It’s not fare comment

Daily Echo: Labour politician Rowenna Davis leads a protest at Southampton Central railway station against rail fare increases. Labour politician Rowenna Davis leads a protest at Southampton Central railway station against rail fare increases.

When Labour were in power the rail fares were allowed to go up year after year after year way above inflation.

Now when the Conservative Government at least caps the fares at inflation Labour suddenly start making a fuss. Who do they think that they are kidding?

ALEC SAMUELS, West End.

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2:06pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Linesman says...

This Tory Government has been in power for more than Three Years, and have done sweet FA about curbing rail fares, but with a General Election a year away, have decided to talk about it.

It should be noted that all of the promises that Cameron is making, are for things that his government will do IFTHEY ARE RE-ELECTED.


Tory electioneering has already started.
This Tory Government has been in power for more than Three Years, and have done sweet FA about curbing rail fares, but with a General Election a year away, have decided to talk about it. It should be noted that all of the promises that Cameron is making, are for things that his government will do IFTHEY ARE RE-ELECTED. Tory electioneering has already started. Linesman
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4:33pm Thu 9 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways.
It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up.
We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways. It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up. bigfella777
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6:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

downfader says...

bigfella777 wrote:
We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways.
It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up.
I think part of the problem is that its a private business now, yet still funded in part by the tax payer. Imagine if Tesco went to Government for public funding in such a way, people would be quite upset.

Another part of the problem is that business and the public sector wont cap top end salaries. This leads to huge funds being taken away from improving a service and put in indiviuals' pockets without any relation to performance.

I agree - Labour let down public transport massively. They need to learn to support the voter a fair bit more, even consider re-nationalisation - the current approach isnt working for commuters - even under a Tory Coalition.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways. It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up.[/p][/quote]I think part of the problem is that its a private business now, yet still funded in part by the tax payer. Imagine if Tesco went to Government for public funding in such a way, people would be quite upset. Another part of the problem is that business and the public sector wont cap top end salaries. This leads to huge funds being taken away from improving a service and put in indiviuals' pockets without any relation to performance. I agree - Labour let down public transport massively. They need to learn to support the voter a fair bit more, even consider re-nationalisation - the current approach isnt working for commuters - even under a Tory Coalition. downfader
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7:26pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Linesman says...

downfader wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways.
It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up.
I think part of the problem is that its a private business now, yet still funded in part by the tax payer. Imagine if Tesco went to Government for public funding in such a way, people would be quite upset.

Another part of the problem is that business and the public sector wont cap top end salaries. This leads to huge funds being taken away from improving a service and put in indiviuals' pockets without any relation to performance.

I agree - Labour let down public transport massively. They need to learn to support the voter a fair bit more, even consider re-nationalisation - the current approach isnt working for commuters - even under a Tory Coalition.
Under Labour, although far from being best in the world, it was affordable. It was a nationalised industry, and we, the tax-payers, owned it.

Then came the Tories, under Margaret Thatcher, who claimed that, by selling off the railways, we would have a more efficient service and competition would keep the fares down.

It was FRAGMENTED, and sold off, with different companied running different routes, freight run by another company,
over tracks that were owned by another company, calling at stations owned by someone else.

Why was it done this way?

For political reasons. So that it would be virtually impossible to re-nationalise.

So the railways are now a Private Enterprise, but has anyone seen where this alleged 'competition' has kept the fares down?

No! Neither have I.

Despite being sold off, with shareholders being paid a dividend, the government, meaning The Tax-Payer, is subsidising them.

We used to have the Corporation Bus Service, proudly carrying the City's crest, but the Thatcher government said that it had to be sold off, with the same old BS that competition would keep the fares down and provide a better service.

Have we?

I think Not.

It is Not a bus Service to the customer, but a bus Company that serves its shareholders and when one company raises its fares, the other follows suite. More routes cut than are opened up.

And you claim that Labour let down Public Transport massively?

You must be joking!
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: We have one of the most antiquated rail systems in Europe. Either all the taxpayers pay even if they don't use it or the regular passengers pay a higher percentage in return for a better service. You cannot have it both ways. It was Labour who invested nothing and the Tories are having to play catch up.[/p][/quote]I think part of the problem is that its a private business now, yet still funded in part by the tax payer. Imagine if Tesco went to Government for public funding in such a way, people would be quite upset. Another part of the problem is that business and the public sector wont cap top end salaries. This leads to huge funds being taken away from improving a service and put in indiviuals' pockets without any relation to performance. I agree - Labour let down public transport massively. They need to learn to support the voter a fair bit more, even consider re-nationalisation - the current approach isnt working for commuters - even under a Tory Coalition.[/p][/quote]Under Labour, although far from being best in the world, it was affordable. It was a nationalised industry, and we, the tax-payers, owned it. Then came the Tories, under Margaret Thatcher, who claimed that, by selling off the railways, we would have a more efficient service and competition would keep the fares down. It was FRAGMENTED, and sold off, with different companied running different routes, freight run by another company, over tracks that were owned by another company, calling at stations owned by someone else. Why was it done this way? For political reasons. So that it would be virtually impossible to re-nationalise. So the railways are now a Private Enterprise, but has anyone seen where this alleged 'competition' has kept the fares down? No! Neither have I. Despite being sold off, with shareholders being paid a dividend, the government, meaning The Tax-Payer, is subsidising them. We used to have the Corporation Bus Service, proudly carrying the City's crest, but the Thatcher government said that it had to be sold off, with the same old BS that competition would keep the fares down and provide a better service. Have we? I think Not. It is Not a bus Service to the customer, but a bus Company that serves its shareholders and when one company raises its fares, the other follows suite. More routes cut than are opened up. And you claim that Labour let down Public Transport massively? You must be joking! Linesman
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