up in financial chaos. When he was allowed to spend at Pompey he did great as you say. It nearly, and still might, cost them their club.

As a matter of interest could you clarify the following two points for me:

The Leibherrs make a thing about being honest and honourable in business. How on earth do you propose to them that they should employ a thief who will steal 10% of every deal he does from their pockets? For it is the pockets of the owners of the clubs that he is fingering. You want them to look the other way or what?

Please explain to me the dynamics of the relationship you are proposing - Redknapp and Cortese. I'd be very interested to know how you intend for that to work over any meaningful period of time?

Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]joelster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: 1. I repeat my offer to bet £100 that Nigel will still be our manager at Christmas. 2. All the people asking for a new manager have one flaw in their argument; none of the people suggested give me any confidence that they could do better. Harry? my god... I've even heard Keegan... There ARE no good, proven Prem managers out there, so we CAN'T get one even if we want to! 3. WHo are these mythical brilliant defenders we are supposed to sign? Name one? Or goalies? 4. What we have is what we have. Let's bl**dy support them![/p][/quote]Sorry mate, as much as Harry stiched us up, he's definetely a good proven prem manager, your be plain stupid to argue to the contrary. I would personally back any new manager that gets us results. Reason being i remember last time we were relegated, everyone thought we would bounce straight back up but we lost all our players and youth prospects who are now arguably up there with the best and ended up with the likes of Dmal Belmadi, darren powell and co with everyone mulling over what could have been. This is our chance to take that next step up and Nigel's tactical shockers are simply too much of a risk. Come on NC make the call so we can move on![/p][/quote]We are all in the same boat, but HR is definitely Not Required On Voyage[/p][/quote]Ok Saint 2701..you can stay with a mate, a friend if you will, who has shown decency, honest and loyalty, he has produced the goods for youfor two years but is having a major Hiccup, or you can choose a mercenary, spendthrift dodgy individual who may garner some media plaudit's..."F Off" give me Championship and credibility with a future vision..whatever you do, do not give me a dinosaur of "dubious" standing..[/p][/quote]At the end of the day Cortese will make the call, if he chooses Redknapp your'll have to man up and back the team if your a fan. Oh and im pretty sure this vision statement is not to be playing championship football with prem teams poaching our talents! Im quite excited that a manager of his calibre is even being talked about, and if he does tale over and suceeds, i'll be laughing when people like you are cheering his name![/p][/quote]You seem to have over looked one small detail - Harry Redknapp took us down.[/p][/quote]that's an ignorant statement. It was clear to everyone that Harry was not allowed to spend- not the case here. And also, when Harry has been able to spend he does great![/p][/quote]Harry managed Bournemouth, West Ham, Pompey, Saints and Spurs. Only Spurs didn't end up in financial chaos. When he was allowed to spend at Pompey he did great as you say. It nearly, and still might, cost them their club. As a matter of interest could you clarify the following two points for me: The Leibherrs make a thing about being honest and honourable in business. How on earth do you propose to them that they should employ a thief who will steal 10% of every deal he does from their pockets? For it is the pockets of the owners of the clubs that he is fingering. You want them to look the other way or what? Please explain to me the dynamics of the relationship you are proposing - Redknapp and Cortese. I'd be very interested to know how you intend for that to work over any meaningful period of time? Thanks. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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6:12pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself! Baddesley Bill
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6:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

HE Bob, some good posts. Thank you for saying much of what I've been thinking today.
HE Bob, some good posts. Thank you for saying much of what I've been thinking today. Strasbourg Saint
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6:29pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself![/p][/quote]baddesley bill wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated bluewhiteandred
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6:32pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated
Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself![/p][/quote]baddesley bill wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated[/p][/quote]Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O) Baddesley Bill
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6:39pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

For the record I am NOT on the 'sack Nigel bandwagon' as yet.We all like him. As I have stated in previous posts I have always had doubts about his tactical ability (my only doubt) and IF this situation is not resolved and results don't improve, then he is plainly not up to the job and therefore must go.The club is bigger than any one person and needs to move forward, no matter how much we like him. It does no good to bury our heads in the sand the last time that happened we nearly lost the club!. Dean Hammond was let go because he wasn't deemed good enough for the prem, NA shouldn't be judged on any other basis.It is not what we want, and too early to judge at the moment but that doesn't mean the time will not come

One thing I'd like to add.... there is a lot of talk about NC picking the team. It needs to be pointed out that this is pure speculation backed up with not one shred of evidence. If it is not true it puts NA's decision making in an even poorer light than it is now

I hope NA can turn this around as much for him as the rest of us

STID
For the record I am NOT on the 'sack Nigel bandwagon' as yet.We all like him. As I have stated in previous posts I have always had doubts about his tactical ability (my only doubt) and IF this situation is not resolved and results don't improve, then he is plainly not up to the job and therefore must go.The club is bigger than any one person and needs to move forward, no matter how much we like him. It does no good to bury our heads in the sand the last time that happened we nearly lost the club!. Dean Hammond was let go because he wasn't deemed good enough for the prem, NA shouldn't be judged on any other basis.It is not what we want, and too early to judge at the moment but that doesn't mean the time will not come One thing I'd like to add.... there is a lot of talk about NC picking the team. It needs to be pointed out that this is pure speculation backed up with not one shred of evidence. If it is not true it puts NA's decision making in an even poorer light than it is now I hope NA can turn this around as much for him as the rest of us STID st1halo
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6:40pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Lone Ranger. says...

UNless someone can tell me different it is true to say .............
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No team has ever been presented with the Title trophy in October.
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No team to my knowledge has ever been relegated in October.
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There is one hell of a long way to go yet so i certainly wont be asking for NA's head on a platter.
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Yes the opening few games have been worse that expected ......... Yes the defence has proven to be poor ... at best ........... and Yes there is now a certain lacking of confidence, i think, in the team.
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But putting extra pressure on NA and his coaching staff is not the answer and i genuinely believe that NC knows that.
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To my knowledge only one player has graced the Prem before, (Kelvin D ) so this is one hell of a learning curve for the entire club.
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NA needs more time to bring things together, the players must start getting over their naievity now and start to compete at this great level.
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I believe that with NA as manager we will be ok ...... dont forget there are anther 5-6 teams that are just a couple points away from us and a win or two will be great for morale ..... for EVERYONE involved ...... players and supporters.
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Everyone needs to keep the faith as this clubs needs their support now .... probably more than ever .....
UNless someone can tell me different it is true to say ............. . No team has ever been presented with the Title trophy in October. . No team to my knowledge has ever been relegated in October. . There is one hell of a long way to go yet so i certainly wont be asking for NA's head on a platter. . Yes the opening few games have been worse that expected ......... Yes the defence has proven to be poor ... at best ........... and Yes there is now a certain lacking of confidence, i think, in the team. . But putting extra pressure on NA and his coaching staff is not the answer and i genuinely believe that NC knows that. . To my knowledge only one player has graced the Prem before, (Kelvin D ) so this is one hell of a learning curve for the entire club. . NA needs more time to bring things together, the players must start getting over their naievity now and start to compete at this great level. . I believe that with NA as manager we will be ok ...... dont forget there are anther 5-6 teams that are just a couple points away from us and a win or two will be great for morale ..... for EVERYONE involved ...... players and supporters. . Everyone needs to keep the faith as this clubs needs their support now .... probably more than ever ..... Lone Ranger.
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6:41pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings? OSPREYSAINT
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6:41pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?
Decipher this your next game Spurs 0 points then West Brom 0 points then Swansea 0 points then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ? bluewhiteandred
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6:41pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated
Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)
Yes, I think I can, Bill. It's the training I've had working out what French people with limited English are trying to write.

It says: Baddesley Bill, weren't Shrewsbury - the tiny team from a tiny town near Wales - in League 1 a few seasons ago when the mighty Saints, pride of the South, best team in Hampshire, with a clean and honourable history that skunts like me can but admire, were bought by the legend that IS Markus Leibherr the great at the same time as the skuntish few were preparing themselves for total collapse.

Pleased to be of service.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself![/p][/quote]baddesley bill wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated[/p][/quote]Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)[/p][/quote]Yes, I think I can, Bill. It's the training I've had working out what French people with limited English are trying to write. It says: Baddesley Bill, weren't Shrewsbury - the tiny team from a tiny town near Wales - in League 1 a few seasons ago when the mighty Saints, pride of the South, best team in Hampshire, with a clean and honourable history that skunts like me can but admire, were bought by the legend that IS Markus Leibherr the great at the same time as the skuntish few were preparing themselves for total collapse. Pleased to be of service. Strasbourg Saint
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6:43pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
st1halo wrote:
I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!!



STID
.. not to mention the parachute payment.
Yes, lets not mention it, it didn't do us much good last time

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: I can't believe people saying it will be fine to get relegated and would be happy back in the championship. It would be a disaster! Effecting sales, revenue, players, morale, the academy, attendences. It's taken 7 yrs to get back, let's not retrace our steps!!! STID[/p][/quote].. not to mention the parachute payment.[/p][/quote]Yes, lets not mention it, it didn't do us much good last time STID st1halo
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6:45pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated
Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)
Yes, I think I can, Bill. It's the training I've had working out what French people with limited English are trying to write.

It says: Baddesley Bill, weren't Shrewsbury - the tiny team from a tiny town near Wales - in League 1 a few seasons ago when the mighty Saints, pride of the South, best team in Hampshire, with a clean and honourable history that skunts like me can but admire, were bought by the legend that IS Markus Leibherr the great at the same time as the skuntish few were preparing themselves for total collapse.

Pleased to be of service.
I thank you :O)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself![/p][/quote]baddesley bill wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated[/p][/quote]Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)[/p][/quote]Yes, I think I can, Bill. It's the training I've had working out what French people with limited English are trying to write. It says: Baddesley Bill, weren't Shrewsbury - the tiny team from a tiny town near Wales - in League 1 a few seasons ago when the mighty Saints, pride of the South, best team in Hampshire, with a clean and honourable history that skunts like me can but admire, were bought by the legend that IS Markus Leibherr the great at the same time as the skuntish few were preparing themselves for total collapse. Pleased to be of service.[/p][/quote]I thank you :O) Baddesley Bill
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6:45pm Sun 21 Oct 12

circa 66 saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself!
baddesley bill
wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated
Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)
understanding skuntish is very difficult

speaking it is simple just talk out the back of your aspe
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]Who did you beat yesterday again? I could use a laugh meself![/p][/quote]baddesley bill wont SHREWSBURY in div 1 a few seasons ago when SAINTS were rescued twice not to be liquidated[/p][/quote]Can anyone decipher this comment for me please?...It's all skuntish to me! :O)[/p][/quote]understanding skuntish is very difficult speaking it is simple just talk out the back of your aspe circa 66 saint
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6:45pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Im off now let you guys argue over the next Manager , the next Win ,

see you soon happy skate
Im off now let you guys argue over the next Manager , the next Win , see you soon happy skate bluewhiteandred
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6:46pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Beckyfromsholing says...

Abbey Saint says...
5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12


Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long

You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it?
Cortese is more intelligent than that”

Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager !
Abbey Saint says... 5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12 Beckyfromsholing wrote: Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions. He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it? Cortese is more intelligent than that” Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager ! Beckyfromsholing
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6:47pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in." Strasbourg Saint
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6:49pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?
Come on Stevenage.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Decipher this your next game Spurs 0 points then West Brom 0 points then Swansea 0 points then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?[/p][/quote]Come on Stevenage. Baddesley Bill
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6:51pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?
That came across quite well what went wrong with others?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Decipher this your next game Spurs 0 points then West Brom 0 points then Swansea 0 points then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?[/p][/quote]That came across quite well what went wrong with others? OSPREYSAINT
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6:52pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."
Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS
PLAY UP POMPEY
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."[/p][/quote]Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS PLAY UP POMPEY bluewhiteandred
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6:54pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

For those baying for Adkins head I would say this: The person who does the sackings is also the person in charge of recruiting. If he has to sack his second manager in three years what makes you think he will get his third attempt right?
For those baying for Adkins head I would say this: The person who does the sackings is also the person in charge of recruiting. If he has to sack his second manager in three years what makes you think he will get his third attempt right? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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6:54pm Sun 21 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

Fact --- the whole of the Saints squad was seen at Staplewood at mid-day Sunday 21st October.
Were they called in for extra defensive training, to be told of managerial changes or to take on the building operations?
NC please tell us what is going on!!
Fact --- the whole of the Saints squad was seen at Staplewood at mid-day Sunday 21st October. Were they called in for extra defensive training, to be told of managerial changes or to take on the building operations? NC please tell us what is going on!! TEBOURBA
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6:55pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand..
He is saying
Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue
Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish


Hope that helps!

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand.. He is saying Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish Hope that helps! STID st1halo
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6:56pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?
That came across quite well what went wrong with others?
After QPR your season will be over !
PLAY UP POMPEY
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Decipher this your next game Spurs 0 points then West Brom 0 points then Swansea 0 points then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?[/p][/quote]That came across quite well what went wrong with others?[/p][/quote]After QPR your season will be over ! PLAY UP POMPEY bluewhiteandred
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6:58pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The poll in cae anyone is interested has gone to 128 keep 31 sack.
The poll in cae anyone is interested has gone to 128 keep 31 sack. OSPREYSAINT
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6:59pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."
Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS
PLAY UP POMPEY
Thought you were off?...You are proving yourself to be about as trustworthy as the average Pompey owner!
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."[/p][/quote]Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS PLAY UP POMPEY[/p][/quote]Thought you were off?...You are proving yourself to be about as trustworthy as the average Pompey owner! Baddesley Bill
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7:01pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand..
He is saying
Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue
Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish


Hope that helps!

STID
Funny ha ha ha ha stop stop stop " Entertaining" me you are better than jimmy carr
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand.. He is saying Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish Hope that helps! STID[/p][/quote]Funny ha ha ha ha stop stop stop " Entertaining" me you are better than jimmy carr bluewhiteandred
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7:03pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."
Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS
PLAY UP POMPEY
It wasn't going to be a good night but listening to your cr@p has cheered me right up with a good laugh. I was all doom and gloom but now I've thought about your lot, I realise everything is great


STID
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."[/p][/quote]Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS PLAY UP POMPEY[/p][/quote]It wasn't going to be a good night but listening to your cr@p has cheered me right up with a good laugh. I was all doom and gloom but now I've thought about your lot, I realise everything is great STID st1halo
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7:04pm Sun 21 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

all of you sofa managers need not worry, the new football manager 2013 game is out in a couple of weeks! and then you can go back to getting saints to the top of the league and winning in europe. i know, if you can do it why cant adkins! its easy this being a manager isnt it. you can then go and get in all the defenders you want! and pick the winning formation and do all the right subs at the right time.
just some thoughts for you though, NA cant put real life on easy mode! not all the players you bid for want to come here (in real life), you cant save and then go back and play a game again if you lose! your game never accounts poor refs and cheating players. oh if only it was as easy as it is in the game!
NA is managing a real team in the real world! dont try to second guess him just cause you can do better sat infront of your pc.
as some of you moaners are so good at saying `i told you so!` i will make a prediction for the spuds game so i can come back and say it myself.
i predict that we will win 2-1 and after that many of you wont be on here for a couple of days, however mgra will be here saying how we are doing all the wrong training and GR will be out untill decemburay, saint2701 will blame fox for the goal against regardless of weather he played or not, montecristosaint will say how right he was to have posted about the players we didnt buy and we should have won by more, dell girl will say NA picked the wrong formation, poopey fans will go MIA (as they will when asked to cough up to save the club) oh and the booooorer, well he will still be a pre-pubescent virgin trying to think of another subject he is expert in!
saints fans however will celebrate the win and wont stoop to laughing at the doom mongers (the last bit might be wrong).
COYRS
all of you sofa managers need not worry, the new football manager 2013 game is out in a couple of weeks! and then you can go back to getting saints to the top of the league and winning in europe. i know, if you can do it why cant adkins! its easy this being a manager isnt it. you can then go and get in all the defenders you want! and pick the winning formation and do all the right subs at the right time. just some thoughts for you though, NA cant put real life on easy mode! not all the players you bid for want to come here (in real life), you cant save and then go back and play a game again if you lose! your game never accounts poor refs and cheating players. oh if only it was as easy as it is in the game! NA is managing a real team in the real world! dont try to second guess him just cause you can do better sat infront of your pc. as some of you moaners are so good at saying `i told you so!` i will make a prediction for the spuds game so i can come back and say it myself. i predict that we will win 2-1 and after that many of you wont be on here for a couple of days, however mgra will be here saying how we are doing all the wrong training and GR will be out untill decemburay, saint2701 will blame fox for the goal against regardless of weather he played or not, montecristosaint will say how right he was to have posted about the players we didnt buy and we should have won by more, dell girl will say NA picked the wrong formation, poopey fans will go MIA (as they will when asked to cough up to save the club) oh and the booooorer, well he will still be a pre-pubescent virgin trying to think of another subject he is expert in! saints fans however will celebrate the win and wont stoop to laughing at the doom mongers (the last bit might be wrong). COYRS saintshorse101
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7:05pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
st1halo wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand..
He is saying
Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue
Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish


Hope that helps!

STID
Funny ha ha ha ha stop stop stop " Entertaining" me you are better than jimmy carr
I thangyou!!!

STID
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]No problem, have a dick-tionary to hand.. He is saying Can you afford £2 per month to help save a sad, run down, cheating football (questionable) club. The locals are starting to wear red and white shirts but the inbred children still want to wear jobshite blue Please, just £2 per month could buy us 10 more supporters and we could get water and wash off the smell of fish Hope that helps! STID[/p][/quote]Funny ha ha ha ha stop stop stop " Entertaining" me you are better than jimmy carr[/p][/quote]I thangyou!!! STID st1halo
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7:10pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH
If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?
I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."
Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS
PLAY UP POMPEY
Staines?...I thought you had Stevenage next game! :O)
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: In the january tranfer window 2013 it may to late to repair the damage of the lack of premier signings you need a miracle sorry you have become FRATTON END LAUGH[/p][/quote]If anyone has a skuntese dictionary perhaps they could make sense of this guys postings?[/p][/quote]I think he's saying, "Please can someone tell me where the fullstop botton is on my Dell. It's doin' me skuntish 'ead in."[/p][/quote]Dell laptops as useless as your comments and Team "good night" well your weekend ruined by the Saints team again perhaps not such a good night for you ! STAINS PLAY UP POMPEY[/p][/quote]Staines?...I thought you had Stevenage next game! :O) Baddesley Bill
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7:11pm Sun 21 Oct 12

bluewhiteandred says...

SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand.
I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please
SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand. I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please bluewhiteandred
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7:14pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bluewhiteandred wrote:
Decipher this
your next game Spurs 0 points
then West Brom 0 points
then Swansea 0 points
then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?
That came across quite well what went wrong with others?
After QPR your season will be over !
PLAY UP POMPEY
I thought you said you were going?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Decipher this your next game Spurs 0 points then West Brom 0 points then Swansea 0 points then the most important the season may hang on this result QPR ?[/p][/quote]That came across quite well what went wrong with others?[/p][/quote]After QPR your season will be over ! PLAY UP POMPEY[/p][/quote]I thought you said you were going? OSPREYSAINT
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7:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

st1halo says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand.
I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please
Why dont you go for 40 years then we'll have one more trophy than you


STID
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand. I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please[/p][/quote]Why dont you go for 40 years then we'll have one more trophy than you STID st1halo
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7:18pm Sun 21 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand.
I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please
I have a crystal ball and looking at your teams future, ............... no sorry I can't bring myself to break the bad news.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: SORRY No i have no dick-tionary to hand. I have a guiness book of Football honours & records for the last 30 years SAINTS have no Honours OH sorry theirs a bit of paint spilt on some of the text i can only make out johns ... trop 200 cant make it out ! enlighten me please[/p][/quote]I have a crystal ball and looking at your teams future, ............... no sorry I can't bring myself to break the bad news. OSPREYSAINT
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7:19pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Abbey Saint says...
5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12


Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long

You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it?
Cortese is more intelligent than that”

Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager !
Yes, but he hasn't managed for over 10 years, since being sacked from Watford. I'm sorry, but this is either your idea of a joke, or someone's pulling your leg.
[quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Abbey Saint says... 5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12 Beckyfromsholing wrote: Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions. He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it? Cortese is more intelligent than that” Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager ![/p][/quote]Yes, but he hasn't managed for over 10 years, since being sacked from Watford. I'm sorry, but this is either your idea of a joke, or someone's pulling your leg. Abbey Saint
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7:19pm Sun 21 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Abbey Saint says...
5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12


Beckyfromsholing wrote:
Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions.

He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long

You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it?
Cortese is more intelligent than that”

Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager !
Sacked after falling out with core players. Then at Watford "despite making wholesale and expensive changes to the playing and coaching staff, the Hertfordshire side finished an unimpressive 14th and Vialli was sacked after one year. 38%win record isn't good enough by far

Don't start the Round-about it isn't magic
[quote][p][bold]Beckyfromsholing[/bold] wrote: Abbey Saint says... 5:33pm Sun 21 Oct 12 Beckyfromsholing wrote: Apologies for the spelling mistake in my previous message but the the funny guyswith the crap jokes I'm sure you knew who I meant - Gianluca Vialli -In England he won the FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super Cup. He is one of nine footballers to have won the three main European club competitions and is the only player in European footballing history to have winner's and runner's up medals in all three main European club competitions. He is a very good friend of NC and my understanding is that he's lined up already. He may not of course be the only candidate lined up but when NC strikes we won't be without a manager very long You don't mention the word 'manage' in relation to Vialli. Hardly surprising, is it? Cortese is more intelligent than that” Abbey Saint - He was Manager of Chelsea for about 3 years and until Mourinho came along he was their most succesful Manager ![/p][/quote]Sacked after falling out with core players. Then at Watford "despite making wholesale and expensive changes to the playing and coaching staff, the Hertfordshire side finished an unimpressive 14th and Vialli was sacked after one year. 38%win record isn't good enough by far Don't start the Round-about it isn't magic