Saints will keep on attacking, says Adkins (From Daily Echo)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
You keep going Nigel, I'm loving the football and at the end of the day I pay my hard earned cash to be entertained.

It's not the system that's the problem it's the quality of the back 5 which needs strengthening when the window opens.

MGRA wrote:
Nigel. Thats all very good. But your best players at keeping and holding the ball in the middle 3rd need to be on the pitch for 90 minutes if possible, not 65 or 70 minutes. It does not matter what style of play you adopt, if you can't keep your share of the ball in the last 1/4 of the game in critical areas we will loose games we should win and will be relegated.

Southbourne Mike wrote:
I think continually disparaging remarks against West Ham by Saints supporters shows a little ignorance and lack of knowledge for the game. Fans on here seem to revel in quoting that West Ham are favourites for the drop, nothing more than average, a championship club in the waiting. It was a dire and drab 1st half but Saints were torn to shreds in the 2nd half. If we're average what on earth does than make Southampton?

Saint 2701 wrote:
yawnnnnnn...

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
yawnnnnnn...

Sorry. Are you a Saints striker waiting for some service?

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
yawnnnnnn...

Sorry. Are you a Saints striker waiting for some service?

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Can posters please stop asking for defenders in on loan, the window has shut ffs, and you lot think you can do a better job than Adkins but you dont know that the Transfer window which includes loan signings is closed, it aint open, we cant sign anyone on loan, is that clear?
And look at the bigger picture, ok our
defending, not just the defence is a massive problem at the moment and I'm sure we tried to sign other defenders in the summer, but we have to go with what we've got and defend better as a team,you dont have 4 defenders on the pitch you have 11, in the same way that when we attack its as a team, not the two up front.
Most teams in the prem play 4 3 3, we just need to find the right balance grind out a couple of crappy, scrappy, horrible results and get some confidence back in our team play, as far as I'm concerned we are only 4 points off of where I thought we'd be after the games we've have, keep the faith lads for christ sake!

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

iswhite10 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Can posters please stop asking for defenders in on loan, the window has shut ffs, and you lot think you can do a better job than Adkins but you dont know that the Transfer window which includes loan signings is closed, it aint open, we cant sign anyone on loan, is that clear?
And look at the bigger picture, ok our
defending, not just the defence is a massive problem at the moment and I'm sure we tried to sign other defenders in the summer, but we have to go with what we've got and defend better as a team,you dont have 4 defenders on the pitch you have 11, in the same way that when we attack its as a team, not the two up front.
Most teams in the prem play 4 3 3, we just need to find the right balance grind out a couple of crappy, scrappy, horrible results and get some confidence back in our team play, as far as I'm concerned we are only 4 points off of where I thought we'd be after the games we've have, keep the faith lads for christ sake!

Ok not loan but Boruc was a free agent so the same point stands, why not any kind of defenders of any kind brought in in that category.
And I do not believe that only attacking players were available and willing to come in the summer.
Someone, somewhere within the club did not prioritise the defence for strengthening as virtually all saints fans believed necessary at the end of last season. I don't believe any of us thought our current centre back pairing would be our first choice for the premiership

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

MGRA wrote:
Nigel. Thats all very good. But your best players at keeping and holding the ball in the middle 3rd need to be on the pitch for 90 minutes if possible, not 65 or 70 minutes. It does not matter what style of play you adopt, if you can't keep your share of the ball in the last 1/4 of the game in critical areas we will loose games we should win and will be relegated.

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Can posters please stop asking for defenders in on loan, the window has shut ffs, and you lot think you can do a better job than Adkins but you dont know that the Transfer window which includes loan signings is closed, it aint open, we cant sign anyone on loan, is that clear?
And look at the bigger picture, ok our
defending, not just the defence is a massive problem at the moment and I'm sure we tried to sign other defenders in the summer, but we have to go with what we've got and defend better as a team,you dont have 4 defenders on the pitch you have 11, in the same way that when we attack its as a team, not the two up front.
Most teams in the prem play 4 3 3, we just need to find the right balance grind out a couple of crappy, scrappy, horrible results and get some confidence back in our team play, as far as I'm concerned we are only 4 points off of where I thought we'd be after the games we've have, keep the faith lads for christ sake!

Ok not loan but Boruc was a free agent so the same point stands, why not any kind of defenders of any kind brought in in that category.
And I do not believe that only attacking players were available and willing to come in the summer.
Someone, somewhere within the club did not prioritise the defence for strengthening as virtually all saints fans believed necessary at the end of last season. I don't believe any of us thought our current centre back pairing would be our first choice for the premiership

So any kind of defender know matter what?
So we bring in an England under 21, and a Japanese international, lost Buttner to Man Utd, and how many others that we dont know about?
Someone posted about Wayne Bridge!
If there are freebee's that are any good and better than what we have do you not think that they would have looked at them?
Honestly some of the comments on here are just plain stupid.

St Retford wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

I'd give Nigel at least until the end of this season. He's still yet to be able to play his strongest side. When he does, we'll start winning games.

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

I'd give Nigel at least until the end of this season. He's still yet to be able to play his strongest side. When he does, we'll start winning games.

I really do hope you are right, fingers crossed

seventh-junction wrote:
Just heard from a reliable source who works at St Marys that Rafa Benitez was seen in the building last Friday....
I dont like the sound of that either.

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

mbetts wrote:

seventh-junction wrote:
Just heard from a reliable source who works at St Marys that Rafa Benitez was seen in the building last Friday....
I dont like the sound of that either.

That's an old rumour, bottom line is, true or false, only one man knows, so we'll see........

Point of interest, in this day and age where everyone has a camera seems strange that nobody thought to take a pic?

iswhite10 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Can posters please stop asking for defenders in on loan, the window has shut ffs, and you lot think you can do a better job than Adkins but you dont know that the Transfer window which includes loan signings is closed, it aint open, we cant sign anyone on loan, is that clear?
And look at the bigger picture, ok our
defending, not just the defence is a massive problem at the moment and I'm sure we tried to sign other defenders in the summer, but we have to go with what we've got and defend better as a team,you dont have 4 defenders on the pitch you have 11, in the same way that when we attack its as a team, not the two up front.
Most teams in the prem play 4 3 3, we just need to find the right balance grind out a couple of crappy, scrappy, horrible results and get some confidence back in our team play, as far as I'm concerned we are only 4 points off of where I thought we'd be after the games we've have, keep the faith lads for christ sake!

Ok not loan but Boruc was a free agent so the same point stands, why not any kind of defenders of any kind brought in in that category.
And I do not believe that only attacking players were available and willing to come in the summer.
Someone, somewhere within the club did not prioritise the defence for strengthening as virtually all saints fans believed necessary at the end of last season. I don't believe any of us thought our current centre back pairing would be our first choice for the premiership

So any kind of defender know matter what?
So we bring in an England under 21, and a Japanese international, lost Buttner to Man Utd, and how many others that we dont know about?
Someone posted about Wayne Bridge!
If there are freebee's that are any good and better than what we have do you not think that they would have looked at them?
Honestly some of the comments on here are just plain stupid.

Now look, no need to get personal.
And please, not any kind of defender but better than we have.
What I and others are now fearing is that some very bad judgement at key times of the summer and tactically of late has left us bewildered as to why the club let it get itself into this position.

mbetts wrote:

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
yawnnnnnn...

Sorry. Are you a Saints striker waiting for some service?

No he's a wet spam midfielder with neck ache!

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

MGRA wrote:

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

or if he is not pacing himself correctly, he needs to learn to... but then I am answering my own question, because we give the ball away so much he plays deeper too often... Seedhouse's comments were well made but if thats the case then I just don't see that we have prepared for this league properly....

seventh-junction wrote:
Just heard from a reliable source who works at St Marys that Rafa Benitez was seen in the building last Friday....
I dont like the sound of that either.

aldermoorboy wrote:
If the fans get behind Saints for the full 90 minutes +, we can beat Spurs and be out of the bottom 3.
Good luck Nigel you have done a great job.

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

or if he is not pacing himself correctly, he needs to learn to... but then I am answering my own question, because we give the ball away so much he plays deeper too often... Seedhouse's comments were well made but if thats the case then I just don't see that we have prepared for this league properly....

So Lambert should run less.

Seems to me the choice is 100% effort from Lambert for 75 mins or 85% effort from Lambert for 90 mins (your choice, from the comment above; I'd go for the former).

The NA haters on here want 100% effort from Lambert for 95 minutes. Please tell me how NA can magic that result up!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Nigel. Thats all very good. But your best players at keeping and holding the ball in the middle 3rd need to be on the pitch for 90 minutes if possible, not 65 or 70 minutes. It does not matter what style of play you adopt, if you can't keep your share of the ball in the last 1/4 of the game in critical areas we will loose games we should win and will be relegated.

It's more than obvious that Rickie can't do 90 mins at this level and he holds the ball up superbly well. Did you see him crawl off after the Villa game? When he was subbed against Manure he was dead on his feet, he'd given it his all.

Nigel has been criticised for starting with him and then taking him off. Nigel has also been criticised for not starting with him and bringing him on. If he can't do 95 mins it has to be one or the other.

I was at West Hoof and for me the first 45 was our best defensive display of the season, we were very calm and collected and Andy Carroll was frozen out completely. Some how it all fell apart in the 2nd half. However, the biggest disappointment for me is Jay Rod, he is the one starting in place of Rickie (not Guly) - and he needs to deliver on his 7m price tag. He is Rickies ultimate successor but needs to show us why!

iswhite10 wrote:
Why did Lambert not start the game Nigel?
Why were you so evasive in the post match interview on that subject?
Why are we collecting goalkeepers but not getting any defenders in on loan?
What's the point of reiterating the same mantra about sticking to our attacking, passing principles but seem not to be worried about our nose dive toward relegation?
When do you think the point of no return will come?
Please will someone at Solent or the Echo get us all some answers.
I'm very, very worried about pur current situation.

swesaint wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:
Why did Lambert not start the game Nigel?
Why were you so evasive in the post match interview on that subject?
Why are we collecting goalkeepers but not getting any defenders in on loan?
What's the point of reiterating the same mantra about sticking to our attacking, passing principles but seem not to be worried about our nose dive toward relegation?
When do you think the point of no return will come?
Please will someone at Solent or the Echo get us all some answers.
I'm very, very worried about pur current situation.

I'm very worried we have "fans" like you

aldermoorboy wrote:
If the fans get behind Saints for the full 90 minutes +, we can beat Spurs and be out of the bottom 3.
Good luck Nigel you have done a great job.

Jameski wrote:
Also isn't it about time we scrapped that horrendous yellow and blue kit? Can't we just have an all blue 3rd kit? The yellow and blue is horendous and we seem to perform worst when we wear it

Velleity wrote:

MGRA wrote:

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

or if he is not pacing himself correctly, he needs to learn to... but then I am answering my own question, because we give the ball away so much he plays deeper too often... Seedhouse's comments were well made but if thats the case then I just don't see that we have prepared for this league properly....

So Lambert should run less.

Seems to me the choice is 100% effort from Lambert for 75 mins or 85% effort from Lambert for 90 mins (your choice, from the comment above; I'd go for the former).

The NA haters on here want 100% effort from Lambert for 95 minutes. Please tell me how NA can magic that result up!

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Jameski wrote:
Also isn't it about time we scrapped that horrendous yellow and blue kit? Can't we just have an all blue 3rd kit? The yellow and blue is horendous and we seem to perform worst when we wear it

It's not like its 'Grey' though is it. I mean, you can at least see each other!

seventh-junction wrote:
Just heard from a reliable source who works at St Marys that Rafa Benitez was seen in the building last Friday....
I dont like the sound of that either.

Nicole23 wrote:

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Jameski wrote:
Also isn't it about time we scrapped that horrendous yellow and blue kit? Can't we just have an all blue 3rd kit? The yellow and blue is horendous and we seem to perform worst when we wear it

It's not like its 'Grey' though is it. I mean, you can at least see each other!

I think the home kit is a curse. We should always have the proper red and white stripes. I bet that was Cortese as well.

kent141 wrote:
Youve said it Nigel ,keep up the good work : 0)

St Retford wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

I'd give Nigel at least until the end of this season. He's still yet to be able to play his strongest side. When he does, we'll start winning games.

SFC1976 wrote:
Not a good idea we need to go back to basics play four four two with two central midfielders holding to protect our fragile back 4 and let the wingers bomb on to join the front 2. Lets become hard to beat first At 0-0 you have a point to fight for 4-1 down you have nothing. All good teams are built from the back first and why drop Gazza can't see he had done a lot wrong we need to pick a side and settle with it for a few games we are chopping and changing way to much.
In Nigel we we trust but at times a change of plan is needed playing in the lower leagues with a far better team than any other club is the place to go all out attack I'm affraid the Prem is not. Come on Nigel dont let it end like this you have done to much for our club to go out without a fight lets stand together and we can do this.
COYR

mbetts wrote:

seventh-junction wrote:
Just heard from a reliable source who works at St Marys that Rafa Benitez was seen in the building last Friday....
I dont like the sound of that either.

That's an old rumour, bottom line is, true or false, only one man knows, so we'll see........

Point of interest, in this day and age where everyone has a camera seems strange that nobody thought to take a pic?

billythesaint wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Jameski wrote:
Also isn't it about time we scrapped that horrendous yellow and blue kit? Can't we just have an all blue 3rd kit? The yellow and blue is horendous and we seem to perform worst when we wear it

It's not like its 'Grey' though is it. I mean, you can at least see each other!

I think the home kit is a curse. We should always have the proper red and white stripes. I bet that was Cortese as well.

Yes, it's the kits fault. We should:
1) immediately change our home kit to stripes so that thousands of people are left with a redundant strip they shelled out hard earned cash for and
2) have an all blue away kit to embrace the one colour that we hate.
We need a coach with the balls to electrocute and torture our defenders so they learn not to defend like 5 year olds. There must be some North Korean out there who's currently unemployed? Anyone?

manosussex wrote:

kent141 wrote:
Youve said it Nigel ,keep up the good work : 0)

Good ?

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

Nicole23 wrote:

Southbourne Mike wrote:

Jameski wrote:
Also isn't it about time we scrapped that horrendous yellow and blue kit? Can't we just have an all blue 3rd kit? The yellow and blue is horendous and we seem to perform worst when we wear it

It's not like its 'Grey' though is it. I mean, you can at least see each other!

I think the home kit is a curse. We should always have the proper red and white stripes. I bet that was Cortese as well.

iswhite10 wrote:
Why did Lambert not start the game Nigel?
Why were you so evasive in the post match interview on that subject?
Why are we collecting goalkeepers but not getting any defenders in on loan?
What's the point of reiterating the same mantra about sticking to our attacking, passing principles but seem not to be worried about our nose dive toward relegation?
When do you think the point of no return will come?
Please will someone at Solent or the Echo get us all some answers.
I'm very, very worried about pur current situation.

Ray the Don wrote:
NC out!!

He is destroying our club no respect for the Sainst Fans.

Has to much of a personal EGO!!

He picks our teams and then passes the blame on Nigel so when he does sack Nigel which I think if we loose against Spurs on Sunday will be the final straw he comes out of it blame free.

WE want NC out we want NC out!!!

Ray the Don wrote:
NC out!!

He is destroying our club no respect for the Sainst Fans.

Has to much of a personal EGO!!

He picks our teams and then passes the blame on Nigel so when he does sack Nigel which I think if we loose against Spurs on Sunday will be the final straw he comes out of it blame free.

WE want NC out we want NC out!!!

ghk230473 wrote:

Ray the Don wrote:
NC out!!

He is destroying our club no respect for the Sainst Fans.

Has to much of a personal EGO!!

He picks our teams and then passes the blame on Nigel so when he does sack Nigel which I think if we loose against Spurs on Sunday will be the final straw he comes out of it blame free.

WE want NC out we want NC out!!!

Tin hats on!!!!

thomasupton wrote:
I fear after Sunday he'll be gone, carrying on the way things are going. It's not working, things have to change.

ghk230473 wrote:
The proof is in the pudding. Lambert playing and we get results (normally), villa. He goes off/doesn't play, united, we lose.
If he is not fit why? He's only 30!
Get him fitter, actually get the whole team fitter.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I fear after Sunday he'll be gone, carrying on the way things are going. It's not working, things have to change.

Hello Happiness, welcome home.

Nicole23 wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

Why should we just because you say so?

Nicole23 wrote:

SFC1976 wrote:
Not a good idea we need to go back to basics play four four two with two central midfielders holding to protect our fragile back 4 and let the wingers bomb on to join the front 2. Lets become hard to beat first At 0-0 you have a point to fight for 4-1 down you have nothing. All good teams are built from the back first and why drop Gazza can't see he had done a lot wrong we need to pick a side and settle with it for a few games we are chopping and changing way to much.
In Nigel we we trust but at times a change of plan is needed playing in the lower leagues with a far better team than any other club is the place to go all out attack I'm affraid the Prem is not. Come on Nigel dont let it end like this you have done to much for our club to go out without a fight lets stand together and we can do this.
COYR

How does 4-4-2 protect the back four?
4-3-3 protects them thats what he did on Saturday and it didnt work. We just need a battering ram like Andy Carrol, I suggest Chaplow would fit the bill nicely.

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Ray the Don wrote:
Osprey you must be one of the NUM skull Northam NC knob lickers you dick!!!

Lots of us Saints fans are getting **** off with his antics ie axing the programme sellers no respect for us fans lets see who laughing when we get relagted under this idiots own personal beliefs & yes I am a don so shut up OSPREY.

JohnItaly wrote:
Just heard from my cousin, a Saints season ticket holder for many years, saying the rumour on the street is Di Canio is being line up to relace NA. Hope it is just that - a rumour.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
I fear after Sunday he'll be gone, carrying on the way things are going. It's not working, things have to change.

Hello Happiness, welcome home.

Yesterday he says I don't know how long I have left and today he's all upbeat again. Obviously chairman has given him the thumbs up and said don't worry your here till the end of the season no matter what.

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

martin van tuyl wrote:
Saturday, Spurs are in town. We'll see whether Adkins is true to his word. The likes of Bale can destro our back four.

Should we get another hammering, which I sincerely hope we don't but have a premenition of, he surely is going to have to change tack!

To concede 24 goals in 8 games means we have to score 3 goals per game to get at least a point!

Perhaps a defensive coach might be urgently required as a first step?

Saturday, 5 pm we'll know more.....

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

MGRA wrote:

saintjak wrote:
I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk

He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it...

Rubbish.

He's one of ourkey/best/top players

He plays 90 minutes,full stop

or if he is not pacing himself correctly, he needs to learn to... but then I am answering my own question, because we give the ball away so much he plays deeper too often... Seedhouse's comments were well made but if thats the case then I just don't see that we have prepared for this league properly....

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells.

I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

I put the words in capitals because, depite posting that probably a dozen times, only one person (Seedhouse) ever noticed it. The capitals were in the hope that people might actually see it and take it into account.

The rest of you carry on with your comments such as "sorry, don't see it" (a pretty pointless contribution - I DID see it vs Villa; not because I'm more clever than you, no, just because I happened to be looking in his direction when it happened) and "well, he SHOULD be able to last 90 mins" and "he's only 30, what's up with him".

Thank heavens none of you are football managers, as you seem to think that ignoring the fact that he's knackered after 75 minutes means it's not true. You then jump on NA's back for either not starting him or not finishing with him.

If you choose not to believe me (and many of you clearly do not want to believe it) who do you think has more knowledge about RL's stamina? You watching on TV, or NA with the data from the GPS units the players wear during training? Hmmm. Tough, that one.

Has it occurred to any of you that NA might just have a good reason for rarely playing him a full game this season? Do you really think you know better than NA on this? Really, honestly?

As for NA announcing it, why the hell would he give the opposition clear knowledge about his players? When does he ever really comment on individual players? Pretty rarely (and correctly , in my opinion).

Velleity wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells.

I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

What a plan, just get Rickie fitter. Wonder why NA never thought of that? Him being a physio and all.

You're just bitter because I caught you out in a lie about NC's domestic cleaning arrangements. I note you don't make those libellous claims any more.

"Gaietty"! I see what you did there. Very droll.

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells.

I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

What a plan, just get Rickie fitter. Wonder why NA never thought of that? Him being a physio and all.

You're just bitter because I caught you out in a lie about NC's domestic cleaning arrangements. I note you don't make those libellous claims any more.

"Gaietty"! I see what you did there. Very droll.

You are a dreamer!
When have you caught any one out?
I say schwi-man has Southampton Fc staff round his home to carry out work and you say he doesn't, prove it.
You are the biggest bell end on here.......fact

kitch71 wrote:
Good on you nigel, your way of thinking is really working a treat, so why change.....

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells.

I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

What a plan, just get Rickie fitter. Wonder why NA never thought of that? Him being a physio and all.

You're just bitter because I caught you out in a lie about NC's domestic cleaning arrangements. I note you don't make those libellous claims any more.

"Gaietty"! I see what you did there. Very droll.

You are a dreamer!
When have you caught any one out?
I say schwi-man has Southampton Fc staff round his home to carry out work and you say he doesn't, prove it.
You are the biggest bell end on here.......fact

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

I put the words in capitals because, depite posting that probably a dozen times, only one person (Seedhouse) ever noticed it. The capitals were in the hope that people might actually see it and take it into account.

The rest of you carry on with your comments such as "sorry, don't see it" (a pretty pointless contribution - I DID see it vs Villa; not because I'm more clever than you, no, just because I happened to be looking in his direction when it happened) and "well, he SHOULD be able to last 90 mins" and "he's only 30, what's up with him".

Thank heavens none of you are football managers, as you seem to think that ignoring the fact that he's knackered after 75 minutes means it's not true. You then jump on NA's back for either not starting him or not finishing with him.

If you choose not to believe me (and many of you clearly do not want to believe it) who do you think has more knowledge about RL's stamina? You watching on TV, or NA with the data from the GPS units the players wear during training? Hmmm. Tough, that one.

Has it occurred to any of you that NA might just have a good reason for rarely playing him a full game this season? Do you really think you know better than NA on this? Really, honestly?

As for NA announcing it, why the hell would he give the opposition clear knowledge about his players? When does he ever really comment on individual players? Pretty rarely (and correctly , in my opinion).

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Velleity wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season...

Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too?

So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't?

Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down.

If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?)

Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??)

I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry

P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS

It's only a discussion

Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells.

I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

What a plan, just get Rickie fitter. Wonder why NA never thought of that? Him being a physio and all.

You're just bitter because I caught you out in a lie about NC's domestic cleaning arrangements. I note you don't make those libellous claims any more.

"Gaietty"! I see what you did there. Very droll.

mack chinnon wrote:
Bring back Claus.

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

kent141 wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:
Bring back Claus.

santa ?

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Lets face it Lee can't still be injured all this time. Bruce Lee recovered from a broken back in less time than he's been out.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Lets face it Lee can't still be injured all this time. Bruce Lee recovered from a broken back in less time than he's been out.

Yes, but he is not a footballer, just an actor, although some can be called both I suppose.

mack chinnon wrote:
Bring back Claus.

thomasupton wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Lets face it Lee can't still be injured all this time. Bruce Lee recovered from a broken back in less time than he's been out.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Don't bother with gaietty, he's trying to groom us

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

Yes bleeding under the skin, a bruise

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Don't bother with gaietty, he's trying to groom us

... are you really worth grooming?

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Don't bother with gaietty, he's trying to groom us

... are you really worth grooming?

Apparently so!

El Santo wrote:

St Retford wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

I'd give Nigel at least until the end of this season. He's still yet to be able to play his strongest side. When he does, we'll start winning games.

Look, 17 months ago or so, we were playing League One. Let's remember that for a second.
We are ahead of schedule, we have time to go back to the Championship and bounce back again, and we will still be in the 5 year NC plan. The big danger here is to start buying crap and expensive players that will escape like rats as soon as we are relegated, leaving us with a huge debt and heading down to League One again, like it happen before and also to our admired and beloved neighbours.
To me, the important thing right now is to build a team that will sit comfortably in the PL for the next decade. Let's give NA a chance, he has proven he is able.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Is there a Doctor in the house, that can explain in simple terms why Rambo needs time to heel, Doubting Thomas believes in Jesus style miracles!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

"Lambert has to play 90 minutes"

Pitiful. So even if the bloke slowed down enough to be a liability, we should keep him on?

"Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg". What's your suggested solution? Bring him back before he can run properly? Tell him to man up and **** the consequences for his (and possibly the club's) future?

That whole comment is totally laughable. I know you;re frustrated (as am I) but not facing up to reality is not a solution.

Boy, am I glad you're not in charge.

Don't bother with gaietty, he's trying to groom us

... are you really worth grooming?

Apparently so!

Go with the flow, it might be beneficial, but be careful there are some nasty guys out there, JS for example.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

ghk230473 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

It will take more than 1 visit on the comfy couch;D

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Ray the Don wrote:
NC out!!

He is destroying our club no respect for the Sainst Fans.

Has to much of a personal EGO!!

He picks our teams and then passes the blame on Nigel so when he does sack Nigel which I think if we loose against Spurs on Sunday will be the final straw he comes out of it blame free.

WE want NC out we want NC out!!!

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

Ignore me " new phone i cant work and in pub, recipe for disaster.

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

Ignore me " new phone i cant work and in pub, recipe for disaster.

PTID1898 wrote:
You won't stop attacking and you won't stop leaking goals, lets keep Nigel in say lets keep Nigel in Play up pompey

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

Ignore me " new phone i cant work and in pub, recipe for disaster.

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

Anyone who's injured, just take the time to heal from the qualified and experienced Saints staff in conjunction with the people where GR was hospitalised and with their own medical team. Give that time to Thomasupandatem and he'll give you the recuperation time demanded by an untrained, unknowledgeable supporter instead.

You lot are beyond parody.

mike saint wrote:
Bring back.

GLEN HODDLE!!!!!

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

Anyone who's injured, just take the time to heal from the qualified and experienced Saints staff in conjunction with the people where GR was hospitalised and with their own medical team. Give that time to Thomasupandatem and he'll give you the recuperation time demanded by an untrained, unknowledgeable supporter instead.

You lot are beyond parody.

And I thought she had fcuk'd off

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, If there's one place to find the perfect driver,It's in the back seat !

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Is there a Doctor in the house, that can explain in simple terms why Rambo needs time to heel, Doubting Thomas believes in Jesus style miracles!

Well it doesn't take 8 weeks for a bruise I know that much.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

Anyone who's injured, just take the time to heal from the qualified and experienced Saints staff in conjunction with the people where GR was hospitalised and with their own medical team. Give that time to Thomasupandatem and he'll give you the recuperation time demanded by an untrained, unknowledgeable supporter instead.

You lot are beyond parody.

And I thought she had fcuk'd off

thought? that's novel.

ghk230473 wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

kent141 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

Are you a total numpty ?

Thought you were on my side Kent?

Ignore me " new phone i cant work and in pub, recipe for disaster.

I hope the 'BELL END comment was meant, laughed so much I had tears!

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

saintmac wrote:
The injury to Gaston was serious -you
are not kept in hospital for 2 days for nothing.
I have admired the way NA has got us
to the promised land but to continue
with the current style of play is suicide
and the surest way of going down.
NA has to resort to a more defensive
style to stand even a chance of staying up. Continue to play attacking football against Spurs will only bring
us more grief.It only got us one goal
against West Ham who we all agree
were only an average team.
I will be sorry if NA does go after all
he has done but he does appear to be out of his depth with his tactics and
team changes.As other posters have pointed out Prem teams are built on
solid defences and we did not for
whatever reason address this problem in the summer.IMHO Saints need a manager who will adapt our style of play to try and cope with our defensive frailties until the Jan window and hope it is not too late by then to salvage our season.

MGRA wrote:
a haematoma is NOT a bruise. A bruise is an ecchymosis. They are completely different.

MGRA wrote:
a haematoma is NOT a bruise. A bruise is an ecchymosis. They are completely different.

kent141 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

saintjak wrote:

Velleity wrote:

saintjak wrote: I just cannot go with this 'Lambert cannot last 95 mins' talk He played practically every game last year and all of a sudden he's not up to it... Rubbish. He's one of ourkey/best/top players He plays 90 minutes,full stop

You clearly weren't at the Villa game or you missed this. I've posted this about twenty times: he was literally on his hands and knees struggling to stand (not after a knock) in the penalty box in the 88th minute or so. He perked up when he penalty came, but he was ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES WITH EXHAUSTION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? CAN YOU DEAL WITH IT AS BEING AT LEAST POSSIBLY FACTUALLY TRUE? I might be lying, but why would I? Lots of people appear to have the view "I didn't see it so it can't be true." He may be facing slightly better player and having to run a tiny bit harder than last year. Have you considered that? "He plays 90 minutes full stop" will just result in a ten man team for the last ten to fifteen minutes.

Was at the Villa game. And most last season... Don't see it. Sorry. Who else does this apply too? So everyone else can play 90 mins but he can't? Was this the same Lambert that was kicking and throwing stuff when sub'd at the Fulham game after he sat down. If that is the case then why doesnt the manager announce this (or have i missed it?) Some of the decision making has been well off... (lalllana and Punch to tired to finish UTD??) I'm an Adkins supporter but I don't see it. Sorry P.S. ARE YOU SEVEN YEARS OLD PUTTING THINGS IN CAPITALS It's only a discussion Cheers

You'll have to get used to gaietty, he's not 7, just has 7 brain cells. I say play lambert and get him fit, it's what he's paid to do!

What a plan, just get Rickie fitter. Wonder why NA never thought of that? Him being a physio and all. You're just bitter because I caught you out in a lie about NC's domestic cleaning arrangements. I note you don't make those libellous claims any more. "Gaietty"! I see what you did there. Very droll.

You are a dreamer! When have you caught any one out? I say schwi-man has Southampton Fc staff round his home to carry out work and you say he doesn't, prove it. You are the biggest bell end on here.......fact

FACT !!

kent141 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
a haematoma is NOT a bruise. A bruise is an ecchymosis. They are completely different.

Rubbish , you talk nonsence , if you scrambed eggs in a wok are you a chinaman ?

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

kent141 wrote:

MGRA wrote:
a haematoma is NOT a bruise. A bruise is an ecchymosis. They are completely different.

Rubbish , you talk nonsence , if you scrambed eggs in a wok are you a chinaman ?

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

bazza wrote:
Mr Upton are you upsetting all the experts on here tonight.lol

kent141 wrote:

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

That was meant for Bill but i pushed the wrong buttons, i may have a indian tonight rather than a chinese

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

That was meant for Bill but i pushed the wrong buttons, i may have a indian tonight rather than a chinese

You are talking food I hope?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote: Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up. Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else? As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

IF it comes to relegation, I will still be cheering my team on, stupid? Maybe, I would rather it was called loyalty. If I were to moan and groan, criticise and slag my side off from now 'till the cows come home, it wouldn't make a jots worth of difference, so I won't do that. No one will stop you if you want to be negative, but why bother, it's a waste of time, and will only acquire the wrath of us happy clapping sheep who would rather be positive, however bad it gets. Are we fanatics? I hope so. Will you be on here if, by a miracle we beat Spurs?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

bazza wrote:
Mr Upton are you upsetting all the experts on here tonight.lol

I think he has a thirst for knowledge, he is right to ask, as it is very hard to get any facts about the matter.

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote: Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up. Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else? As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do. *look it up - you might find out what one is.

MGRA wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

no that one does mean something, he is likening you to the end of a pen1s.... :0)

City Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote: Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up. Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else? As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

IF it comes to relegation, I will still be cheering my team on, stupid? Maybe, I would rather it was called loyalty. If I were to moan and groan, criticise and slag my side off from now 'till the cows come home, it wouldn't make a jots worth of difference, so I won't do that. No one will stop you if you want to be negative, but why bother, it's a waste of time, and will only acquire the wrath of us happy clapping sheep who would rather be positive, however bad it gets. Are we fanatics? I hope so. Will you be on here if, by a miracle we beat Spurs?

Sure will. Talking about what went right and how we can maintain that going forward.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

Can't we come and watch? That there is fighting talk, we don't want none of that nonsense on here, but if you must I reccomend feather dusters at fifty paces.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

Can't we come and watch? That there is fighting talk, we don't want none of that nonsense on here, but if you must I reccomend feather dusters at fifty paces.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

Can't we come and watch? That there is fighting talk, we don't want none of that nonsense on here, but if you must I reccomend feather dusters at fifty paces.

Apologies I forgot to check my spelling, recommend is what I meant.

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

kent141 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

That was meant for Bill but i pushed the wrong buttons, i may have a indian tonight rather than a chinese

You are talking food I hope?

Ghee is a good cooking agent and helps you sleep as well as clogging your arteries and killing you but i dont think that putting the clocks back at the weekend will help with the financal predicament and austerity measures so ive put £20 quid on linfield to win at coleraine tonight and they are 2-0 down

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

Oh dear...I was just suggesting a beer and a discussion (with £50 to a charity close to your heart?)..I don't do violence Thomas...I grew out off that mullarky years ago.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
At the end of the day Adkins has to change things, it's not working. Lambert has to play 90 minutes, Ramirez can't be out for this long with a dead leg. Stop wrapping these players up in cotton wool. Where is Tadanari Lee????

Most of your post is the usual repetitive rubbish, but the intelligent bit, the question about Lee, well the last we heard from NA, was that he hopes to give him a run out against Leeds, that's looking postive but it may take a while for him to get up to speed, he has been out for an awful long time.

Honestly a dead leg. Christ we used to give them at school for fun. No more than 2 weeks at most.

The term used "dead leg" was just for simpletons, the injury was a lot more serious than that, haematoma was mentioned, which if you Google it sounds quite nasty.

I think football should lose the term "dead leg".
It might help Thomas to stop sounding off like a complete dope on here! :O)

Hope I do bump into you soon, then we'll sort out your problem!!!!!!!

You've had plenty of invitations.

Just you and me mate not you and 20 of your mates

Oh dear...I was just suggesting a beer and a discussion (with £50 to a charity close to your heart?)..I don't do violence Thomas...I grew out off that mullarky years ago.

He was Batterly Bill in them days.

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

City Saint wrote:
Whisper it quietly: cortese is working on a dougie freedman / wilifred zaha palace double swoop for the january window.

Hoping so, anyways.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

City Saint wrote:
Whisper it quietly: cortese is working on a dougie freedman / wilifred zaha palace double swoop for the january window.

Hoping so, anyways.

Freedman is said to be going to Bolton

Optimist wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

dude, harsh but true 0:)

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

That was meant for Bill but i pushed the wrong buttons, i may have a indian tonight rather than a chinese

You are talking food I hope?

Ghee is a good cooking agent and helps you sleep as well as clogging your arteries and killing you but i dont think that putting the clocks back at the weekend will help with the financal predicament and austerity measures so ive put £20 quid on linfield to win at coleraine tonight and they are 2-0 down

They got one back, still hope.

El Santo wrote:

St Retford wrote:

iswhite10 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
I think anyone calling for Nigel to go now loses the right to celebrate when we survive (which, I firmly believe, we'll do with games to spare).

Instead, you should all be forced to stand in front of a blackboard and write "I must learn to man up" until the message sinks in.

Well I admire the sentiment but how many more "worst ever..." records will you put up with before we move on?
If we leave it too late we'll be too far adrift for anyone to save us.
So I ask again, when is too late?

I'd give Nigel at least until the end of this season. He's still yet to be able to play his strongest side. When he does, we'll start winning games.

Look, 17 months ago or so, we were playing League One. Let's remember that for a second.
We are ahead of schedule, we have time to go back to the Championship and bounce back again, and we will still be in the 5 year NC plan. The big danger here is to start buying crap and expensive players that will escape like rats as soon as we are relegated, leaving us with a huge debt and heading down to League One again, like it happen before and also to our admired and beloved neighbours.
To me, the important thing right now is to build a team that will sit comfortably in the PL for the next decade. Let's give NA a chance, he has proven he is able.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

kent141 wrote:

kent141 wrote:
You still look very foolish indeed im sorry to say.

That was meant for Bill but i pushed the wrong buttons, i may have a indian tonight rather than a chinese

You are talking food I hope?

Ghee is a good cooking agent and helps you sleep as well as clogging your arteries and killing you but i dont think that putting the clocks back at the weekend will help with the financal predicament and austerity measures so ive put £20 quid on linfield to win at coleraine tonight and they are 2-0 down

They got one back, still hope.

2 2 with 2 minutes to go

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

ghk230473 wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs............. You'll be taller than the rest!

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

Costa Baz wrote:
Ok, if we stick to the same style of playing, can I suggest a more defensive minded player in front of the centre backs?

Morgan Schneiderlin has had a reasonably good start to the season, but, IMO, he's better suited in a more advance role, where his athleticism would help him close down attacks earlier. He also has the passing ability to slip the ball through for forwards to run on to.

If NA is to persist with Fonte and Hoover as the CB 's, then why not put Yoshida in the defensive midfield role?

From what I have seen, of him, he is very comfortable on the ball, receives it well when under pressure, doesn't panic and can pass well.
Watching Saturday's game, he pushed forward in support, when he could (albeit from left back) and found plenty of space to receive the ball.
As he started his career as a midfielder, this isn't just a speculative, knee jerk reaction.
That he has converted successfully to play as a CB, I would hope he would be better able to spot gaps in the midfield than our current midfielders, and help plug the gaps.

Head down and waiting for incoming.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Tirau Dan wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

Top notch Opti!! a real cracker.. Ray the Turk would Love it

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
GHK Quote: "And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games". Sorry I forgot to respond to your other good point, a tricky question, I think in fact that NA has been fiddling too much with the so called attacking style? He needs to get back to basics, play his best but balanced XI and that includes Lambo, on Saturday my first impression of the starting XI was that he was just pushing the eleven fittest players rather than selecting a balanced side. He is a bit restricted with so many injuries, but I cannot fathom those tactics at all, but he is the gaffer and it is his call, he lives by the sword no doubt he will die by it if things don't take a turn for the better, pdq. It's time that lady luck gave us a break, we haven't had much good fortune yet this season. we all feel the same as you but chose to be patient and optimistic, criticsm may help you vent your spleen and feel better, but it won't have any effect on the outcome will it?

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
GHK Quote: "And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games". Sorry I forgot to respond to your other good point, a tricky question, I think in fact that NA has been fiddling too much with the so called attacking style? He needs to get back to basics, play his best but balanced XI and that includes Lambo, on Saturday my first impression of the starting XI was that he was just pushing the eleven fittest players rather than selecting a balanced side. He is a bit restricted with so many injuries, but I cannot fathom those tactics at all, but he is the gaffer and it is his call, he lives by the sword no doubt he will die by it if things don't take a turn for the better, pdq. It's time that lady luck gave us a break, we haven't had much good fortune yet this season. we all feel the same as you but chose to be patient and optimistic, criticsm may help you vent your spleen and feel better, but it won't have any effect on the outcome will it?

Not bad.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Puncheon was put out to the market...no one wanted to buy him. He was dead n buried...but has come back to prove himself a team player (so far)...I don't see any weakness from any party involved in the whole matter tbh. I only see the strength it takes to give a guy a second chance.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

I couldn't be a politician, I don't tell lies. Do you think that Fergie when he was inexperienced and green didn't take advice while he was learning the ropes? I wish you would stop the disrespect for our Chairman, it is not clever and no one else is having anything to do with it, it just makes you out to be foolish, if you were a Chairman and a player abused you on line, could you ever be man enough to forgive the player when he apologised, somehow with your beligerent attitude I am sure it would never have got that far, you would have blown a fuse and kicked the culprit out. NC is a bigger and better person than you will ever be, so accept that and show some due respect.

NC Fan4Life wrote:
NO Nigel NO, you are clearly not learning yet. The majority of messages on hear are giving good positive advice, please read them. First you have to earn the right to play the way you want (and we like to see), but to do that we have to learn how to defend. Which means playing 'ugly' by being defensive and getting some boring 0-0 draws, starting with Spurs otherwise we will loose again.
In this league attack is NOT the best form of defence. All the top managers over the years will tell you to build from the back, not the front.
You start the game with a point and one point per game is nearly all you need to stay up. Therefore set up not to loose and get some points, then when the defence is sorted you can start to be more offensive.
Neither NC, the players, you, or your coaches, have any premiership experience. Therefore the best thing you can do if you want to stay manager is to recognise that and bring in a top experienced coach/assistant manager to help you. That would show strength not weakness so speak to NC about it tomorrow as we don't have much time left for you all to learn.
Otherwise NC will have to take action so it is better coming from you.
We supporters are behind you but you are loosing more each week with your tactical, formation and substitutional errors.
Come on Nigel get help quick and learn before you loose the respect and confidence of the players and the rest of us.

NC Fan4Life wrote:
NO Nigel NO, you are clearly not learning yet. The majority of messages on hear are giving good positive advice, please read them. First you have to earn the right to play the way you want (and we like to see), but to do that we have to learn how to defend. Which means playing 'ugly' by being defensive and getting some boring 0-0 draws, starting with Spurs otherwise we will loose again.
In this league attack is NOT the best form of defence. All the top managers over the years will tell you to build from the back, not the front.
You start the game with a point and one point per game is nearly all you need to stay up. Therefore set up not to loose and get some points, then when the defence is sorted you can start to be more offensive.
Neither NC, the players, you, or your coaches, have any premiership experience. Therefore the best thing you can do if you want to stay manager is to recognise that and bring in a top experienced coach/assistant manager to help you. That would show strength not weakness so speak to NC about it tomorrow as we don't have much time left for you all to learn.
Otherwise NC will have to take action so it is better coming from you.
We supporters are behind you but you are loosing more each week with your tactical, formation and substitutional errors.
Come on Nigel get help quick and learn before you loose the respect and confidence of the players and the rest of us.

NC Fan4Life wrote:
NO Nigel NO, you are clearly not learning yet. The majority of messages on hear are giving good positive advice, please read them. First you have to earn the right to play the way you want (and we like to see), but to do that we have to learn how to defend. Which means playing 'ugly' by being defensive and getting some boring 0-0 draws, starting with Spurs otherwise we will loose again.
In this league attack is NOT the best form of defence. All the top managers over the years will tell you to build from the back, not the front.
You start the game with a point and one point per game is nearly all you need to stay up. Therefore set up not to loose and get some points, then when the defence is sorted you can start to be more offensive.
Neither NC, the players, you, or your coaches, have any premiership experience. Therefore the best thing you can do if you want to stay manager is to recognise that and bring in a top experienced coach/assistant manager to help you. That would show strength not weakness so speak to NC about it tomorrow as we don't have much time left for you all to learn.
Otherwise NC will have to take action so it is better coming from you.
We supporters are behind you but you are loosing more each week with your tactical, formation and substitutional errors.
Come on Nigel get help quick and learn before you loose the respect and confidence of the players and the rest of us.

angus mc coatup wrote:
well, If there's one place to find the perfect driver,It's in the back seat !

ghk230473 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs............. You'll be taller than the rest!

Of course unless you are schwi-man without the cubans!!!!

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Puncheon was put out to the market...no one wanted to buy him. He was dead n buried...but has come back to prove himself a team player (so far)...I don't see any weakness from any party involved in the whole matter tbh. I only see the strength it takes to give a guy a second chance.

Correct he was put on the Market and as I recall there was interest but yet again schwi-man messed him about. Granted it worked out however my point is why didn't Adkins get involved and say 'we want you let's work it out.

Ferguson has had problems with players, those he wanted to keep he kept, Rooney, rio, keane. When they are no longer in his plans it's ta ta.

There's a learning curve here not just for Adkins but schwi too.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs............. You'll be taller than the rest!

Of course unless you are schwi-man without the cubans!!!!

It always shows a lack of class when you reply to your own comment imo.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs............. You'll be taller than the rest!

Of course unless you are schwi-man without the cubans!!!!

It always shows a lack of class when you reply to your own comment imo.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

I couldn't be a politician, I don't tell lies. Do you think that Fergie when he was inexperienced and green didn't take advice while he was learning the ropes? I wish you would stop the disrespect for our Chairman, it is not clever and no one else is having anything to do with it, it just makes you out to be foolish, if you were a Chairman and a player abused you on line, could you ever be man enough to forgive the player when he apologised, somehow with your beligerent attitude I am sure it would never have got that far, you would have blown a fuse and kicked the culprit out. NC is a bigger and better person than you will ever be, so accept that and show some due respect.

I pay a cleaner, I don't interfere with how she cleans or what products she uses. It's clean no problem, if it wasn't I'd get some one else in. So simple it's stupid.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Puncheon was put out to the market...no one wanted to buy him. He was dead n buried...but has come back to prove himself a team player (so far)...I don't see any weakness from any party involved in the whole matter tbh. I only see the strength it takes to give a guy a second chance.

Correct he was put on the Market and as I recall there was interest but yet again schwi-man messed him about. Granted it worked out however my point is why didn't Adkins get involved and say 'we want you let's work it out.

Ferguson has had problems with players, those he wanted to keep he kept, Rooney, rio, keane. When they are no longer in his plans it's ta ta.

There's a learning curve here not just for Adkins but schwi too.

How do you know tha NA wasn't the peacemaker? Your reference to Ferguson and his players, he is also someone that can man up to players that are giving him grief, he also has forgiven those that have sinned against him, he is currently having a battle with Rio Ferdinand, who will come out as the winner in that? Probably an amicable settlement after the sort it out. A compromise that will benefit both parties, ring a bell with you? You are letting your hatred for NC cloud your judgement, I don't understand it but it's your call.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

I couldn't be a politician, I don't tell lies. Do you think that Fergie when he was inexperienced and green didn't take advice while he was learning the ropes? I wish you would stop the disrespect for our Chairman, it is not clever and no one else is having anything to do with it, it just makes you out to be foolish, if you were a Chairman and a player abused you on line, could you ever be man enough to forgive the player when he apologised, somehow with your beligerent attitude I am sure it would never have got that far, you would have blown a fuse and kicked the culprit out. NC is a bigger and better person than you will ever be, so accept that and show some due respect.

I pay a cleaner, I don't interfere with how she cleans or what products she uses. It's clean no problem, if it wasn't I'd get some one else in. So simple it's stupid.

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Optimist wrote:
lots of posts here again with lots of strong feelings, I am clumsy but...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

If you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs............. You'll be taller than the rest!

Of course unless you are schwi-man without the cubans!!!!

It always shows a lack of class when you reply to your own comment imo.

Oh my word swipe me.
Heard enough of your opinions to realise they don't add up to much.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Puncheon was put out to the market...no one wanted to buy him. He was dead n buried...but has come back to prove himself a team player (so far)...I don't see any weakness from any party involved in the whole matter tbh. I only see the strength it takes to give a guy a second chance.

Correct he was put on the Market and as I recall there was interest but yet again schwi-man messed him about. Granted it worked out however my point is why didn't Adkins get involved and say 'we want you let's work it out.

Ferguson has had problems with players, those he wanted to keep he kept, Rooney, rio, keane. When they are no longer in his plans it's ta ta.

There's a learning curve here not just for Adkins but schwi too.

How do you know tha NA wasn't the peacemaker? Your reference to Ferguson and his players, he is also someone that can man up to players that are giving him grief, he also has forgiven those that have sinned against him, he is currently having a battle with Rio Ferdinand, who will come out as the winner in that? Probably an amicable settlement after the sort it out. A compromise that will benefit both parties, ring a bell with you? You are letting your hatred for NC cloud your judgement, I don't understand it but it's your call.

If ferguson wants to keep rio he will and it will all be done without a sight or sound from his chairman. My point is ferguson does it his way like most managers.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Is there a Doctor in the house, that can explain in simple terms why Rambo needs time to heel, Doubting Thomas believes in Jesus style miracles!

Well it doesn't take 8 weeks for a bruise I know that much.

Got the data from Wiki I suppose. Your not another one with a GCSE in minor injuries are you?

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

City Saint wrote:

saintray wrote:
Why dont you all shut up and let NA get on with the job,i know you all got saints intrest at heart but whatever we think of his tactics he stands or falls by them so while were still in with a chance lets all get behind the team every match and be that twelveth man that they need,c.o y.s.

I think you're looking for the "no messages" bulletin non-board for those who like their fellow fans to keep shut up.

Why don't you toddle on back there, or debate the issue at hand with everyone else?

As for the happy clappy 12th man stuffgood luck with that. I suppose you'll cheer us on all the way to relegation.

I'm proud to say that, if necessary, I will indeed cheer us all the way to relegation. I wouldn't like relegation, but I would certainly cheer all the way. That's what supporters* do.










*look it up - you might find out what one is.

BELL END

Is there any danger that you could return to asking sensible questions and desist from the personal insults, they mean nothing.

Ah you admit my questions are sensible! Gotcha.

I would like to know your opinion on the whole puncheon affair, and explain how schwi is not interfering?

And do you think it's right Adkins doesn't change attacking style? Doesn't appear to be learning much from the past games.

The Puncheon story is quite complex but after apologies and handshakes all around it is now history. Not many players who abuse their Chairman have ever survived to tell the tale, both manned up and got it sorted, you have to respect them both for that. A good example that others could do well to emulate.

You should be a politician!
Ok would you here of alex ferguson being told if, when, or whom he could select in squad/team?
No
From puncheons selection in squad and starting line up thus far it proves he was good enough. Why was schwi-man any thing to do with it? If adkins didn't fancy him he would tell schwi to accept offers for him and that should be his only involvement.

Puncheon was put out to the market...no one wanted to buy him. He was dead n buried...but has come back to prove himself a team player (so far)...I don't see any weakness from any party involved in the whole matter tbh. I only see the strength it takes to give a guy a second chance.

Correct he was put on the Market and as I recall there was interest but yet again schwi-man messed him about. Granted it worked out however my point is why didn't Adkins get involved and say 'we want you let's work it out.

Ferguson has had problems with players, those he wanted to keep he kept, Rooney, rio, keane. When they are no longer in his plans it's ta ta.

There's a learning curve here not just for Adkins but schwi too.

How do you know tha NA wasn't the peacemaker? Your reference to Ferguson and his players, he is also someone that can man up to players that are giving him grief, he also has forgiven those that have sinned against him, he is currently having a battle with Rio Ferdinand, who will come out as the winner in that? Probably an amicable settlement after the sort it out. A compromise that will benefit both parties, ring a bell with you? You are letting your hatred for NC cloud your judgement, I don't understand it but it's your call.

If ferguson wants to keep rio he will and it will all be done without a sight or sound from his chairman. My point is ferguson does it his way like most managers.

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

Jameski wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Is there a Doctor in the house, that can explain in simple terms why Rambo needs time to heel, Doubting Thomas believes in Jesus style miracles!

Well it doesn't take 8 weeks for a bruise I know that much.

Got the data from Wiki I suppose. Your not another one with a GCSE in minor injuries are you?

just to clear it up, the bruise took up half of his thigh, 4 weeks for it to go down and then at least 2 weeks to get match fit after 4 weeks without kicking a ball. Just so you know when you get a "dead leg" and your leg is solid muscle, the damage is a lot worse than if you are a kid at school with soft/flabby legs getting hit by another kid. ok?

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

You are a perfect Engineer I guess, the sort that if you are getting something wrong and and underling had the temerity to point out what was going wrong you would tell him to do one, and continue to get it wrong, I've met your sort all the time throughout my career, and had to clear the mess up afterwards.

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Jameski wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Is there a Doctor in the house, that can explain in simple terms why Rambo needs time to heel, Doubting Thomas believes in Jesus style miracles!

Well it doesn't take 8 weeks for a bruise I know that much.

Got the data from Wiki I suppose. Your not another one with a GCSE in minor injuries are you?

just to clear it up, the bruise took up half of his thigh, 4 weeks for it to go down and then at least 2 weeks to get match fit after 4 weeks without kicking a ball. Just so you know when you get a "dead leg" and your leg is solid muscle, the damage is a lot worse than if you are a kid at school with soft/flabby legs getting hit by another kid. ok?

Thanks for that, it makes good sense.

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

You are a perfect Engineer I guess, the sort that if you are getting something wrong and and underling had the temerity to point out what was going wrong you would tell him to do one, and continue to get it wrong, I've met your sort all the time throughout my career, and had to clear the mess up afterwards.

No such thing as perfect but qualified, qualified for a reason that is why an unqualified person cannot carry out tasks that I do. If they cannot carry out task why would I listen to them.
Is the penny dropping or am I dealing with a retard?

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

By that asumption, I assume you think NC is choosing the team...I take issue with that...I simply don't beleive it.
Presumably you (as an Engineer) ultimately have an MD to report to. I also assume he decides the direction the company that employs you takes?

angus mc coatup wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

regards to the last part of your post ,thats exactly what our doing to adkins is it not.

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

By that asumption, I assume you think NC is choosing the team...I take issue with that...I simply don't beleive it.
Presumably you (as an Engineer) ultimately have an MD to report to. I also assume he decides the direction the company that employs you takes?

The md negotiates work, makes purchases, invoices etc. Does not carry out my job which he is not qualified thus not insured to do.
And yes I think schwi has an unhealthy involvement with team and selections. He doesn't need to even know who the players are, obviously it helps but Adkins is the manager, meaning he manages the players. Where does the buck stop?........ With the manager

ghk230473 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

By that asumption, I assume you think NC is choosing the team...I take issue with that...I simply don't beleive it.
Presumably you (as an Engineer) ultimately have an MD to report to. I also assume he decides the direction the company that employs you takes?

The md negotiates work, makes purchases, invoices etc. Does not carry out my job which he is not qualified thus not insured to do.
And yes I think schwi has an unhealthy involvement with team and selections. He doesn't need to even know who the players are, obviously it helps but Adkins is the manager, meaning he manages the players. Where does the buck stop?........ With the manager

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

You are a perfect Engineer I guess, the sort that if you are getting something wrong and and underling had the temerity to point out what was going wrong you would tell him to do one, and continue to get it wrong, I've met your sort all the time throughout my career, and had to clear the mess up afterwards.

No such thing as perfect but qualified, qualified for a reason that is why an unqualified person cannot carry out tasks that I do. If they cannot carry out task why would I listen to them.
Is the penny dropping or am I dealing with a retard?

You wouldn't listen to them as you come across as an arrogant bully, even an unqualified person (like me) can tell when you are making a complete pratt of yourself, and you are doing that on here.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
If you employ some one, let them get on with what they are employed to do. How can you pair not get that? Why get a dog and bark yourself? I am an engineer, if some one came up to me whilst I was working who was not qualified and gave out orders/advice on the task in hand, I'd tell them to do 1, not listen to them!

You are a perfect Engineer I guess, the sort that if you are getting something wrong and and underling had the temerity to point out what was going wrong you would tell him to do one, and continue to get it wrong, I've met your sort all the time throughout my career, and had to clear the mess up afterwards.

No such thing as perfect but qualified, qualified for a reason that is why an unqualified person cannot carry out tasks that I do. If they cannot carry out task why would I listen to them.
Is the penny dropping or am I dealing with a retard?

You wouldn't listen to them as you come across as an arrogant bully, even an unqualified person (like me) can tell when you are making a complete pratt of yourself, and you are doing that on here.