The history lesson Nigel Adkins cannot afford to ignore (From Daily Echo)

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

I would stick with Sadkins for 37 games at least as this is hilarious....PUP

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

John Gillham wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Two promotions in successive years bringing the Saints from the third tier to the Premier League. I would reverse your question. When would you call a manager a failure?

Force14 wrote:
Todays latest new manager odds.

4/6 Rusty the dancing Chimp
3/1 Glen Hoddle
4/1 Rafa Benitez
8/1 Coco the Clown
12/1 Michael Appleton
14/1 Dave Jones
16/1 Harry Redknapp
100/1 Sir Alex Ferguson

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

I would stick with Sadkins for 37 games at least as this is hilarious....PUP

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Force14 wrote:
Todays latest new manager odds. 4/6 Rusty the dancing Chimp 3/1 Glen Hoddle 4/1 Rafa Benitez 8/1 Coco the Clown 12/1 Michael Appleton 14/1 Dave Jones 16/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Sir Alex Ferguson

Licky_Rambert wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Todays latest new manager odds. 4/6 Rusty the dancing Chimp 3/1 Glen Hoddle 4/1 Rafa Benitez 8/1 Coco the Clown 12/1 Michael Appleton 14/1 Dave Jones 16/1 Harry Redknapp 100/1 Sir Alex Ferguson

Todays latest (league 1) promotion odds:

P*mpey - 40/1

For those that dont understand betting/odds. This means if you put £10 on p*mpey to be promoted, you lose £10.

TEBOURBA wrote:
The Echo is stirring it again which does its reputation as a local, community paper, no good at all.
I expect there are Novembers in the past where Saints won 12 points, why not pick one of those?
What should happen now is for NC to publicly support NA by extending his Contract.
Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to help NA, there is not a single person at SMS with PL experience, and it shows on the pitch.
The coach would not be seen as a threat to NA as his contract would already have been extended.
NC to risk coming out in to the daylight and speak to the supporters who pay his wages, NC's silence is deafening.
If none of these things are done then I can only conclude that NC is either happy with current situation and is firmly in the 78% group of happy clappers, believing NA can do it all on his own, as the song goes -- The Sun will come out Tomorrow ---OR--- NC is with the 22% and NA's days are numbered.
The lack of any statement from NC promotes harmful speculation
and shows to me just what an uncaring, man and customer manager he really is.

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Thank you for your opinion.

Still reluctant or unable to answer a simple question. When would you sack a failing football manager?

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote: For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question? There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season: - Man Utd - Man City - Arsenal - Spurs - Everton 1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well: - West Ham That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses: - Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break. As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result. Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Thank you for your opinion. Still reluctant or unable to answer a simple question. When would you sack a failing football manager?

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Thank you for your opinion.

Still reluctant or unable to answer a simple question. When would you sack a failing football manager?

As soon as he becomes a failing manager.

NA is not a failing manager

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote: For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question? There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season: - Man Utd - Man City - Arsenal - Spurs - Everton 1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well: - West Ham That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses: - Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break. As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result. Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Thank you for your opinion. Still reluctant or unable to answer a simple question. When would you sack a failing football manager?

I think he's answered your question perfectly.

Simple people mostly ask simple questions and when there is not a simple answer the simple people simply can't grasp that! Easy really.

Looking forward to a successful November and a continued exciting Premier League campaign with the young, talented manager that is Nigel Adkins at the helm of our great football club.

Alicesdad wrote:
What an utter bucket of rambling incoherent wandering babble. This is the most insubstantial piece of pseudo-journalism I have seen on this subject. You simply have nothing to say. Linking our current position to events that happened in 2004 is an exercise in rousing hysteria that is absolutley abysmal. We should be looking to encourage the team, support the manager. You might just as well look at the sequence of weather forecasts over the previous five days and see if we ever had bad results at the same time as a hurricane, coinciding with halloween and just before bonfire night..... Oh !! you metion bonfire night too, albeit misquoting the rhyme. This paper won't be happy until they can report a sacking. When the results turn, and they will, I will remind these threads every single day of the crud that was pumped out over the last month.

saintsupnorth wrote:
Good article that puts things into perspective, we have played more top clubs than any other side so far and newly promoted. We have been dealt a very bad card, almost as if the FA sat in there office laughing like mad men at the fixture list. But talking about NA future almost on a daily basis is starting to bore me now, more interested in doing what a fan does best. Supporting Saints no matter what is happening. Supporters moaning everyday is not really productive in keeping morale up in the squad.

AaronLeeSaint wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Todays latest new manager odds.

4/6 Rusty the dancing Chimp
3/1 Glen Hoddle
4/1 Rafa Benitez
8/1 Coco the Clown
12/1 Michael Appleton
14/1 Dave Jones
16/1 Harry Redknapp
100/1 Sir Alex Ferguson

I've heard a lot about Rusty the dancing Chimp, certainly someone with experience, could turn the season around?

Storm Shadow wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

I would stick with Sadkins for 37 games at least as this is hilarious....PUP

To be honest Force14 nobody cares what you think, but please carry on wasting your time its a free country.

SO50 Saint wrote:
Force are you actually Rusty? you seem to be very intent on getting him the job or is rusty your lover?

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

Force14 wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
Force are you actually Rusty? you seem to be very intent on getting him the job or is rusty your lover?

I want Sadkins to stay but if he gets booted out Rusty the Dancing Chimp would be my choice......PUP

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:
Before we seriously think about ditching a manager whose success has surpassed even the great Ted Bates perhaps we can reflect on the two other great managers this club has had. Ted Bates took us from old third to old first division but had to endure a spell of 16 games in his first season in the top flight which included 11 defeats. Similarly Lawrie Mac saw us relegated in his first season (we were 5th in the league when he took over) and endured a 19 game spell with 11 defeats and 5 draws. didn't do too badly in the end did we.

PTID1898 wrote:
FAKE TAN ALERT!!!!! KEEP NIGEL IN HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF HUMILIATING THE SC****RS,CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY'S HUMILIATION COME ON THE BAGGIES.PLAY UP POMPEY

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

Storm Shadow wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

I would stick with Sadkins for 37 games at least as this is hilarious....PUP

To be honest Force14 nobody cares what you think, but please carry on wasting your time its a free country.

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Right, so we should start winning some games then? Controversial...

St Retford - Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same person ....Pathetic

You need to seek help. In fact, we'll help you if it'll get you to bugger off a bit quicker. Why not lie back and tell us about your mother or something?

You fool no one - its so obvious, try harder you silly Stain.

St Retford wrote:

Force14 wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
Force are you actually Rusty? you seem to be very intent on getting him the job or is rusty your lover?

I want Sadkins to stay but if he gets booted out Rusty the Dancing Chimp would be my choice......PUP

You do realise that it's only you that thinks the whole 'Rusty the Dancing Chimp' thing is funny? I hope you're having an absolute hoot with it you weirdo.

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Force14 wrote:

scooter75 wrote: It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on. The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

His biggest fans ? hmmmmmm Lamberts a big fat lump.

Ted Rogers wrote:
@ Storm Shadow

There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts.

My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period.

My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager.

I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense.

I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ontario Saint wrote:
I cannot believe the Echo is totally obsessed in writing "Atkins Stories"

Cannot believe that the Sports staff are unable to let a day go by without putting Nigel;s pic on the Sports page.

Surely NA must be wondering why the Echo won't leave him alone for a day or two. The last thing he needs is the constant pressure the Sportswriter puts on him by indirectly suggesting he could be sacked at anytime.

I think the Sportswriter needs to put himself in Atkins position. They need to ask themselves how they would feel if someone questioned their journalism ability and their job was in jeopardy.

The Echo would be better served in getting behind Nigel and giving the credit he deserves in getting back to back promotions .The negativity in questioning Nigel's job on a daily basis will not help him nor the players confidence something that is needed at this critical time.

I think everyone would be more interested in reading a story about Gaston Ramires and how his injury is progressing and how he likes being in Southampton.

Give Nigel a break or some support something he really needs.. why not write a positive article "Thank you Nigel for the double promotion ....the Echo is behind you and has the utmost confidence in your ability to turn things around"

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:
@ Storm Shadow

There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts.

My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period.

My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager.

I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense.

I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager.

and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over

Storm Shadow says...
3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12

Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

Storm Shadow wrote:
Something that Allardyce the day before the start of the 2013/13 season.

"if you get off to good start, the anxieties diminsh and it becomes easier"

Very true words, my guess that the £35m spent (and underwritten by future income streams) was meant to give us that good start. Sadly that has failed to come about.

Ted Rogers wrote:

Force14 wrote:

scooter75 wrote: It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on. The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

His biggest fans ? hmmmmmm Lamberts a big fat lump.

Can't be a coincidence that all these complete w@nkers come out at half term.

Go and play outside you pathetic little worms.

Storm Shadow wrote:
Force14 your articulate quips are wasted on me, I only respond to intelligent and reasoned debate.

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

seventh-junction wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Force14 wrote:

scooter75 wrote: It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on. The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

His biggest fans ? hmmmmmm Lamberts a big fat lump.

Can't be a coincidence that all these complete w@nkers come out at half term.

Go and play outside you pathetic little worms.

Agree. Sad little Westwood wannabe's.
I bet they've got all the gastly blue and white bedroom set. Curtains, lamp shades, quilt covers and rugs etc.
Ignore the fish fiddling freaks

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are:

Alex Ferguson 58%
Arsene Wenger 57%
Nigel Adkins 57%
David Moyes 44%
Harry Redknapp 40%
Michael Appleton 26%

Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

SO50 Saint wrote:
Force I've asked some questions about Portsmouth could you please answer them would love to know how you are getting on

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

St Retford wrote:
It's where you finish not how you start.

That is all.

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are:

Alex Ferguson 58%
Arsene Wenger 57%
Nigel Adkins 57%
David Moyes 44%
Harry Redknapp 40%
Michael Appleton 26%

Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

I would stick with Sadkins for 37 games at least as this is hilarious....PUP

To be honest Force14 nobody cares what you think, but please carry on wasting your time its a free country.

Storm Shadow - Kent 141

Same sad person.

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are:

Alex Ferguson 58%
Arsene Wenger 57%
Nigel Adkins 57%
David Moyes 44%
Harry Redknapp 40%
Michael Appleton 26%

Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Snebs wrote:
Thought the observations made by the echo were good and fair. The SFC is a business and when a business starts to fail then things need to change, simple as that. The team is not good enough for the EPL, that is very clear. Without the fan base and folks turning up for games then your business will also fail. To the fans that went all the way up to Leeds you should ask for compensation as the performance you watched was a disgrace. We need an experienced Manager with the right support to stop the flood of goals against and with enough influence and friends in the business to attract the type of players we need to survive and we all know who that is.

JohnItaly wrote:
What would be a more interesting and informative history lesson would be an analysis of the fate of those clubs that were deemed to be in trouble in November / December of any season and changed manager. How many missed the dreaded drop? Running parallel with that analysis a similar one on the fortunes of those clubs that have stuck with their manager through "thick and thin". My gut feeling tells me the latter will prove to be provide more success.

mack chinnon wrote:
Im hoping that in 5 years time people will be on this site saying "Nige, please dont take the England job"

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are:

Alex Ferguson 58%
Arsene Wenger 57%
Nigel Adkins 57%
David Moyes 44%
Harry Redknapp 40%
Michael Appleton 26%

Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one.

Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all.

But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Top reply St.Pete, and probably the feelings of most Saints fans and anyone that knows anything about football.
As far as I'm concerned we are 4 points off of what I'd thought we'd have, no time to panic, back the team, back the manager.

PTID1898 wrote:
FAKE TAN ALERT!!!!! KEEP NIGEL IN HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF HUMILIATING THE SC****RS,CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY'S HUMILIATION COME ON THE BAGGIES.PLAY UP POMPEY

Force14 wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
Force I've asked some questions about Portsmouth could you please answer them would love to know how you are getting on

No time...some of us have to work..ta ta for now.....PUP

PTID1898 wrote:
FAKE TAN ALERT!!!!! KEEP NIGEL IN HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF HUMILIATING THE SC****RS,CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY'S HUMILIATION COME ON THE BAGGIES.PLAY UP POMPEY

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Top reply St.Pete, and probably the feelings of most Saints fans and anyone that knows anything about football.
As far as I'm concerned we are 4 points off of what I'd thought we'd have, no time to panic, back the team, back the manager.

will you be happy if after 18 games we have amassed 8 points.the team and NA have to do better.

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm sure most posters on here know of examples in their own working lives where a fellow worker has been over promoted.
Superb at the job they were doing, recognised by the management and promoted to a more senior position where they have struggled and become a shadow of their former selves.
This has happened to Nigel, by his well earned, own success in the last 2 seasons he has been whisked in to a position in the PL for which he is not fully ready.
Like anyone placed in this position he needs an experienced person to lean on, to get a second opinion from, discuss tactics, share views on the pros and cons of players, etc.
Nigel has no one of that ilk, there is no one at SMS with PL experience.
I think Nigel could be one of the finest managers Saints have ever had and I do not want him to be sacked.
Surely bringing in an experenced old head to help Nigel makes sense?
What is there to lose by doing this?
Isn't it better to try changing things rather than hoping and praying that it will get better and that teams around us will lose?

Mush On The Beach wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm sure most posters on here know of examples in their own working lives where a fellow worker has been over promoted.
Superb at the job they were doing, recognised by the management and promoted to a more senior position where they have struggled and become a shadow of their former selves.
This has happened to Nigel, by his well earned, own success in the last 2 seasons he has been whisked in to a position in the PL for which he is not fully ready.
Like anyone placed in this position he needs an experienced person to lean on, to get a second opinion from, discuss tactics, share views on the pros and cons of players, etc.
Nigel has no one of that ilk, there is no one at SMS with PL experience.
I think Nigel could be one of the finest managers Saints have ever had and I do not want him to be sacked.
Surely bringing in an experenced old head to help Nigel makes sense?
What is there to lose by doing this?
Isn't it better to try changing things rather than hoping and praying that it will get better and that teams around us will lose?

I don’t men this in a rude way but have you been checked out for dementia lately .... you crap on about the same point ALL the time. We get it, you were once given a job and you couldn’t handle it ... move on

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

Mush On The Beach wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm sure most posters on here know of examples in their own working lives where a fellow worker has been over promoted.
Superb at the job they were doing, recognised by the management and promoted to a more senior position where they have struggled and become a shadow of their former selves.
This has happened to Nigel, by his well earned, own success in the last 2 seasons he has been whisked in to a position in the PL for which he is not fully ready.
Like anyone placed in this position he needs an experienced person to lean on, to get a second opinion from, discuss tactics, share views on the pros and cons of players, etc.
Nigel has no one of that ilk, there is no one at SMS with PL experience.
I think Nigel could be one of the finest managers Saints have ever had and I do not want him to be sacked.
Surely bringing in an experenced old head to help Nigel makes sense?
What is there to lose by doing this?
Isn't it better to try changing things rather than hoping and praying that it will get better and that teams around us will lose?

I don’t men this in a rude way but have you been checked out for dementia lately .... you crap on about the same point ALL the time. We get it, you were once given a job and you couldn’t handle it ... move on

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

scooter75 wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
I'm sure most posters on here know of examples in their own working lives where a fellow worker has been over promoted.
Superb at the job they were doing, recognised by the management and promoted to a more senior position where they have struggled and become a shadow of their former selves.
This has happened to Nigel, by his well earned, own success in the last 2 seasons he has been whisked in to a position in the PL for which he is not fully ready.
Like anyone placed in this position he needs an experienced person to lean on, to get a second opinion from, discuss tactics, share views on the pros and cons of players, etc.
Nigel has no one of that ilk, there is no one at SMS with PL experience.
I think Nigel could be one of the finest managers Saints have ever had and I do not want him to be sacked.
Surely bringing in an experenced old head to help Nigel makes sense?
What is there to lose by doing this?
Isn't it better to try changing things rather than hoping and praying that it will get better and that teams around us will lose?

I don’t men this in a rude way but have you been checked out for dementia lately .... you crap on about the same point ALL the time. We get it, you were once given a job and you couldn’t handle it ... move on

Why do you constantly abuse people on here,what is your problem ?

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

So how many managers would we get through in a season using your system of sacking him if he has a bad run of 7 in a 100 games or so?
In a season of 40 odd games, no wins in 4ish means the sack!
I'm gob smacked at such a stupid post.

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

SaintMax wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

Exactly - refer to one of the responses received above. The article and thread is about NA being under pressure as a manager and possibly being sacked and people are complaining that we shouldnt be discussing it - heads in the sand.

Ted Rogers wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Why, suddenly as a Saints fan are you entitled to 'Demand success'?

And, if you want use stock market analogies here's one, 'The rich invest in time, the poor invest in money'

SaintMax wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

Exactly - refer to one of the responses received above. The article and thread is about NA being under pressure as a manager and possibly being sacked and people are complaining that we shouldnt be discussing it - heads in the sand.

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

Exactly - refer to one of the responses received above. The article and thread is about NA being under pressure as a manager and possibly being sacked and people are complaining that we shouldnt be discussing it - heads in the sand.

We have discussed it for two weeks now. How long do you want to discuss it for? Are you trying to create the self fulfilling prophecy like with Oxo going to Arsenal?

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

SaintMax wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

Exactly - refer to one of the responses received above. The article and thread is about NA being under pressure as a manager and possibly being sacked and people are complaining that we shouldnt be discussing it - heads in the sand.

We have discussed it for two weeks now. How long do you want to discuss it for? Are you trying to create the self fulfilling prophecy like with Oxo going to Arsenal?

Seedhouse, unfortunately its not me creating this prophecy its a run of bad form, the press and then the fans.
In which case you could make me stop talking about it, but if we keep losing then you will have to have a go at alot more people than just me.

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

There was no abuse in my reply telling you not to speak for me. You my friend came back with the abuse SO FICK OFF YOU FICKING ****.

up saints wrote:
think i have lost the plot on here not sure who support who all this fighting here whats it like at the match these days

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

There was no abuse in my reply telling you not to speak for me. You my friend came back with the abuse SO FICK OFF YOU FICKING ****.

Read your post again W***ER !!!

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

There was no abuse in my reply telling you not to speak for me. You my friend came back with the abuse SO FICK OFF YOU FICKING ****.

Read your post again W***ER !!!

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

There was no abuse in my reply telling you not to speak for me. You my friend came back with the abuse SO FICK OFF YOU FICKING ****.

Read your post again W***ER !!!

OK everyone can make a mistake ....................

....................

....................

..............your ficking father did, big time.

Nicole23 wrote:
At the end of the day who really cares, up or down, winning or losing. I would still rather be a Saint than a filthy, theiving, inbred skate any day.
We have the best team and fans on the south coast lets just enjoy the ride and sing our hearts out until the 90th minute even if we are 10-0 down.
There is plenty of time left, everyone needs to get behind the manager and the players.
That's what support means!!

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Simon Carter calls himself a sports editor. So rather than involving himself with personnel matters, why doesn't he impress us all with his knowledge of playing the game by telling us where he thinks Saints are going wrong technically. Alternatively, should he have alternative ambitions as a business editor, perhaps he would like to give his thoughts on why the Echo's readership is in decline. Please let Nigel Atkins and SFC to get on with developing the team without writing childish rubbish in the Echo. Atkins is a man of proven achievement and he is here to stay, so once again Simon Carter has no story.

Ted Rogers wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Why, suddenly as a Saints fan are you entitled to 'Demand success'?

And, if you want use stock market analogies here's one, 'The rich invest in time, the poor invest in money'

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Why, suddenly as a Saints fan are you entitled to 'Demand success'?

And, if you want use stock market analogies here's one, 'The rich invest in time, the poor invest in money'

Ill give you another stock market saying ”Risk comes from not knowing what you are doing.”

Does NA know what he is doing?

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
It is a fair article,even the critics have hoped N/A would turn things round but how much longer can this go on.
The next three games are crucial now,im not confident in the slightest but they are winnable so he has to get things right this time or he will lose the support of even his biggest fans.

Nigel will lose your support, but then i dont suppose you are his biggest fan!!. In future speak for yourself as i am quite capable of speaking for myself thank you.

In the article it states we have played 7 of the top teams in the league at present. Out of all those calling for Nigel to be cast aside ,including this great paper, did you honestly think we would be beating these teams in our first few games??. Get real , stick a cork up your arse stop squeaking and see where we are nearer Christmas. Dont tell me it will be too late, the year we went down W B A were bottom and those that can remember, THEY STAYED UP.

Why such a lairy reply bob the nob ?

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF TW@T

You like giving out abuse but cant take it if i call you bob the nob' which suits you just fine doesent it ?

There was no abuse in my reply telling you not to speak for me. You my friend came back with the abuse SO FICK OFF YOU FICKING ****.

Read your post again W***ER !!!

OK everyone can make a mistake ....................


....................


....................


..............your ficking father did, big time.

You are really living up to your name bob the knob , show yourself up by picking fights with your own fans, anyone reading your posts can see that.

scooter75 wrote:

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Simon Carter calls himself a sports editor. So rather than involving himself with personnel matters, why doesn't he impress us all with his knowledge of playing the game by telling us where he thinks Saints are going wrong technically. Alternatively, should he have alternative ambitions as a business editor, perhaps he would like to give his thoughts on why the Echo's readership is in decline. Please let Nigel Atkins and SFC to get on with developing the team without writing childish rubbish in the Echo. Atkins is a man of proven achievement and he is here to stay, so once again Simon Carter has no story.

Thats the 3rd post today calling Adkins Atkins, 3 fans who dont even know his name or the same person using 3 ids like hedge end nob does.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

You haven't addressed the point made several times that our most successful manager, Lawrie Mac, took a team 5th in the top flight and relegated them. Only later did the success come starting in 76. If it was your decision it sounds like he would have been sacked and we would not have won the cup, had 5 England captains on the pitch, not gone to the league cup final, finished second in the league, had european tours etc.

You are too short term in your thinking.

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
..got my point across methinks

I doubt it, there are the same few idiots constantly on here who think they own the site and try to bully people.

Exactly - refer to one of the responses received above. The article and thread is about NA being under pressure as a manager and possibly being sacked and people are complaining that we shouldnt be discussing it - heads in the sand.

We have discussed it for two weeks now. How long do you want to discuss it for? Are you trying to create the self fulfilling prophecy like with Oxo going to Arsenal?

Seedhouse, unfortunately its not me creating this prophecy its a run of bad form, the press and then the fans.
In which case you could make me stop talking about it, but if we keep losing then you will have to have a go at alot more people than just me.

and me !

Mush On The Beach wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

StPete wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
For those who say a manager shoudnt be sacked after 9 games and 7defeats, when would you sack a failing manager?

Too simplistic a view for me

Maybe you just dont wish to answer the question?

There is always a tipping point, I say we are already there. NC does not.

5 defeats that most Premiership teams will most likely experience this season:
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Arsenal
- Spurs
- Everton

1 defeat away from home against a team who have started well:
- West Ham

That makes 1 game we'd expect to win out of our losses:
- Wigan - Dominated the match but had no lucky break.

As for the Leeds match, NA has made it clear that he would be playing the second string in this cup. Don't care about this result.

Sack the manager? Ridiculous

Top reply St.Pete, and probably the feelings of most Saints fans and anyone that knows anything about football.
As far as I'm concerned we are 4 points off of what I'd thought we'd have, no time to panic, back the team, back the manager.

will you be happy if after 18 games we have amassed 8 points.the team and NA have to do better.

Instant Gratification, 2 words easy to say but not so easy to achieve.
We have climbed 2 leagues in 2 years from the brink and have come back fighting.
It’s a rollercoaster ride but I’ll give you 2 more words ...... ENJOY IT

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

You haven't addressed the point made several times that our most successful manager, Lawrie Mac, took a team 5th in the top flight and relegated them. Only later did the success come starting in 76. If it was your decision it sounds like he would have been sacked and we would not have won the cup, had 5 England captains on the pitch, not gone to the league cup final, finished second in the league, had european tours etc.

You are too short term in your thinking.

Not a short term thinker, just a pragmatic realist who believes in judging managers by results

Alicesdad wrote:
What an utter bucket of rambling incoherent wandering babble. This is the most insubstantial piece of pseudo-journalism I have seen on this subject. You simply have nothing to say.

Linking our current position to events that happened in 2004 is an exercise in rousing hysteria that is absolutley abysmal.

We should be looking to encourage the team, support the manager.

You might just as well look at the sequence of weather forecasts over the previous five days and see if we ever had bad results at the same time as a hurricane, coinciding with halloween and just before bonfire night..... Oh !! you metion bonfire night too, albeit misquoting the rhyme.

This paper won't be happy until they can report a sacking. When the results turn, and they will, I will remind these threads every single day of the crud that was pumped out over the last month.

St Retford wrote:
Doesn't Simon Carter look like a right jolly chap?

TEBOURBA wrote:
The Echo is stirring it again which does its reputation as a local, community paper, no good at all.
I expect there are Novembers in the past where Saints won 12 points, why not pick one of those?
What should happen now is for NC to publicly support NA by extending his Contract.
Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to help NA, there is not a single person at SMS with PL experience, and it shows on the pitch.
The coach would not be seen as a threat to NA as his contract would already have been extended.
NC to risk coming out in to the daylight and speak to the supporters who pay his wages, NC's silence is deafening.
If none of these things are done then I can only conclude that NC is either happy with current situation and is firmly in the 78% group of happy clappers, believing NA can do it all on his own, as the song goes -- The Sun will come out Tomorrow ---OR--- NC is with the 22% and NA's days are numbered.
The lack of any statement from NC promotes harmful speculation
and shows to me just what an uncaring, man and customer manager he really is.

Nicole23 wrote:
At the end of the day who really cares, up or down, winning or losing. I would still rather be a Saint than a filthy, theiving, inbred skate any day.
We have the best team and fans on the south coast lets just enjoy the ride and sing our hearts out until the 90th minute even if we are 10-0 down.
There is plenty of time left, everyone needs to get behind the manager and the players.
That's what support means!!

hedge end bob wrote:

Snebs wrote: Thought the observations made by the echo were good and fair. The SFC is a business and when a business starts to fail then things need to change, simple as that. The team is not good enough for the EPL, that is very clear. Without the fan base and folks turning up for games then your business will also fail. To the fans that went all the way up to Leeds you should ask for compensation as the performance you watched was a disgrace. We need an experienced Manager with the right support to stop the flood of goals against and with enough influence and friends in the business to attract the type of players we need to survive and we all know who that is.

We have already seen what droopy chops did t our club and then went straight back to the SKUNTS. Suggest you join them.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

You haven't addressed the point made several times that our most successful manager, Lawrie Mac, took a team 5th in the top flight and relegated them. Only later did the success come starting in 76. If it was your decision it sounds like he would have been sacked and we would not have won the cup, had 5 England captains on the pitch, not gone to the league cup final, finished second in the league, had european tours etc.

You are too short term in your thinking.

Not a short term thinker, just a pragmatic realist who believes in judging managers by results

Yes but over what time period?

What if they had no say in the transfer policy?

What about LM, address that point.

andysaints007 wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:
What an utter bucket of rambling incoherent wandering babble. This is the most insubstantial piece of pseudo-journalism I have seen on this subject. You simply have nothing to say.

Linking our current position to events that happened in 2004 is an exercise in rousing hysteria that is absolutley abysmal.

We should be looking to encourage the team, support the manager.

You might just as well look at the sequence of weather forecasts over the previous five days and see if we ever had bad results at the same time as a hurricane, coinciding with halloween and just before bonfire night..... Oh !! you metion bonfire night too, albeit misquoting the rhyme.

This paper won't be happy until they can report a sacking. When the results turn, and they will, I will remind these threads every single day of the crud that was pumped out over the last month.

Maybe you should get a job at the Echo and do it for them then if you are so wonderful at Journalism!! Do they now have to run all their articles past you now to get approval? Tw*T

Snebs wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

Snebs wrote: Thought the observations made by the echo were good and fair. The SFC is a business and when a business starts to fail then things need to change, simple as that. The team is not good enough for the EPL, that is very clear. Without the fan base and folks turning up for games then your business will also fail. To the fans that went all the way up to Leeds you should ask for compensation as the performance you watched was a disgrace. We need an experienced Manager with the right support to stop the flood of goals against and with enough influence and friends in the business to attract the type of players we need to survive and we all know who that is.

We have already seen what droopy chops did t our club and then went straight back to the SKUNTS. Suggest you join them.

why all these references to Pompy? get over it guys I was going to games at the dell and Fratton Park when most of you were'nt even an itch in your Dad's scrotums. Why does it matter? Pompy are in the same place as we were a few years ago. If they disapeared who would you curse out? not sure any of you would have the intellect to even consider finding an alternative. So Harry went to Pompy it was just another job, and frankly if he could come and rescue us from the drop I would welcome him with open arms. Same with Glenn Hoddle, now there is a very clever tactician who would ensure our safety. Yes NA has done us proud but the same as the players that didnt make the grade so it seems the Manager and coaching staff don't, so move on. As much as I don't support Pompey I would hate to see them disapear. One of the best Managers we ever had was Gordon Strachan and it would be great to see him back as well. So forget Pompy they won't be bothering us for a long while let's get out team sorted and back to winning.

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Why, suddenly as a Saints fan are you entitled to 'Demand success'?

And, if you want use stock market analogies here's one, 'The rich invest in time, the poor invest in money'

Ill give you another stock market saying ”Risk comes from not knowing what you are doing.”

Does NA know what he is doing?

SaintMax wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

So how many managers would we get through in a season using your system of sacking him if he has a bad run of 7 in a 100 games or so?
In a season of 40 odd games, no wins in 4ish means the sack!
I'm gob smacked at such a stupid post.

You idiot, where does it say in my post that I want to sick him? I stated that I would not stick with a Manager who took us down just because they had done a good job in the past.
If Rickie didnt score for the whole season would you keep slapping him on the back and putting him up front because he was leading scorer in the Championship?
I actually think you would..

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

So how many managers would we get through in a season using your system of sacking him if he has a bad run of 7 in a 100 games or so?
In a season of 40 odd games, no wins in 4ish means the sack!
I'm gob smacked at such a stupid post.

You idiot, where does it say in my post that I want to sick him? I stated that I would not stick with a Manager who took us down just because they had done a good job in the past.
If Rickie didnt score for the whole season would you keep slapping him on the back and putting him up front because he was leading scorer in the Championship?
I actually think you would..

So you revert to name calling because I question your post.
You clearly say in your post that he has a month or so to prove himself, that something fundamental has to change, where does it say in your post that you back him?
Typical short sighted, I bet that if the team had started off with a dozen wins and a bigger club came calling and he jumped ship, you would be the fist to slag the bloke off for leaving, questioning his loyalty.
In my view and this is what I'm hoping for, is that Saints are building for the future, long term future, not this season, not next season, but for the next 20 seasons, so how many points do you think we should have then oh wise one? if it's any more than 8 in total it's you thats the idiot.

Bingo from Sholing wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Simon Carter calls himself a sports editor. So rather than involving himself with personnel matters, why doesn't he impress us all with his knowledge of playing the game by telling us where he thinks Saints are going wrong technically. Alternatively, should he have alternative ambitions as a business editor, perhaps he would like to give his thoughts on why the Echo's readership is in decline. Please let Nigel Atkins and SFC to get on with developing the team without writing childish rubbish in the Echo. Atkins is a man of proven achievement and he is here to stay, so once again Simon Carter has no story.

Thats the 3rd post today calling Adkins Atkins, 3 fans who dont even know his name or the same person using 3 ids like hedge end nob does.

Was that nob with a "k"?

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past. Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success. Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that. Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

Why, suddenly as a Saints fan are you entitled to 'Demand success'?

And, if you want use stock market analogies here's one, 'The rich invest in time, the poor invest in money'

Ill give you another stock market saying ”Risk comes from not knowing what you are doing.”

Does NA know what he is doing?

We could go on for some time with this, but I for one don't have the appetite for such an exchange.

As I said before, I'll continue to support my club, based on reasonable expectations and sense. You can continue to be unhappy with your lot.

kent141 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

So how many managers would we get through in a season using your system of sacking him if he has a bad run of 7 in a 100 games or so?
In a season of 40 odd games, no wins in 4ish means the sack!
I'm gob smacked at such a stupid post.

You idiot, where does it say in my post that I want to sick him? I stated that I would not stick with a Manager who took us down just because they had done a good job in the past.
If Rickie didnt score for the whole season would you keep slapping him on the back and putting him up front because he was leading scorer in the Championship?
I actually think you would..

So you revert to name calling because I question your post.
You clearly say in your post that he has a month or so to prove himself, that something fundamental has to change, where does it say in your post that you back him?
Typical short sighted, I bet that if the team had started off with a dozen wins and a bigger club came calling and he jumped ship, you would be the fist to slag the bloke off for leaving, questioning his loyalty.
In my view and this is what I'm hoping for, is that Saints are building for the future, long term future, not this season, not next season, but for the next 20 seasons, so how many points do you think we should have then oh wise one? if it's any more than 8 in total it's you thats the idiot.

Building for the future is to improve not to get relegated to start all over again ?

andysaints007 wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:
What an utter bucket of rambling incoherent wandering babble. This is the most insubstantial piece of pseudo-journalism I have seen on this subject. You simply have nothing to say.

Linking our current position to events that happened in 2004 is an exercise in rousing hysteria that is absolutley abysmal.

We should be looking to encourage the team, support the manager.

You might just as well look at the sequence of weather forecasts over the previous five days and see if we ever had bad results at the same time as a hurricane, coinciding with halloween and just before bonfire night..... Oh !! you metion bonfire night too, albeit misquoting the rhyme.

This paper won't be happy until they can report a sacking. When the results turn, and they will, I will remind these threads every single day of the crud that was pumped out over the last month.

Maybe you should get a job at the Echo and do it for them then if you are so wonderful at Journalism!! Do they now have to run all their articles past you now to get approval? Tw*T

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

You haven't addressed the point made several times that our most successful manager, Lawrie Mac, took a team 5th in the top flight and relegated them. Only later did the success come starting in 76. If it was your decision it sounds like he would have been sacked and we would not have won the cup, had 5 England captains on the pitch, not gone to the league cup final, finished second in the league, had european tours etc.

You are too short term in your thinking.

Not a short term thinker, just a pragmatic realist who believes in judging managers by results

Yes but over what time period?

What if they had no say in the transfer policy?

What about LM, address that point.

I think after spendng £35m, 25% of the way through a season is long enough to make a reasonable decision on the position of the manager.

This is Premier League, a very tough and unforegiving league. Difficult to get into and very easy to be kicked out of.


Regards LM (isnt hindsight a wonderful gift) he would have been sacked and as its highly subjective whose to say his replacement would have achieved the same otr greatre success. If's, but's and may be's of the 1970's are not going help in this situation

Confucious wrote:
Good ho! Thought I'd be able to rely on the Echo for an upbeat and heartening start to the day. A relief that because I dreamt last night, that after being shipwrecked, a bunch of us were with Nigel in mid Atlantic on a lifeboat. A plane flew over and dropped a newspaper which was full of stories about starvation, thirst and hypothermia - plus a dreadfull weather forecast. The newspaper headline ran: "Will lost Saints fans eat Nigel?" Anyhow 78% of us decided against it. Nonetheless I guess it'll be another cheery day on here.

saintshorse101 wrote:
can all you moaners and groaners tell me where you thought we would be in the league at this point, and how many points you thought we would have? i really would love to know!

hedge end bob wrote:

Nicole23 wrote:
At the end of the day who really cares, up or down, winning or losing. I would still rather be a Saint than a filthy, theiving, inbred skate any day.
We have the best team and fans on the south coast lets just enjoy the ride and sing our hearts out until the 90th minute even if we are 10-0 down.
There is plenty of time left, everyone needs to get behind the manager and the players.
That's what support means!!

Agree.

kent141 wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Im gob smacked at people saying they would prefer to stay with NA and go down, than sack him for someone else. No one man is bigger than our club, I dont care how good they have been in the past.
Something fundamental has to change, and the happy clappers are getting quieter by the day shouting down people who demand success.
Im not saying that means Nigel has to go now, as I still believe he has a month or so to prove himself, but if we are sat in the middle of November with two more losses under our belt something will change - NC will ensure that.
Would NC leave his money in shares that were dropping like a stone that once looked great, and not try to change his fortune?

So how many managers would we get through in a season using your system of sacking him if he has a bad run of 7 in a 100 games or so?
In a season of 40 odd games, no wins in 4ish means the sack!
I'm gob smacked at such a stupid post.

You idiot, where does it say in my post that I want to sick him? I stated that I would not stick with a Manager who took us down just because they had done a good job in the past.
If Rickie didnt score for the whole season would you keep slapping him on the back and putting him up front because he was leading scorer in the Championship?
I actually think you would..

So you revert to name calling because I question your post.
You clearly say in your post that he has a month or so to prove himself, that something fundamental has to change, where does it say in your post that you back him?
Typical short sighted, I bet that if the team had started off with a dozen wins and a bigger club came calling and he jumped ship, you would be the fist to slag the bloke off for leaving, questioning his loyalty.
In my view and this is what I'm hoping for, is that Saints are building for the future, long term future, not this season, not next season, but for the next 20 seasons, so how many points do you think we should have then oh wise one? if it's any more than 8 in total it's you thats the idiot.

Building for the future is to improve not to get relegated to start all over again ?

saintshorse101 wrote:
can all you moaners and groaners tell me where you thought we would be in the league at this point, and how many points you thought we would have? i really would love to know!

PTID1898 wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

Nicole23 wrote: At the end of the day who really cares, up or down, winning or losing. I would still rather be a Saint than a filthy, theiving, inbred skate any day. We have the best team and fans on the south coast lets just enjoy the ride and sing our hearts out until the 90th minute even if we are 10-0 down. There is plenty of time left, everyone needs to get behind the manager and the players. That's what support means!!

Agree.

But there are two problems here.... 1. You never sing 2. you never stay till the 90th minute. So how are you going to achieve these two things when you never do the two things you have mentioned dduuuhhhhh!!!!!!!PUP

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

SaintAsh1964 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote: @ Storm Shadow There are often many opinions that are based on fact. These opinions are more than often subjective based on the individual perception of these facts. My opinion is based on facts surrounding the quality of opposition in our opening games and measuring the quality of opposition that the teams surrounding us in the league have faced in the same period. My conclusion (opinion) is that we have a team and a manager that are both very well equipped to survive in this great league. Ergo I cannot agree with you that we have a failing manager. I'm sorry if this is not the answer that you really want. I'm sure you want everyone to climb aboard with you and the Echo and join in with this continued short-sighted, deafeatist and pessimistic nonsense. I choose to remain positive, support my team, support my manager and look forward to Southampton Football Club achieving the plans set out by the Chairman when we were rescued from GENUINE trouble.

Ted never for one minute did I expect you to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But please inform me how you would quantify failure in a football league manager. and something I posted yesterday for you to mull over Storm Shadow says... 3:37pm Wed 31 Oct 12 Saints chairman Nicola Cortese : "From the outset we have made clear that our plan is to get into the Premier League and compete effectively in that division." .....16 April 2010”

I think win % is a good barometer to quantify failure in a football manager. So here we are: Alex Ferguson 58% Arsene Wenger 57% Nigel Adkins 57% David Moyes 44% Harry Redknapp 40% Michael Appleton 26% Anyone of the top three will do me fine for managing our great and honest club.

Interesting, now recalculate using only Premiership data and see if the results are the same.

Only if you recalculate using Championship and League 1 data, see stupid it works both ways.

Well as Wenger, Ferguson have never managed a team in the lower leagues, Moyes (hasnt since March 2002) Redknapp (since December 2005) what would be the point of using such data. It has no meaningful input into the of NA, but then again I guess your use to making meaningless comments on the basis of your last one. Just the same for NA using data collected from his time at Bagnor in the 1990's has no revelence at all. But if it makes you happy go ahead and calculate, I wait with with bated breath for your results.

You were presented with a 'simple' answer to your question using definitive statistical fact. Alas, this 'simple' answer is not the one you wanted to hear, so you then start asking for a reformation of the facts in order to back up your 'opinion'

So in real terms, you should agree that as a football manager Nigel Adkins, far from being a failure, is more likely one of the best this country has.
So instead of clogging up a thread with your nonsense go and support your own club before you start having to go to away matches at Gang Warily.

Prehaps if you collated the correct figures regarding win percentages you may have a valid point, but your calculations are incorrect much the same as your arguement.

NA is failing, I know it you know it and the rest of board know it. It has to be turned around, I dont think he is capable of doing it and the longer we wait the more difficult the job for the next manager.

So someone doesnt agree with you, they cant be a saints fan. That is a poor case for proving your point, which suggets you are runnings out of excuses.

You haven't addressed the point made several times that our most successful manager, Lawrie Mac, took a team 5th in the top flight and relegated them. Only later did the success come starting in 76. If it was your decision it sounds like he would have been sacked and we would not have won the cup, had 5 England captains on the pitch, not gone to the league cup final, finished second in the league, had european tours etc.

You are too short term in your thinking.

Not a short term thinker, just a pragmatic realist who believes in judging managers by results

Yes but over what time period?

What if they had no say in the transfer policy?

What about LM, address that point.

I think after spendng £35m, 25% of the way through a season is long enough to make a reasonable decision on the position of the manager.

This is Premier League, a very tough and unforegiving league. Difficult to get into and very easy to be kicked out of.


Regards LM (isnt hindsight a wonderful gift) he would have been sacked and as its highly subjective whose to say his replacement would have achieved the same otr greatre success. If's, but's and may be's of the 1970's are not going help in this situation

The 1970's and the current Prem make no difference when discussing recruitment, motivation and training of your management team.

What if NC made the transfer decisions and not NA?

kent141 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote: can all you moaners and groaners tell me where you thought we would be in the league at this point, and how many points you thought we would have? i really would love to know!

More than 4 .

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Storm Shadow wrote:
Successful Pemiership managers have strong personalities with independant thought and control of the transfer policy.

If as Seedhouse suggests NC would not want these qualities in a Saints manager, then what?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Snebs wrote:

hedge end bob wrote:

Snebs wrote: Thought the observations made by the echo were good and fair. The SFC is a business and when a business starts to fail then things need to change, simple as that. The team is not good enough for the EPL, that is very clear. Without the fan base and folks turning up for games then your business will also fail. To the fans that went all the way up to Leeds you should ask for compensation as the performance you watched was a disgrace. We need an experienced Manager with the right support to stop the flood of goals against and with enough influence and friends in the business to attract the type of players we need to survive and we all know who that is.

We have already seen what droopy chops did t our club and then went straight back to the SKUNTS. Suggest you join them.

why all these references to Pompy? get over it guys I was going to games at the dell and Fratton Park when most of you were'nt even an itch in your Dad's scrotums. Why does it matter? Pompy are in the same place as we were a few years ago. If they disapeared who would you curse out? not sure any of you would have the intellect to even consider finding an alternative. So Harry went to Pompy it was just another job, and frankly if he could come and rescue us from the drop I would welcome him with open arms. Same with Glenn Hoddle, now there is a very clever tactician who would ensure our safety. Yes NA has done us proud but the same as the players that didnt make the grade so it seems the Manager and coaching staff don't, so move on. As much as I don't support Pompey I would hate to see them disapear. One of the best Managers we ever had was Gordon Strachan and it would be great to see him back as well. So forget Pompy they won't be bothering us for a long while let's get out team sorted and back to winning.

What if we have Strachan back but we still drop what then? Sack him and appoint Hoddle? What if he doesn't get us back up? Sack him? I think we've tried the management merry go round. Look at our history, our best years were when we had stable management and our worst were when we kept chopping and changing. Still, might as well make the mistakes of the past again eh?

Force14 wrote:
Ha Ha Ha.....Ha , The Stains are having a civil war ....luv it ....PUP

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:
Successful Pemiership managers have strong personalities with independant thought and control of the transfer policy.

If as Seedhouse suggests NC would not want these qualities in a Saints manager, then what?

Must recite poetry and have a comical suntan and keep saying " you have to win football matches "

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

slugger wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

way way off , nice try .

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

Storm Shadow wrote:

slugger wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

way way off , nice try .

http://www.transferm

arkt.co.uk/en/statis

tiken/wettbewerbe/tr

ansfers.html

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

saintshorse101 wrote:

kent141 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote: can all you moaners and groaners tell me where you thought we would be in the league at this point, and how many points you thought we would have? i really would love to know!

More than 4 .

again 141 you are unable to answer a simple question! so i ask again. if "more than 4" how many? and which games would we have got the points from? simple questions, simple answers!

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Total guff from a total idiot, but keep saying it and even you will believe it yourself....

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

the stench is getting stronger , how do you live with yourself ?

Force14 wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

What a waste of money....not one player who could get in Pompeys team on ability, all Div 2 players....luv it.

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

the stench is getting stronger , how do you live with yourself ?

slugger read my post under adkins back under pressure posted at 10.46 am wednesday just for you and dado

slugger wrote:

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

the stench is getting stronger , how do you live with yourself ?

slugger read my post under adkins back under pressure posted at 10.46 am wednesday just for you and dado

it's history , can't be bothered .

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

the stench is getting stronger , how do you live with yourself ?

slugger read my post under adkins back under pressure posted at 10.46 am wednesday just for you and dado

it's history , can't be bothered .

at least you replied

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Total guff from a total idiot, but keep saying it and even you will believe it yourself....

You and I both know it's the truth. It's the fundamental difference between our two clubs. Decency.

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

slugger wrote:

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

up saints wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:
that stench is still here then ........... since when was a supporter a "happy clapper" ?

Only if your a Stain.....Plastic happy clapping for 65 minutes then head for the exits moaning about Sadkins....PUP

the stench is getting stronger , how do you live with yourself ?

slugger read my post under adkins back under pressure posted at 10.46 am wednesday just for you and dado

it's history , can't be bothered .

at least you replied

couldn't resist so i had a peek ......... iv'e no problem with genuine disgruntled saints fans (i know a few) , it's the wums that i'm after .

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Total guff from a total idiot, but keep saying it and even you will believe it yourself....

You and I both know it's the truth. It's the fundamental difference between our two clubs. Decency.

You do try hard but lets face it...you are a total pratt who has spent about 50000 hours boring everyone rigid on the news site........

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

SaintMax wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

kent141 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote: can all you moaners and groaners tell me where you thought we would be in the league at this point, and how many points you thought we would have? i really would love to know!

More than 4 .

again 141 you are unable to answer a simple question! so i ask again. if "more than 4" how many? and which games would we have got the points from? simple questions, simple answers!

Man U game should have been at least drawn, we were caught cold by Wigan, at least a draw there so and if we had not played so poorly in the first half v spurs, again we could have drawn. I'd take 7 points, and be three places higher. Simple, even for you.. Though you are simply happy just clapping and slapping everyone on the back right?

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Total guff from a total idiot, but keep saying it and even you will believe it yourself....

You and I both know it's the truth. It's the fundamental difference between our two clubs. Decency.

You do try hard but lets face it...you are a total pratt who has spent about 50000 hours boring everyone rigid on the news site........

I'd say you've got one on there Seed...reel it in! :o)

Skating on thin ice wrote:
What really makes me laugh is the people on here who say that it doesn't matter that you are stuck in the relegation zone at this stage of the season because so many of your defeats have been against teams at the top of the league. Aren't you muddling cause and effect here? One of the reasons these teams are in the top half of the table in this early stage is that they have all had an easy game against you with 3 points gifted. Look at it the other way round. Who are the only team you have beaten so far? Aston Villa, and they are a team who are suffering their worst start to a season in 25 years. Enough said.

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

If he has a weight problem its nothing to laugh at, grow up !

Skating on thin ice wrote:
What really makes me laugh is the people on here who say that it doesn't matter that you are stuck in the relegation zone at this stage of the season because so many of your defeats have been against teams at the top of the league. Aren't you muddling cause and effect here? One of the reasons these teams are in the top half of the table in this early stage is that they have all had an easy game against you with 3 points gifted. Look at it the other way round. Who are the only team you have beaten so far? Aston Villa, and they are a team who are suffering their worst start to a season in 25 years. Enough said.

Force14 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Force14 wrote:
Cant sell your West Brom tickets then, thats a surprise........not

I love away games but I pick the ones that aren't televised. I know as a thick skunt you won't get the logic of that.

Silly to try and argue over number of away fans, we trounce you home and away.

You will now give it oh our fans are more passionate than yours. Both clubs have a hard core passionate support BUT we also have the families, corporate, jcl's etc which is why our club is financially viable and yours isn't. Your thugs create the passion but keep decent people away which is why you've had so many dodgy owners, they knew the fans had no morals and wouldn't care they were thieves and gun runners. That's why your demise IS the fault of the fans.

Total guff from a total idiot, but keep saying it and even you will believe it yourself....

You and I both know it's the truth. It's the fundamental difference between our two clubs. Decency.

You do try hard but lets face it...you are a total pratt who has spent about 50000 hours boring everyone rigid on the news site........

I'd say you've got one on there Seed...reel it in! :o)

Ha ha Ha .......reel it in ;0)

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

If he has a weight problem its nothing to laugh at, grow up !

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

If he has a weight problem its nothing to laugh at, grow up !

SaintJD wrote:

Bingo from Sholing wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Simon Carter calls himself a sports editor. So rather than involving himself with personnel matters, why doesn't he impress us all with his knowledge of playing the game by telling us where he thinks Saints are going wrong technically. Alternatively, should he have alternative ambitions as a business editor, perhaps he would like to give his thoughts on why the Echo's readership is in decline. Please let Nigel Atkins and SFC to get on with developing the team without writing childish rubbish in the Echo. Atkins is a man of proven achievement and he is here to stay, so once again Simon Carter has no story.

Thats the 3rd post today calling Adkins Atkins, 3 fans who dont even know his name or the same person using 3 ids like hedge end nob does.

Was that nob with a "k"?

What cracks me up about people on here is that many clearly haven't read the article. If you read it you will see that the Echo is, if anything, suggesting that calls for NA's head are way off the mark. The report is far from stirring things - it is a positive, balanced report based on statistics and facts.

Out of interest Bingo, while slagging Simon Carter's sporting background in relation to his position, ironically you are forgetting that our manager was a physio and Jose Mourinho was an interpreter. This proves you don't have to have great prowess playing the game to manage, have a valid opinion or indeed write about football.

Good balanced reporting Echo, well done, certainly puts things into perspective nicely.

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

scooter75 wrote:
Is this still a football forum tonight or has it been taken over by idiots.

ghk230473 wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
Is this still a football forum tonight or has it been taken over by idiots.

Well you can thank the 3 monkies for that, they went on the news site, now ours had been turned into a fish farm.

Bill, slug, seedless take your mates back to the news site to continue your flirting!

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

scooter75 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

I think he may be talking about the old top boy Norman, had a beer with him a few weeks ago and to be honest he has lost the plot and given up football and his only interest is his ferrets now..sad really.

scooter75 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

I think he may be talking about the old top boy Norman, had a beer with him a few weeks ago and to be honest he has lost the plot and given up football and his only interest is his ferrets now..sad really.

slugger wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

I think he may be talking about the old top boy Norman, had a beer with him a few weeks ago and to be honest he has lost the plot and given up football and his only interest is his ferrets now..sad really.

could be the same fella , northam norman comes from millbrook , he told me .

scooter75 wrote:

slugger wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

I think he may be talking about the old top boy Norman, had a beer with him a few weeks ago and to be honest he has lost the plot and given up football and his only interest is his ferrets now..sad really.

could be the same fella , northam norman comes from millbrook , he told me .

No wrong bloke, although his brother lives in millbrook, i know Norms cousin Kev who has a ferett as well,nice bloke .

scooter75 wrote:

slugger wrote:

scooter75 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

kent141 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

Force14 wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Force14 wrote:

slugger wrote:

Force14 wrote:

More Glory wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Was Jimmy Savile a skate? He wore a shell suit. And he fiddled. And he lied. Had to be.

Well. You want to be taken seriously, and then you come up with stuff like this. mmh

Seed isent too bright if you hadent noticed ....

he can spell though.

Says another pratt who bores everyone on the news.....But has got a amusing name at least which matches his face no doubt.

says the bell end thats boring the sh!t out of everyone on here.

let me guess you you are on the news site.....hmmmmmm, nope no one that stupid. Wheel out baddersly bill, but fat bearded lump who drinks rel ale and gets stuck in turnstiles....

Oh look.....i was right ....Luv it...PUP

Leave old chunky Bill alone you thug, he has some tough mates, slugger and the top boy Northam Norman so watch your step Force......

Firstly, who's Norman. Secondly, how did i suddenly become a real ale addict...and thirdly...wtf did i get a beard from so sudden. Ffs, I.ll be labelled as overweight next. I blame this on Echo reporting!!! :o)

I think he may be talking about the old top boy Norman, had a beer with him a few weeks ago and to be honest he has lost the plot and given up football and his only interest is his ferrets now..sad really.

could be the same fella , northam norman comes from millbrook , he told me .

No wrong bloke, although his brother lives in millbrook, i know Norms cousin Kev who has a ferett as well,nice bloke .

scooter75 wrote:
Norms cousin Kev called his ferett big bird after Norms girlfriend bigbird, got confusing when i went to a party at kevs and he said give bigbird a stroke which i did for a hour or so and it went pearshaped when his brother Norman the boxer who gets confused with Norman the doorman came in and went mental and put me in hospital. But we all laugh about it now.

slugger wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
Norms cousin Kev called his ferett big bird after Norms girlfriend bigbird, got confusing when i went to a party at kevs and he said give bigbird a stroke which i did for a hour or so and it went pearshaped when his brother Norman the boxer who gets confused with Norman the doorman came in and went mental and put me in hospital. But we all laugh about it now.

i also know norman the doorman , i fitted his boiler but never dared feel his bird !

scooter75 wrote:

slugger wrote:

scooter75 wrote:
Norms cousin Kev called his ferett big bird after Norms girlfriend bigbird, got confusing when i went to a party at kevs and he said give bigbird a stroke which i did for a hour or so and it went pearshaped when his brother Norman the boxer who gets confused with Norman the doorman came in and went mental and put me in hospital. But we all laugh about it now.

i also know norman the doorman , i fitted his boiler but never dared feel his bird !

Your lucky , Doorman Normans bird is a he/she from Bangkok but we dont laugh at him...only behind his back of course. Small world, im off for a few pints now !!

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

angus mc coatup wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

poopeysh!tfuckskunt

slugger wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

fact 5 and cure 5 are a bit odd , are you saying "to do nothing til jan is not an option" , followed by "fully review the squad in jan" ............. so what option do we have but to wait til jan ?

TEBOURBA wrote:
At times I think I should stop posting here.
I can't bear my wise words to be criticised by mindless twits whose only words are skunts, poopey, sh*t, f*ck and alike who obviously do not have the brains to propose anything sensible and constructive to help change Saints' fortunes.
Do not despair, I will keep posting in the sure and certain belief that my words of wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Fact 1 :- it would be folly to sack NA, to do so would result in tremendous disruption to the Club.
Fact 2:- NA is struggling, not just my view, just look at the results and the goals against
Fact 3:- There is no one at SMS with PL experience
Fact 4:- Cortese has no skills in managing employees, customers and the media, the only skill he may have is bean counting
Fact 5:- The £35m ,or whatever the figure, spent on transfers, was largely wasted, new players have failed to live up to their hype and are no better than what we already had on the books e.g. KD
Fact 5:- To do nothing and wait for the Jan transfer window is not an option, if results from now up until the end of the year are the same as the results to date Saints won't have a snowball's chance in hell of avoiding relegation
Fact 6 :- Happy Clappers who say it would be OK for Saints to be relegated with NA and come again are deluded, if Saints are relegated they could spend donkey's years in the wilderness and may even risk, like many other PL relegated teams, continuing in free fall.
Cure 1 :- Don't sack NA, he has 78% support, instead give him a vote of confidence, extend his contract and end the speculation about his future which must be demoralising for everyone associated with the Club
Cure 2&3 :- Immediately bring in an experienced PL coach to assist NA in finding his feet in the PL
Cure 4 :- Cortese to end his war with the media, publicly support NA, risk coming out in the light of day and commence a dialogue with the media and fans
Cure 5 :- Fully review the squad in January, learn from transfer errors, get rid of the dross and sign quality players
Cure 6 :- For God's sake NC and NA should stop sitting on their hands and do something positive -- to avoid the drop --- to do nothing is accepting the status quo and will end in relegation.
These are the constructive views of a true Saints supporter, others may disagree and trust in the power of prayer, prayer may very occasionally work, but I, probably along with millions of others have prayed for a lottery win for the past 20+ years and am still waiting.
There is no such thing as luck, people make their own luck, by their own actions, Saints can only improve their own lot by taking positive action now.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Force14 wrote:
Todays latest new manager odds.

4/6 Rusty the dancing Chimp
3/1 Glen Hoddle
4/1 Rafa Benitez
8/1 Coco the Clown
12/1 Michael Appleton
14/1 Dave Jones
16/1 Harry Redknapp
100/1 Sir Alex Ferguson

slugger wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

slugger wrote:

Storm Shadow wrote:

John Gillham wrote:
Can someone give me a breakdown of this £35 million that is getting put about for this year's expenditure? I can only get it to just over £20 million.

We spent £33.4m in the last transfer window ( Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 2.816.000 - Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham 2.772.000 - Steven Davis Rangers 880.000 - Jay Rodriguez Burnley 7.612.000 - Gastón Ramírez FC Bologna 13.376.000 - Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Bern 3.520.000 - Maya Yoshida VVV-Venlo 2.464.000 ).

Not quiet £35m but near enough.

way way off , nice try .

http://www.transferm


arkt.co.uk/en/statis


tiken/wettbewerbe/tr


ansfers.html

stand corrected , although i dont't think yoshida , gazaniga or clyne were that much ...... they were mainly undisclosed as i remember .