Off the buses - why Saints had no open-top bus tour around Southampton

What Saints' open bus tour could have looked like

What Saints' open bus tour could have looked like

First published in Adam Leitch Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Writer

Their sensational return to the Premier League has made them the toast of Southampton – yet Saints have not responded to the council’s suggestion of a celebratory open-top bus tour.
Adam Leitch asks why.

THE etiquette of football-related open-top bus tours is more subjective than prescriptive.

For some clubs, any reason seems enough to take the tin opener to the traditional double-decker and have their stars jump up and down and spray champagne over each other while their adoring public wave up in adulation.

For other clubs it seems like a piece of nonsense they can well do without.

Saints appear to be favouring the latter approach after the news that they have not responded to the city council’s suggestions that the Premier League promotion-winning team tour the city.

So are Saints being killjoys or merely showing commendable decorum?

The answer is that they are doing what they think is right, and that seems to supersede any sort of unwritten rules where open-top bus celebrations are concerned. Saints have only had one – that was after the 1976 FA Cup final and included a reception in the Civic Centre.

There was no tour after they last secured promotion to the top flight in 1978.

The club also refused to bow to the clamour to tour the city in 2003 after getting to the FA Cup final. They seem set to do the same again.

There is one common difference between those three occasions and 1976, though – Saints achieved, but were not winners. The FA Cup was something tangible, a trophy to show off. In 1978, as this season, Saints have achieved and, in a way, they have won something, in the shape of promotion. But the crucial difference is they did not win the title.

In 2003 it was a magnificent run to get to the final, but they lost to Arsenal. I remember a conversation with 2003 manager Gordon Strachan when he was asked about the potential for an open-top bus tour after the outpouring of emotion and pride from that marvellous day at the Millennium Stadium.

He gave the idea the credit he thought it deserved – in this case not much.

In typically blunt fashion he pointed out that “an open-top bus tour is for winners, not for losers”.

It mattered not to him that the people of Southampton did, in fact, view him and his team as winners, in the same way that the city are proud and delighted at the presentday Saints for their promotion. It was black and white, all about winning.

Nigel Adkins has already admitted he is gutted Saints didn’t win the title this season, just as he was last year. In the world of sport second place is a consolation, even if the prize it generates is fantastic.

There are examples of clubs who have used second place as a reason to wave to their adoring masses from upon high – Norwich did it last year, Stoke did it on their elevation to the top table of English football.

But there is actually more of a trend for play-off winning sides to do it than the actual runners-up.

If you win a major trophy you do a parade – well, apart from Swindon, who won League Two this season but won’t do a parade either – and getting through the play-offs and winning the final at Wembley feels like exactly that.

It may seem strange that the team that finishes first could be parading, as well as the team that potentially has finished sixth, while the second best side doesn’t. But that’s the way it so often is.

Saints will argue they partied with 32,000 fans on the pitch after the final game of the season. What more memories do the fans want? The counter-claim will be this is for the city, for the wider public, something to celebrate the success of Southampton and not just the team.

Saints are following their heads and their hearts, though, and their own traditions.

Next time they win something they will surely board the bus.

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11:01am Tue 8 May 12

saint61 says...

because just like our chairman, we are a none assuming club who just want to go about their business...........a
nd by the way as good and rewarding as promotion is,we actually never won anything.
because just like our chairman, we are a none assuming club who just want to go about their business...........a nd by the way as good and rewarding as promotion is,we actually never won anything. saint61
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11:22am Tue 8 May 12

ottostrasser says...

No bus tour.
1.The players deserve a break.
2.From what I hear the club have drawn a line under this promotion and are already planning for next season.
3.The weather is crap.
4.We are not Portsmyth attention seeking all the time.
No bus tour. 1.The players deserve a break. 2.From what I hear the club have drawn a line under this promotion and are already planning for next season. 3.The weather is crap. 4.We are not Portsmyth attention seeking all the time. ottostrasser
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11:25am Tue 8 May 12

Totton Ric says...

Good idea to have an open top tour, there’s a lot of young blood out there that need’s grabbing before they support the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool etc etc, this would an ideal time for young fans to see the Premiership side, this would be something that they would remember for years like I do of them in the Civic Centre in 76 & also for the players/management to thank fans for there support through the lows through to the highs !!!!!
Good idea to have an open top tour, there’s a lot of young blood out there that need’s grabbing before they support the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool etc etc, this would an ideal time for young fans to see the Premiership side, this would be something that they would remember for years like I do of them in the Civic Centre in 76 & also for the players/management to thank fans for there support through the lows through to the highs !!!!! Totton Ric
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11:40am Tue 8 May 12

mattserg says...

Great idea not to have an open top bus celebration. We didn't win the league. As for 'lots of young blood out there' - they should be supporting their hometown club whichever division they are in rather than glory hunting the bigger teams - to say an open top bus would grab kids to support southampton is laughable. Parents to do their duty and bring kids up with values, which includes not glory hunting.
Great idea not to have an open top bus celebration. We didn't win the league. As for 'lots of young blood out there' - they should be supporting their hometown club whichever division they are in rather than glory hunting the bigger teams - to say an open top bus would grab kids to support southampton is laughable. Parents to do their duty and bring kids up with values, which includes not glory hunting. mattserg
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11:59am Tue 8 May 12

mastershot100 says...

Because they were not winners.Celebrations are not for runners up!
Because they were not winners.Celebrations are not for runners up! mastershot100
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12:22pm Tue 8 May 12

Mr. Miyagi says...

I agree with most comments that an open-top bus tour should be reserved for division or cup final winners only. However, on the subject of trophies, is there not a trophy for finishing runners-up in the championship? The announcer at the Coventry game said it was at West Ham at the time as the FA really wanted them to have it. If so, where is it?
I agree with most comments that an open-top bus tour should be reserved for division or cup final winners only. However, on the subject of trophies, is there not a trophy for finishing runners-up in the championship? The announcer at the Coventry game said it was at West Ham at the time as the FA really wanted them to have it. If so, where is it? Mr. Miyagi
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1:21pm Tue 8 May 12

The Salv says...

Seems silly, it would be like having a open top bus tour for excaping relegation.
Seems silly, it would be like having a open top bus tour for excaping relegation. The Salv
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1:27pm Tue 8 May 12

redsnapper says...

Nothing won yet, nothing to celebrate in such a time honoured style.

BUT Saints and their supporters have done their bit to boost the town, now get the new council to do their bit, and clean up the mess that has become Southampton, and make it a Premier City fit for the World Class Cruise Business and the World Class FC which is being build by NA and NC.

And get the police to do something about the almost weekly reports of violence and murder which seem to be defaming our great city.
Nothing won yet, nothing to celebrate in such a time honoured style. BUT Saints and their supporters have done their bit to boost the town, now get the new council to do their bit, and clean up the mess that has become Southampton, and make it a Premier City fit for the World Class Cruise Business and the World Class FC which is being build by NA and NC. And get the police to do something about the almost weekly reports of violence and murder which seem to be defaming our great city. redsnapper
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3:04pm Tue 8 May 12

WobblyCat says...

Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet! WobblyCat
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3:13pm Tue 8 May 12

Le Tissier's Nose says...

Definitely the right thing! We "celebrate" finishing second when we have bigger fish to fry?

I wouldn't be happy as a Saints fan seeing them on a bus top parade for reaching the Premier League in second place. Saints have much bigger aspirations and goals and WHEN not if we reach them, we can really celebrate!

They involved fans in the pitch invasion against Coventry, the end of season awards dinner and the nights when the players went out - so they have celebrated accordingly with the fans and now deserve some time on their own!
Definitely the right thing! We "celebrate" finishing second when we have bigger fish to fry? I wouldn't be happy as a Saints fan seeing them on a bus top parade for reaching the Premier League in second place. Saints have much bigger aspirations and goals and WHEN not if we reach them, we can really celebrate! They involved fans in the pitch invasion against Coventry, the end of season awards dinner and the nights when the players went out - so they have celebrated accordingly with the fans and now deserve some time on their own! Le Tissier's Nose
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4:51pm Tue 8 May 12

mooky9 says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet![/p][/quote]Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best. mooky9
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4:52pm Tue 8 May 12

sarfhamton says...

Echo, this is the 3rd article about this. It's not happening, now get over it.
Echo, this is the 3rd article about this. It's not happening, now get over it. sarfhamton
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5:25pm Tue 8 May 12

WobblyCat says...

mooky9 wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.
So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American??
[quote][p][bold]mooky9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet![/p][/quote]Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.[/p][/quote]So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American?? WobblyCat
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6:36pm Tue 8 May 12

legod7 says...

I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend
I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend legod7
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6:57pm Tue 8 May 12

mooky9 says...

WobblyCat wrote:
mooky9 wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.
So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American??
Re-read my post. As I said it is a fantastic achievement but not one to do an open top bus tour for. And no not american and judging by your spelling I have a better understanding of english than you do. As for the FA cup I said lets celebrate after we win it. So in answer to your pointless question, I'd think back to back promotions followed up by a cup or two would be worth a bus tour.
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mooky9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet![/p][/quote]Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.[/p][/quote]So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American??[/p][/quote]Re-read my post. As I said it is a fantastic achievement but not one to do an open top bus tour for. And no not american and judging by your spelling I have a better understanding of english than you do. As for the FA cup I said lets celebrate after we win it. So in answer to your pointless question, I'd think back to back promotions followed up by a cup or two would be worth a bus tour. mooky9
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9:53pm Tue 8 May 12

grumpy geezer says...

I've heard its already been booked for next 3 years..
Year 1 for winning the Premier league
Year 2 for winning the Champion league
Year 3 for winning the clubs world cup. Nothing like some optimism.
I've heard its already been booked for next 3 years.. Year 1 for winning the Premier league Year 2 for winning the Champion league Year 3 for winning the clubs world cup. Nothing like some optimism. grumpy geezer
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9:53pm Tue 8 May 12

WobblyCat says...

legod7 wrote:
I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend
Yeah thats the same.
[quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend[/p][/quote]Yeah thats the same. WobblyCat
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9:55pm Tue 8 May 12

WobblyCat says...

mooky9 wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
mooky9 wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.
So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American??
Re-read my post. As I said it is a fantastic achievement but not one to do an open top bus tour for. And no not american and judging by your spelling I have a better understanding of english than you do. As for the FA cup I said lets celebrate after we win it. So in answer to your pointless question, I'd think back to back promotions followed up by a cup or two would be worth a bus tour.
Oops bit of a typo! OK you are more intelligent than me and I bow down.
[quote][p][bold]mooky9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mooky9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet![/p][/quote]Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.[/p][/quote]So the FA cup is a greater achievement than two promotions to the premier league? So you'd be happier still being a league one side as long as we won the FA cup? Yes lets teach our teach your kids that second isn't really good enough, bit rubbish really. You American??[/p][/quote]Re-read my post. As I said it is a fantastic achievement but not one to do an open top bus tour for. And no not american and judging by your spelling I have a better understanding of english than you do. As for the FA cup I said lets celebrate after we win it. So in answer to your pointless question, I'd think back to back promotions followed up by a cup or two would be worth a bus tour.[/p][/quote]Oops bit of a typo! OK you are more intelligent than me and I bow down. WobblyCat
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3:40am Wed 9 May 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

WobblyCat wrote:
legod7 wrote:
I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend
Yeah thats the same.
It is actually quite similar.....
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legod7[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Manchester United will have an open top bus for finishing second to Manchester City next weekend[/p][/quote]Yeah thats the same.[/p][/quote]It is actually quite similar..... ShakeyWiffles
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3:43am Wed 9 May 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

redsnapper wrote:
Nothing won yet, nothing to celebrate in such a time honoured style.

BUT Saints and their supporters have done their bit to boost the town, now get the new council to do their bit, and clean up the mess that has become Southampton, and make it a Premier City fit for the World Class Cruise Business and the World Class FC which is being build by NA and NC.

And get the police to do something about the almost weekly reports of violence and murder which seem to be defaming our great city.
Totally agree with that! It's shocking the constant news of murder and police cordoning off roads because of violence. It'd be nice to have one but then we'd be subject to yet more ridicule from all the other clubs and end up being a slight embarrassment.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Nothing won yet, nothing to celebrate in such a time honoured style. BUT Saints and their supporters have done their bit to boost the town, now get the new council to do their bit, and clean up the mess that has become Southampton, and make it a Premier City fit for the World Class Cruise Business and the World Class FC which is being build by NA and NC. And get the police to do something about the almost weekly reports of violence and murder which seem to be defaming our great city.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with that! It's shocking the constant news of murder and police cordoning off roads because of violence. It'd be nice to have one but then we'd be subject to yet more ridicule from all the other clubs and end up being a slight embarrassment. ShakeyWiffles
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6:08am Wed 9 May 12

truelysaints says...

mooky9 wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet!
Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.
Surely its all about getting back into the Premier. Is this not winning something then I dont know what is? Anyhow its also about the fans wants as much as what the team wants. Its also about giving the whole population of Southampton a celebration. God knows we need something to celebrate these days. Its also about celebrating for striving to be the best. In any sport coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd are rewarded with medals and celebrated on the podium.
[quote][p][bold]mooky9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: Can't believe you lot! Ask Brighton fans what is harder and more revered, winning the league one title once in two seasons or being runner up twice in two seasons and getting back to back promotions to the premier league. Then really rub it in and ask them what they would prefer. Saying we haven't won anything is churlish, I bet you any manager or player would say back to back promotions is harder and more unlikely than winning a title once. If the club don't want to do it that’s one thing but don't say it's not deserved. If they have one and only 6 people turn up then you’re right but I would imagine tens of thousands would like to say ‘you’re the best’ (even if on paper they weren’t). If the last two years haven't been incredibly successful for SFC and worthy of a fantastic parade then I'm on the wrong planet![/p][/quote]Yes it's a great thing they have been promoted but at the end of the day they came second. A fantastic effort but second is not champions. A bus tour would then say "we are saints second is our best achievement". How about we wait and celebrate properely when saints win something... Say the fa cup!? Lets not teach our kids second is the best they can hope for lets teach them we always strive to be the best.[/p][/quote]Surely its all about getting back into the Premier. Is this not winning something then I dont know what is? Anyhow its also about the fans wants as much as what the team wants. Its also about giving the whole population of Southampton a celebration. God knows we need something to celebrate these days. Its also about celebrating for striving to be the best. In any sport coming 1st, 2nd and 3rd are rewarded with medals and celebrated on the podium. truelysaints
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6:18am Wed 9 May 12

truelysaints says...

If we don't have a bus ride through Southampton, then there should be one through Poopey.
If we don't have a bus ride through Southampton, then there should be one through Poopey. truelysaints
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6:57am Wed 9 May 12

RedArmy1 says...

IMO

It was a MISTAKE not to have
an Open Top Bus Celebration with the Fans out on the Streets.

The Double Promotion would have merited it.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY 2012. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR.
IMO It was a MISTAKE not to have an Open Top Bus Celebration with the Fans out on the Streets. The Double Promotion would have merited it. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY 2012. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR. RedArmy1
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