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When I was in Spain on holiday recently I ended up talking to someone who was involved in trying to reduce graffiti on historic buildings in a small town in central Spain where we were staying.

It was interesting to hear how he and the authorities had come to the same conclusion we have about that type of problem.

Firstly, it's no good just blaming young people and stigmatising them as trouble makers. Secondly, policing needs to be done in a way which delivers enforcement when it's needed but is also about engagement, good communication, trust and confidence; a service not just a force.

So they had involved young people in more positive activities and helped them to understand the importance of the historic buildings in their town.

As for the policing I regretted describing, in inappropriate jest, the local Police as "PCSOs with guns". That wasn't fair to them or to our excellent PCSOs.

The Spanish Police (the local ones not national) were clearly making a real effort, as we are, to be more accessible and more responsive to people in the town; better relationships including with young people. (My one engagement with the Guardia Civil wasn't so positive!) The outcome of all this seemed to be working.

They described a real reduction in graffiti and less problems attributed to the few disruptive young people and they managed this through common sense and involving members of the community to help in the problem solving.

Pity we needed a whole Neighbourhood Policing programme to return us to this way of working which to some extent is how we used to operate anyway, albeit some time ago.

Still, there's always lessons to be learnt from the past and from other countries and how they do things although I think I'll leave the guns with the Spanish Police and others abroad.

Comments(6)

05bar76 says...
2:32pm Thu 26 Aug 10

PCSO's are useless and a waste of money. They are basically security guards in a police like uniform with some token powers.

I wonder if he would have been thinking "we'll leave the guns with the Spanish Police and others" if police-hating Raoul Moat had been knocking on his door with his shotgun.

Bassett-Mikey says...
2:51pm Thu 26 Aug 10

Maybe Eastern-European lessons might help cut down on some of the illegal cars floating about!

freemantlegirl2 says...
8:07am Fri 27 Aug 10

With respect, the Policing in Spain can be rather haphazard! (I lived there for some three years). Tolerance is low, a slap round the head isn't uncommon and they can just put you in jail without having to bring you before Magistrate's like that. However, having said that when I complained to the local police that a time share tout had abused me when I told him not to bother with the spiel as I lived there and he was abusuve, the police marched straight out, got him, put him in the back of the police car and locked him up for 48 hours! I was impressed. If they did that here there would be an outcry but it was just what this idiot needed. The Guardia Civil are another matter completely. Upset them and you'll be in very big trouble in all sorts of ways! I wouldn't recommend it I've seen what they can do and frankly I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of it.

espanuel says...
3:25pm Sat 28 Aug 10

freemantelgirl2. totaly agree with your comments about the local Policia and the Guardia Civil. I have been living in Spain for the last six years, not in the commercial part or holiday venues but the ploice are A1 and should be adopted in the UK. OK you do get crime but you do know that the police will sort it out. There is one thing that the police do not like over here is domestic violance, drunks,drugs no matter what you hear in the UK there is zero tolerance and you are straight inside. This officer wants to get around more and study the neighbourhoods and what the local police can do. I'm not knocking the local police as they try to do the job to the best of there ability. The problem with policing in the UK is from above, they make the laws and the locals on the shop floor cannot fulfill.

Steve Hudson says...
8:38pm Sat 28 Aug 10

Engaging with the local community and tackling crime. The other night I was caught speeding on West Quay road at 11.30pm. I was doing 42mph. I was amazed that in a time of cutbacks there were 5 Police offiers and 4 cars tied up in this sting.
They did not breathalyse 1 person despite the time. I questooned if it was good use of Police time and was told the Sargent targets this roads because we get so many.

This is surely not a priority and these officers would be better served patrolling known crime hotspots. Not a stretch of dual carriageway that has got a stupidly low speed limit in the middle of the night?

my idea for PCSO's which i have submitted to the government website is that they shoudld amalgamate them with parking oficers and allow them to patrol the streets. they can then issues tickets where they are needed and Police the streets when that is needed. As echoed in a story in todays Echo traffic wardens have no flexibility and there sole pupose is to gove tickets. Not keep the traffic flowing, not too add a reassuring presence in the neighbourhood.

MartinWellbourne says...
2:04pm Sun 29 Aug 10

"As for the policing I regretted describing, in inappropriate jest, the local Police as "PCSOs with guns". That wasn't fair to them or to our excellent PCSOs"
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How many times have you therefore judged local "books" by "their covers" - even in jest?

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