A flat rate fare for OAPs?

A flat rate fare for OAPs?

A flat rate fare for OAPs?

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THERE is mention that pensioners’ free passes are to be withdrawn. As a pensioner I would be quite happy to pay a flat rate of 50p to anywhere if it kept buses on the road. I have lobbied many of my friends who all agree.

D BURTON, Southampton.

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12:36pm Wed 26 Mar 14

grampsw says...

What about all the other free holders of bus passes?
What about all the other free holders of bus passes? grampsw
  • Score: 2

5:24pm Wed 26 Mar 14

loosehead says...

well said!
well said! loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

7:53am Thu 27 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have? loosehead
  • Score: -1

10:03am Thu 27 Mar 14

camerajuan says...

There should be a flat fare for everyone. The prices all buses charge here are pathetic. Lothian Regional Transport in Edinburgh has a flat fare for Adults, Children and OAPs's. It's not a coincidence that they regularly win the best bus company in the UK award. £1.50 for an 18 mile bus journey is amazing. All day ticket unlimited journeys costs £3.50! The buses are also in great nick and the drivers aren't incompetent.
There should be a flat fare for everyone. The prices all buses charge here are pathetic. Lothian Regional Transport in Edinburgh has a flat fare for Adults, Children and OAPs's. It's not a coincidence that they regularly win the best bus company in the UK award. £1.50 for an 18 mile bus journey is amazing. All day ticket unlimited journeys costs £3.50! The buses are also in great nick and the drivers aren't incompetent. camerajuan
  • Score: 0

11:31am Thu 27 Mar 14

loosehead says...

camerajuan wrote:
There should be a flat fare for everyone. The prices all buses charge here are pathetic. Lothian Regional Transport in Edinburgh has a flat fare for Adults, Children and OAPs's. It's not a coincidence that they regularly win the best bus company in the UK award. £1.50 for an 18 mile bus journey is amazing. All day ticket unlimited journeys costs £3.50! The buses are also in great nick and the drivers aren't incompetent.
if I could get a bus pass(monthly) for about Twenty Quid I'd jump at it as this means I could have more than two hours in the gym.
I go three times a week & paying £50 for a monthly bus pass is double that of the cost of petrol for the same journeys that's why I drive.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: There should be a flat fare for everyone. The prices all buses charge here are pathetic. Lothian Regional Transport in Edinburgh has a flat fare for Adults, Children and OAPs's. It's not a coincidence that they regularly win the best bus company in the UK award. £1.50 for an 18 mile bus journey is amazing. All day ticket unlimited journeys costs £3.50! The buses are also in great nick and the drivers aren't incompetent.[/p][/quote]if I could get a bus pass(monthly) for about Twenty Quid I'd jump at it as this means I could have more than two hours in the gym. I go three times a week & paying £50 for a monthly bus pass is double that of the cost of petrol for the same journeys that's why I drive. loosehead
  • Score: -2

12:36pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

3:48pm Thu 27 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up. loosehead
  • Score: -2

8:08pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

8:10pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities. Linesman
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Fri 28 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.
funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.[/p][/quote]funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains? loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:16pm Fri 28 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you?
As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes.
Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare.
This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government.
Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour.
But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.[/p][/quote]Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you? As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes. Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare. This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government. Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour. But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make. loosehead
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you?
As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes.
Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare.
This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government.
Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour.
But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.
You obviously know stuff all. I am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for a different party. However Labour is a more honest party than Dodgy Dave's, the one that I used to vote for when it represented the people and not rich old Etonians.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.[/p][/quote]Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you? As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes. Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare. This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government. Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour. But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.[/p][/quote]You obviously know stuff all. I am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for a different party. However Labour is a more honest party than Dodgy Dave's, the one that I used to vote for when it represented the people and not rich old Etonians. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

8:03am Sat 29 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you?
As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes.
Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare.
This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government.
Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour.
But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.
You obviously know stuff all. I am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for a different party. However Labour is a more honest party than Dodgy Dave's, the one that I used to vote for when it represented the people and not rich old Etonians.
Who the Hell let you stand for UKIP again? I think Colin Hingston should realise by now you cost UKIP votes.
So Basset I wonder why? OH! I know you think the Tory voters will vote for you a bleeding heart socialist.
I hope the other candidates read these posts & put your comments on their leaflets & let the "TORY" voters see what a raving left winger you are.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.[/p][/quote]Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you? As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes. Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare. This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government. Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour. But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.[/p][/quote]You obviously know stuff all. I am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for a different party. However Labour is a more honest party than Dodgy Dave's, the one that I used to vote for when it represented the people and not rich old Etonians.[/p][/quote]Who the Hell let you stand for UKIP again? I think Colin Hingston should realise by now you cost UKIP votes. So Basset I wonder why? OH! I know you think the Tory voters will vote for you a bleeding heart socialist. I hope the other candidates read these posts & put your comments on their leaflets & let the "TORY" voters see what a raving left winger you are. loosehead
  • Score: 0

12:11pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.
funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains?
Funny, in all your posts you blame the previous Labour government, yet you won't accept the real villains who cut the government subsidy, nor do you criticise the International Bankers that caused the problems but are now picking up six-figure bonuses.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.[/p][/quote]funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains?[/p][/quote]Funny, in all your posts you blame the previous Labour government, yet you won't accept the real villains who cut the government subsidy, nor do you criticise the International Bankers that caused the problems but are now picking up six-figure bonuses. Linesman
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12:15pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Inform Al says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.
funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains?
Funny, in all your posts you blame the previous Labour government, yet you won't accept the real villains who cut the government subsidy, nor do you criticise the International Bankers that caused the problems but are now picking up six-figure bonuses.
As I said, I do not do historical blame, the fact that the present government is even worse than the last means that I struggle to find any thing good about the Tory party at present.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]I do not do the historical blaming game, I deal with issues as they come. So if I find it cheaper to pollute the atmosphere than to get on a bus, I will.[/p][/quote]funny in all your posts you blame the Tories yet you won't accept the real villains?[/p][/quote]Funny, in all your posts you blame the previous Labour government, yet you won't accept the real villains who cut the government subsidy, nor do you criticise the International Bankers that caused the problems but are now picking up six-figure bonuses.[/p][/quote]As I said, I do not do historical blame, the fact that the present government is even worse than the last means that I struggle to find any thing good about the Tory party at present. Inform Al
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12:19pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you?
As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes.
Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare.
This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government.
Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour.
But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.
You prefer to ignore the FACT that the government subsidy was paid to local councils for them deal with the bus passes.

Surely, even you would not be thinking that Stagecoach, First Bus etc were sending in their expense claims to Westminster each month.

This Tory-led government, has cut the government grants, part of which was made to help cover the cost of the free bus pass, and it is local councils that decide on how the bus pass operates.

In some areas the pass is not valid until after 0900, where in others it is 0930, and I believe that in some areas it is accepted before those times. Those times are agreed by the Local Councils NOT (Repeat) NOT by Westminster.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.[/p][/quote]Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you? As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes. Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare. This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government. Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour. But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.[/p][/quote]You prefer to ignore the FACT that the government subsidy was paid to local councils for them deal with the bus passes. Surely, even you would not be thinking that Stagecoach, First Bus etc were sending in their expense claims to Westminster each month. This Tory-led government, has cut the government grants, part of which was made to help cover the cost of the free bus pass, and it is local councils that decide on how the bus pass operates. In some areas the pass is not valid until after 0900, where in others it is 0930, and I believe that in some areas it is accepted before those times. Those times are agreed by the Local Councils NOT (Repeat) NOT by Westminster. Linesman
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3:32pm Sat 29 Mar 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.
so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?
I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.
You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third .
Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.
It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.
Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you?
As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes.
Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare.
This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government.
Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour.
But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.
You prefer to ignore the FACT that the government subsidy was paid to local councils for them deal with the bus passes.

Surely, even you would not be thinking that Stagecoach, First Bus etc were sending in their expense claims to Westminster each month.

This Tory-led government, has cut the government grants, part of which was made to help cover the cost of the free bus pass, and it is local councils that decide on how the bus pass operates.

In some areas the pass is not valid until after 0900, where in others it is 0930, and I believe that in some areas it is accepted before those times. Those times are agreed by the Local Councils NOT (Repeat) NOT by Westminster.
so did Labour cut & then do away with the funding of OAP bus passes?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: No problem, I usually walk but if the free pass is withdrawn I will have to use my car more. This should help the traffic flow in Southampton, not.[/p][/quote]so you can afford to run a car but still use/have a freebie you can afford not to have?[/p][/quote]I usually walk, it's quicker than using the No 5, unless it's raining then I use my bus pass rather than add to the traffic and congestion. However if the government prefer I add to the pollution, so be it.[/p][/quote]You know that Labour introduced this scheme with a promise to the bus companies of a 100% refund of the fare they cut this down to 1third & to keep the passes local councils took over the rest of the fare,then Labour cut all government funding & councils had to shoulder the burden of debt but could only afford a third . Now that can't be acheived so if you want to really be honest & point the finger of blame then blame a Labour government for not keeping this funded by central Government as they promised when they set it up.[/p][/quote]It is your beloved Tory-led coalition government that has cut back on the grants to local authorities.[/p][/quote]Oh No here we go with you getting it all wrong again & saying I've got it wrong you are so wrong aren't you? As I've explained to Inform AL it was your's & his beloved Labour government that set up the OAP bus pass scheme with the promise of full payment to the bus companies so they accepted the passes. Then with in months Labour renege on that agreement & cut it to a third with local councils stepping in to make it up to 50% of the fare only for the Labour government to with draw all funding leaving the councils to pay it all or as the councils have done a third of the fare. This is a reason why many routes were either cut or were less frequent so this subsidy was virtually killed off by a Labour Government. Now councils have to prioritise & they can no longer afford to fund this scheme but if Labour had kept it as Government funded then you & Al could blame this government if it was cut but Labour washed their hands of it so blame Labour. But I guess you'll come out with the usual "I was at a Meeting I know best"statement you usually make.[/p][/quote]You prefer to ignore the FACT that the government subsidy was paid to local councils for them deal with the bus passes. Surely, even you would not be thinking that Stagecoach, First Bus etc were sending in their expense claims to Westminster each month. This Tory-led government, has cut the government grants, part of which was made to help cover the cost of the free bus pass, and it is local councils that decide on how the bus pass operates. In some areas the pass is not valid until after 0900, where in others it is 0930, and I believe that in some areas it is accepted before those times. Those times are agreed by the Local Councils NOT (Repeat) NOT by Westminster.[/p][/quote]so did Labour cut & then do away with the funding of OAP bus passes? loosehead
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