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Southampton will not be part of England's 2018 FIFA World Cup bid


SOUTHAMPTON’S ambitious last minute bid to bring the World Cup football to the south looks to have ended.

The Football Association has told the Daily Echo there is “no chance” of the England 2018 bid team allowing the city to join the race.

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After Portsmouth dramatically pulled out of the running last week, it was thought Southampton might be allowed to submit a late bid to plug a vast geographic gap between London, Bristol and Plymouth without a possible venue.

The leader of Portsmouth City Council, Gerald Vernon- Jackson, said he believed the FA would be keen to hear from Southampton, now his city was no longer in the running.

However, the England bid team – currently in Cape Town for today’s draw for the group stage of the 2010 World Cup – have now dashed that possibility.

A spokesman said the deadline had long since passed, and, despite Portsmouth pulling out, there was “no chance” of Southampton being allowed in.

He added that the tendering process had been long and competitive and to let the city in now would be impossible.

The news will come as a huge blow to the council, club and fans who were eager to see some of the globe’s best footballing talent playing at St Mary’s.

The deadline for expressing an interest in the possibility of being a host city was just two days after Markus Liebherr bought Saints, back in July.

Prior to that, the very existence of the club had been in doubt, meaning it was impossible for any bid to be launched by the council.

However, the council claimed they had never been invited to submit a bid by the South East England Development Agency (Seeda), who instead opted for Milton Keynes and Portsmouth.

In September, Nicola Cortese, the executive chairman of Southampton Football Club, said he would like St Mary’s to host World Cup football.

Seeda then lobbied the FA who told the club and council that there was no chance of them being allowed in – despite the deadline for submitting finalised bids not being until late November.

An Internet campaign, headed by Saints fan David Barrett, had collected more than 2,500 members in less than a week, with a view to showing the FA the level of support for a Southampton bid.

St Mary’s Stadium is bigger than six of the venues currently on the shortlist – some of which are still very much in the planning stages. It also meets the highest requirements as laid out by European football’s governing body UEFA.

Despite that, the final ten venues will be chosen on December 16, without Southampton being on the shortlist.

World football governing body FIFA will decide if England will host either the 2018 or 2022 World Cups in December next year.

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Comments(59)

The Moog says...
10:03am Fri 4 Dec 09

Was always unlikely and don't think the England bid will be successful anyway. 2022 anyone?

Sally Hamilton TT says...
10:04am Fri 4 Dec 09

What a surprise the football league have said that.. they dont like us plain and simple. I want us even more to get promoted to the championship now because that really will be 2 fingers up to the men that know nothing about football, and the feeling of pure passion you get watching your team play. See you all at Walsall! Am I 1st?

Jammy Donut says...
10:04am Fri 4 Dec 09

I'm suicidal

Sally Hamilton TT says...
10:04am Fri 4 Dec 09

lol, doh! Note to self, must type quicker in future!

Dorssaints says...
10:08am Fri 4 Dec 09

So who are the southern grounds, or is it only London in the South?

slugger says...
10:10am Fri 4 Dec 09

Dorssaints wrote:
So who are the southern grounds, or is it only London in the South?
plymouth i think.

Sally Hamilton TT says...
10:13am Fri 4 Dec 09

DONT YOU JUST LOVE READING THE HEADLINE..."POMPEY FAIL TO PAY THE PLAYERS WAGES FOR A SECOND TIME!"

Andy Locks Heath says...
10:13am Fri 4 Dec 09

One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans.
(Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.

Sainty saint saint says...
10:17am Fri 4 Dec 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans. (Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
I agree with you... but I really can't work out why Saints can't bid (other than it being past deadline I'm guessing).

But to be fair, I really can't think of another team in the South with the facilities Saints have - surely the FA are shooting themselves in the foot?


Sally Hamilton TT says...
10:18am Fri 4 Dec 09

Apologies Andy, I kinda see what you mean! I withdraw that comment

normsted says...
10:20am Fri 4 Dec 09

Sally Hamilton TT wrote:
What a surprise the football league have said that.. they dont like us plain and simple. I want us even more to get promoted to the championship now because that really will be 2 fingers up to the men that know nothing about football, and the feeling of pure passion you get watching your team play. See you all at Walsall! Am I 1st?
Yep you are the first to write a great post today.
I cant think of any better incentive to drive on the team to acheive this season,great thought,we get in the play-offs and stick 2 fingers up in the direction of the football league.
Perhaps there should be a black sheep on the badge somewhere.

UTS says...
10:43am Fri 4 Dec 09

"Huge blow" ???? Where

This reeks of desperate sensationlist journalism. A total non story


St.David says...
10:46am Fri 4 Dec 09

What is it with the football league?? It seemed at times during our nightmare in administration that they were happy we were in such trouble and were putting as many barriers in place to make an example of us. . . .Firmly believe if Marcus and his team had not stepped in we would be history now. . So a late bid to stage world cup games was a non starter. . And what is happening down the road?. . . Once again Pompey have become an amature club with their players playing for free!!. . Just seems like different rules apply!! Lets see them in the Championship next year!!! COYRs. .

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...
10:50am Fri 4 Dec 09

We already have the infrastructure in place. If a successful bid enables Plymouth or Bristol City to develop a similar infrastructure isn't that good for football?

Just so long as our fishy friends do not benefit in any way I am very pleased.

Sulaiman Al Fahim says...
10:55am Fri 4 Dec 09

UTS wrote:
"Huge blow" ???? Where This reeks of desperate sensationlist journalism. A total non story
On the contrary, this is very much a news story.

With due respect, it is clear you have a personal vendetta against the Southern Daily Echo, judging by your posts which only ever attack their stories - which most of us are perfectly satisfied with.

If you don't wish to discuss the matters at hand, then please do not comment just to launch unnecessary and pointless attacks.

AdrianSmith says...
10:58am Fri 4 Dec 09

UTS wrote:
"Huge blow" ???? Where This reeks of desperate sensationlist journalism. A total non story
What a gimp. Must be a bitter Pompey fan.

puppy saint says...
11:12am Fri 4 Dec 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans. (Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
psychologically speaking......what does it mean if someone is obsessed with pies?

Sainty saint saint says...
11:13am Fri 4 Dec 09

St.David wrote:
What is it with the football league?? It seemed at times during our nightmare in administration that they were happy we were in such trouble and were putting as many barriers in place to make an example of us. . . .Firmly believe if Marcus and his team had not stepped in we would be history now. . So a late bid to stage world cup games was a non starter. . And what is happening down the road?. . . Once again Pompey have become an amature club with their players playing for free!!. . Just seems like different rules apply!! Lets see them in the Championship next year!!! COYRs. .
Different rules apply because the Football League and the Premier League are two distinct and separate businesses.

Football League = bunch of self-righteous idiots
Premier League = bunch of self-righteous idiots that are completely obsessed with preserving the 'successful' image of the business and are thus willing to do anything to prevent teams entering administration

The Moog says...
11:18am Fri 4 Dec 09

St.David wrote:
What is it with the football league?? It seemed at times during our nightmare in administration that they were happy we were in such trouble and were putting as many barriers in place to make an example of us. . . .Firmly believe if Marcus and his team had not stepped in we would be history now. . So a late bid to stage world cup games was a non starter. . And what is happening down the road?. . . Once again Pompey have become an amature club with their players playing for free!!. . Just seems like different rules apply!! Lets see them in the Championship next year!!! COYRs. .
We missed the deadline and the FA have stuck by it - simple as that. I doubt there is any vendetta in there and certainly no reason for anyone to feel sorry for themselves or take it personally. Maybe if the FA had bent their own rules would all other clubs be chuntering 'bloody Saints, FA favourites'?
As for down the road, I doubt that few skates would agree that there are different rules applying in their favour. In fact, they are screaming foul play in much the same manner.

There is no conspiracy here, just people looking for someone to blame when things don't go their way.


Sainty saint saint says...
11:19am Fri 4 Dec 09

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne wrote:
We already have the infrastructure in place. If a successful bid enables Plymouth or Bristol City to develop a similar infrastructure isn't that good for football? Just so long as our fishy friends do not benefit in any way I am very pleased.
I kind of see what you mean - but can these clubs afford to develop their infrastructure? If I was the FA I'd be worried about choosing a stadium that will require heavy investment by the club, which the club may not be able to afford - thus perpetuating the already fragile state of football finances in this country.

I'd be more inclined to allow a team with (a) infrastructure already in place, and (b) potentially vast finances from a wealthy owner to cover any additional costs, to bid for being part of the World Cup.

As Saints fans we've all seen the pitfalls of spending lots of money on a new stadium only for it to backfire!

Anyway, no harm in letting Saints BID for it, if another club gets chosen overall, then that's fair enough.

Barney123 says...
11:21am Fri 4 Dec 09

It was never going to suitable for the City anyway - the town doesn't have the infrastructure for such an event, and saints could do with reducing the capacity of the ground, not expanding it by 75%!

StPete says...
11:30am Fri 4 Dec 09

UTS wrote:
"Huge blow" ???? Where

This reeks of desperate sensationlist journalism. A total non story

Grumpy old git

Ken Hutchinson says...
11:31am Fri 4 Dec 09

I think there is a saying "you can't miss something which you never had"....It's a shame that Southampton will miss out if the bid for 2018 is successful but I'm not looking to blame any particular organisation or body - the City/Club were not there at the outset.

southy says...
11:44am Fri 4 Dec 09

Sally Hamilton TT wrote:
What a surprise the football league have said that.. they dont like us plain and simple. I want us even more to get promoted to the championship now because that really will be 2 fingers up to the men that know nothing about football, and the feeling of pure passion you get watching your team play. See you all at Walsall! Am I 1st?
its more off a case, even if southampton did make the dead line, it would still be very unlikely to be pick, has with plymouth and bristol there grounds are not just large enough, nore will would southampton even after they had extended the grounds.
it will all come down to the largest 16 grounds, its all about how much money will be taken to off set the cost of hosting the world cup.

southy says...
11:48am Fri 4 Dec 09

Sulaiman Al Fahim wrote:
UTS wrote:
"Huge blow" ???? Where This reeks of desperate sensationlist journalism. A total non story
On the contrary, this is very much a news story.

With due respect, it is clear you have a personal vendetta against the Southern Daily Echo, judging by your posts which only ever attack their stories - which most of us are perfectly satisfied with.

If you don't wish to discuss the matters at hand, then please do not comment just to launch unnecessary and pointless attacks.
Sulaiman Al Fahim uts is one off the known edl supporters, and what it is, the echo will not say any thing good about that group. vendetta you be spot on. and he not the only one.

St.David says...
12:15pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Just heard that Connally is fit and will be available tomorrow. . . Does AP go back to 442 or stick with Papa and 451?? . . Either way it's good news. COYRs

Costa Baz says...
12:16pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Look on the bright side. When we kick off yet another season in the Prem League, in Sept 2018, our pitch will be in perfect condition having not been used by the lesser World Cup teams we would have been given.

The Exiled Saint says...
12:20pm Fri 4 Dec 09

I’m sorry that St Mary’s won’t get a chance to be a part of hosting the World Cup. It would have great for the city that could benefit from the spin off. However, it was never going to be any more than an aspiration following the debacle of going into administration.

We appear to have a half-decent owner and although we’re in the third division, we’re making excellent progress considering we might have been just a footnote in British football history.

I’ll be grateful for a result against the Saddlers when I go to the Bescot tomorrow.

Oh! The authority that decides is the Football Association not the Football League. Not that there’s much to choose between them!

allways the optimist says...
12:23pm Fri 4 Dec 09

slugger wrote:
Dorssaints wrote: So who are the southern grounds, or is it only London in the South?
plymouth i think.
WHAAAAAT! they let PLYMOUTH bid! and not Southampton! Plymouths stadium has 19,500 capacity.... only 2,000 more than the skates! we have a 32,000 seater, with the ability to upgrade to 40,000... they are prepared to allow a joint bid from plymouth and exeter (exeter have an 8,000 seater), in a remote part of the country, which is only famous because of AVIVA! and yet they dont let Southampton, home of the spitfire, a port, a city with one of the UK's most modern stadia, and where the titanic sailed from make a bid... this is a pathetic decision by the football league.. who's treatment of our club warrants a protest outside they're headquarters.

Harleysaint says...
12:27pm Fri 4 Dec 09

puppy saint wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote: One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans. (Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
psychologically speaking......what does it mean if someone is obsessed with pies?
Whilst not holding a degree in psychology myself I would hazard a Laymans guess that it stems back to your childhood!
Were you perhaps not allowed them at birth??
Some well meaning parents back in the day were encouraged in the belief that Mothers milk was an adequate substitite.
My own parents thankfully disregarded this, though well meaning,"Advice" and ensured that the whole family always had "PIES"
on demand.
As a result in my later life am able to walk past a Pie Shop on the odd occasion!
Hope this helps Puppy!?
SW: warm-long Could not eat one any other way!

german bloodline rottweiler says...
12:31pm Fri 4 Dec 09

the thing is st marys itself is a nice modern stadium(a bit too similar to other grounds if you ask me)not much character.BUT the reason we didnt get it i think is because the area its in is skanky plain and simple.its a eye sore.i went to fc portos "dragao estadio" last month and i thought if st marys was in this kind of stting it would be awsome

allsaintsnocurves says...
12:32pm Fri 4 Dec 09

whatever Plymouth or Bristol do to make up the capacity for the worldcup it will only be by use of temporary seats! There is no way they will have a 40,000 seater stadium and keep it after the worldcup! So why is that going to be good for football infrastructure?

It would be better to use stadiums in the country that can sustain their position and actually benefit from it in the long term.

allsaintsnocurves says...
12:35pm Fri 4 Dec 09

german bloodline rottweiler wrote:
the thing is st marys itself is a nice modern stadium(a bit too similar to other grounds if you ask me)not much character.BUT the reason we didnt get it i think is because the area its in is skanky plain and simple.its a eye sore.i went to fc portos "dragao estadio" last month and i thought if st marys was in this kind of stting it would be awsome
Yeah I just imagine the meeting in the FA now...should we consider Southampton's bid? ...no the area it's in is skanky!! lol. hilarious!! Good one!

Okay firstly...the bid cities will have years to develop the surrounding areas before the worldcup actually arrives and have you ever been to Bristol??

puppy saint says...
12:47pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Harleysaint wrote:
puppy saint wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote: One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans. (Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
psychologically speaking......what does it mean if someone is obsessed with pies?
Whilst not holding a degree in psychology myself I would hazard a Laymans guess that it stems back to your childhood! Were you perhaps not allowed them at birth?? Some well meaning parents back in the day were encouraged in the belief that Mothers milk was an adequate substitite. My own parents thankfully disregarded this, though well meaning,"Advice" and ensured that the whole family always had "PIES" on demand. As a result in my later life am able to walk past a Pie Shop on the odd occasion! Hope this helps Puppy!? SW: warm-long Could not eat one any other way!
I was born with a Fray Bentos in my mouth!

allways the optimist says...
12:47pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Is there some hidden top class training facilities in Bristol then? they even let PORTSMOUTH bid, who's training ground is rented, and is on the outskirts of eastleigh! not to mention its stadium! the next time im in london, i will take 3 lots of Toblerone, with ''red and white forever'' written on them... and THROW them at the Football league offices!!

southy says...
1:00pm Fri 4 Dec 09

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
whatever Plymouth or Bristol do to make up the capacity for the worldcup it will only be by use of temporary seats! There is no way they will have a 40,000 seater stadium and keep it after the worldcup! So why is that going to be good for football infrastructure?

It would be better to use stadiums in the country that can sustain their position and actually benefit from it in the long term.
have you look at what plans the other football clubs have got. at the moment st mary's is number 18 on the largest capacity grounds. even when they do the extension to 40,000 even that will not be enough, because of what other clubs are doing. many are looking at the 50,000 mark or more, and it will those grounds that the FA will look at first, and by the time these other clubs have done what they are doing it will push st marys down to number 25 and thats after st marys has increase its ground to 40.000. 40000 will not be enough, the FA will be looking how to get the max amount off money back to off set the cost of running it.

Southampton Heart says...
1:05pm Fri 4 Dec 09

On reflection....I guess it's fair enough....its "rules are rules" again......its clear the authorities are sticking by thieir deadline rules.

Well......I say....it's their loss...not ours.

Anyhow....we've more important things to do....for starters....let's get our great club back to the Premiership ASAP and let continue to give our whole "heartily" support to St Markus and Nicola......because we "Love them".

Southampton Forever!!!

Saint Pete II says...
2:07pm Fri 4 Dec 09

southy wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
whatever Plymouth or Bristol do to make up the capacity for the worldcup it will only be by use of temporary seats! There is no way they will have a 40,000 seater stadium and keep it after the worldcup! So why is that going to be good for football infrastructure?

It would be better to use stadiums in the country that can sustain their position and actually benefit from it in the long term.
have you look at what plans the other football clubs have got. at the moment st mary's is number 18 on the largest capacity grounds. even when they do the extension to 40,000 even that will not be enough, because of what other clubs are doing. many are looking at the 50,000 mark or more, and it will those grounds that the FA will look at first, and by the time these other clubs have done what they are doing it will push st marys down to number 25 and thats after st marys has increase its ground to 40.000. 40000 will not be enough, the FA will be looking how to get the max amount off money back to off set the cost of running it.
St Mary's has been built to allow it to be extended to 55,000 - 40,000 is just a number given by the FA as minimum capacity for hosting world cup matches.

The FA has not rejected the bid because of our stadium, infrastructure, state of the city, or personal dislike to us. Quite simply its because they do not ever bend the rules. We were past the deadline cos of administration and therefore cannot be allowed in.

Personally i think its ridiculous that the FA won't allow us to enter the race, but when have they ever gone back on their rules?

ray the turk says...
2:10pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Psychologically speaking, and I'm not
too sure,
Pieomania has no cure.
The Plested variety is bit hazy,
But recovery is achieved by adding gravy.
Walls and Gingster, the upper crust..
is OK if you aren't too fussed.
To cure oneself of this awful blight..
is to eat hot dogs every night.
The rash will soon disappear,
But the slop on your shirt front won't
I fear.

southy says...
2:29pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Saint Pete II wrote:
southy wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
whatever Plymouth or Bristol do to make up the capacity for the worldcup it will only be by use of temporary seats! There is no way they will have a 40,000 seater stadium and keep it after the worldcup! So why is that going to be good for football infrastructure?

It would be better to use stadiums in the country that can sustain their position and actually benefit from it in the long term.
have you look at what plans the other football clubs have got. at the moment st mary's is number 18 on the largest capacity grounds. even when they do the extension to 40,000 even that will not be enough, because of what other clubs are doing. many are looking at the 50,000 mark or more, and it will those grounds that the FA will look at first, and by the time these other clubs have done what they are doing it will push st marys down to number 25 and thats after st marys has increase its ground to 40.000. 40000 will not be enough, the FA will be looking how to get the max amount off money back to off set the cost of running it.
St Mary's has been built to allow it to be extended to 55,000 - 40,000 is just a number given by the FA as minimum capacity for hosting world cup matches.

The FA has not rejected the bid because of our stadium, infrastructure, state of the city, or personal dislike to us. Quite simply its because they do not ever bend the rules. We were past the deadline cos of administration and therefore cannot be allowed in.

Personally i think its ridiculous that the FA won't allow us to enter the race, but when have they ever gone back on their rules?
though some one said extension would make it around the 43000 mark, then you also got to take into account its not just subject to football grounds it will also include any stadium that could a large capacity off people and fir a football pitch in it.
the saints would do better to forget the world cup and put there minds to getting back up the league and into a div where they belong, and winning the fa cup at lest one more time in my life time.

german bloodline rottweiler says...
2:39pm Fri 4 Dec 09

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
german bloodline rottweiler wrote:
the thing is st marys itself is a nice modern stadium(a bit too similar to other grounds if you ask me)not much character.BUT the reason we didnt get it i think is because the area its in is skanky plain and simple.its a eye sore.i went to fc portos "dragao estadio" last month and i thought if st marys was in this kind of stting it would be awsome
Yeah I just imagine the meeting in the FA now...should we consider Southampton's bid? ...no the area it's in is skanky!! lol. hilarious!! Good one!

Okay firstly...the bid cities will have years to develop the surrounding areas before the worldcup actually arrives and have you ever been to Bristol??
totally agree,bristol is a complete sh@@hole also.i do think though if sms was in a nice area we would of stood a better chance.come on.......would you like to go there if you were from foreign fields?(retorical question)

Jesus_02 says...
2:41pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans.
(Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
smug git.

southy says...
2:49pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Jesus_02 wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans.
(Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
smug git.
oh my another one who thinks he can walk on water.
smug it might be, but its honest

Jesus_02 says...
2:56pm Fri 4 Dec 09

I don't think that Bristol or Plymouth will host the world cup either.

I would hate to see the Football League to encourage clubs to amass unsustainable debt. By far the largest part of our debt was the stadium.

Southampton Heart says...
2:56pm Fri 4 Dec 09

The headline should read "Football Association Fails City".

robhythe says...
3:07pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Hope it doesnt come to this country anyway! It would be good for the prawn sandwich eaters who would get the tickets first! Also there would be alot more presure on the England side to win it! You get the true England fans going away to world cups to watch them!!

Jesus_02 says...
3:11pm Fri 4 Dec 09

southy wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote:
One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans.
(Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
smug git.
oh my another one who thinks he can walk on water.
smug it might be, but its honest
In what way was my comment dishonest?

One thing it wasn't was amazingly patronising unlike Andy's. Andy's comment was I believe ill informed.

"pen pushing administrators of League 1" have nothing to do with this decision.

The football association however do. I dont neccisarrily think that they have a vendetta against Saints but it is easy to understand why people might think they do.

What I do think is that they are so keen to stick to their own rules that they have shot themselves in the foot. Sometimes a common sense approach needs to be taken. Unfortunalty the League are incapable of that.

What I cant abide is the pomposity, and patronising attitude of people like Andy that talk about football fans as if they are something that requires scraping from the sole of society

There you a bit more honest (if that's not an oxymoron)

Saintbob says...
4:37pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Oh well. Probably won't be in England anyway.

southy says...
4:45pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Jesus_02 now where did i say your post was dishonest, i was refering that andy post was honest thats all. even lo it is smug
the truth off it all football supporters are there own worse enemy.

Folkestone Saint says...
4:54pm Fri 4 Dec 09

I feel the FA has let down a large fan base, there are a lot of clubs and therefore fans along the southern coast who will now (if bid sucessful) have to travel 100's of miles if they want to go to a decent ground for a game, but then when did the fa ever consider the fans, i.e. friday night in Bristol and Southend

Linesman says...
4:59pm Fri 4 Dec 09

allways the optimist wrote:
Is there some hidden top class training facilities in Bristol then? they even let PORTSMOUTH bid, who's training ground is rented, and is on the outskirts of eastleigh! not to mention its stadium! the next time im in london, i will take 3 lots of Toblerone, with ''red and white forever'' written on them... and THROW them at the Football league offices!!
Two points to make on this is that
1) The FA approached Portsmouth City Council, rather than the Portsmouth City Council approaching the FA. I have no knowledge why, but would assume that it is situated between Southampton and Brighton with Reading to the North.
2) Questions were asked about what facilities would be available in 2018, not what facilities are available now. If it was what the facilities are now, Southampton would not qualify because St Marys has not got the capacity at present.
Questions have been asked about why a late bid was not acceptable! Presumably for the same reason that goals scored after the final whistle has been blown do not count! The period for bids had closed.


puppy saint says...
5:29pm Fri 4 Dec 09

ray the turk wrote:
Psychologically speaking, and I'm not too sure, Pieomania has no cure. The Plested variety is bit hazy, But recovery is achieved by adding gravy. Walls and Gingster, the upper crust.. is OK if you aren't too fussed. To cure oneself of this awful blight.. is to eat hot dogs every night. The rash will soon disappear, But the slop on your shirt front won't I fear.
Pieomania is a terrible affliction! And I need help with my addiction! It started off with a Fray Bentos but where it will end, I'm at a loss! That Plested shop in the old bus station was always a source of much frustration! Dinner money spent and far from home...those racks of pies made this young Pup groan! Those St. Anne's girls would giggle and pout but I didn't notice them about! Come to Piccolos for a latte? You can even have the one that looks quite tarty! But I was focused on a different tart... a meat filled beauty to warm the heart! Nose against glass with customers quein'...I realised then they would be my ruin! Those days are past and that shop has gone but my predicament carries on! 20 a day and I'm not stopping....no wonder my buttons just keep on popping! My tale of woe is not over yet and yes I do have some regrets! But on I go with my fixation...is there a pie shop at Bescot station? COYR!

Linesman says...
6:01pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Sally Hamilton TT wrote:
DONT YOU JUST LOVE READING THE HEADLINE..."POMPEY FAIL TO PAY THE PLAYERS WAGES FOR A SECOND TIME!"
I am sorry if it upset someone to read that Pompey have, in fact, paid their players wages IN FULL, but that is the situation!

At this season of Peace and Goodwill to all men, I would have thought that it would have included these 'Glad tidings!'


Harleysaint says...
7:36pm Fri 4 Dec 09

puppy saint wrote:
Harleysaint wrote:
puppy saint wrote:
Andy Locks Heath wrote: One of the amusing things about about football fans is they are all convinced nobody else likes them. (Probably quite an astute observation when I come to think of it). But when it even extends to paranoia over the pen pushing administrators of League 1 who for some bizarre fanciful reason "hate" Southampton and contrive and plot to stop them hosting World Cup games you have to wonder at the mental health of some fans. (Actually the psychology behind this is that by convincing yourself you are a "victim" of some unspecified wrong it gives you the "victim" carte blanche to behave in any way you feel like without having to accept any guilt). But that's for another day.
psychologically speaking......what does it mean if someone is obsessed with pies?
Whilst not holding a degree in psychology myself I would hazard a Laymans guess that it stems back to your childhood! Were you perhaps not allowed them at birth?? Some well meaning parents back in the day were encouraged in the belief that Mothers milk was an adequate substitite. My own parents thankfully disregarded this, though well meaning,"Advice" and ensured that the whole family always had "PIES" on demand. As a result in my later life am able to walk past a Pie Shop on the odd occasion! Hope this helps Puppy!? SW: warm-long Could not eat one any other way!
I was born with a Fray Bentos in my mouth!
So does not make you a bad man!!!

EvM says...
8:05pm Fri 4 Dec 09

This was the right decision and even if they had applied in time it should have been rejected.

St Marys is in a stupid place and is a pox on the city. Having international team events there is a bad thing to do and would cause absolute chaos. Its bad enough that if you dare to have to go anywhere around the city for the two hours either side of a normal match.

southy says...
8:05pm Fri 4 Dec 09

Linesman wrote:
Sally Hamilton TT wrote:
DONT YOU JUST LOVE READING THE HEADLINE..."POMPEY FAIL TO PAY THE PLAYERS WAGES FOR A SECOND TIME!"
I am sorry if it upset someone to read that Pompey have, in fact, paid their players wages IN FULL, but that is the situation!

At this season of Peace and Goodwill to all men, I would have thought that it would have included these 'Glad tidings!'

humbug

joenice says...
9:40pm Fri 4 Dec 09

If you still want it in southampton join this;
www.gopetition.co.uk
/online/32597.html

Shareholder says...
9:51am Sat 5 Dec 09

Complete joke and symptomatic of the flawed English Bid. The idea Plymouth or Bristol City are better placed than Southampton is a nonsense. Neither have the stadium or training facilities for the job and even if they get them their normal crowd size would in future be rattling around in a half empty arena. The money would be better spent on better players. It will be like many of those old communist era stadiums built for grand international events and no use afterwards. Living here in Plymouth you get no sense of widespread excitement for their bid and that's because there's no real hotbed of football here. There's more interest in diver Tom Dailey. The council here is also pathetic. Last week it sold a profitable bus company to invest in a new loss making sports centre. Now it wants to spend £18m on this World Cup bid. At the same time it's cutting social service and other essential budgets! We now have the prospect of seeing 2 white elephants sitting right next to each other on the same site, a half empty football stadium and a half empty sports complex. And probably a half empty treasury. As a Saints fan I want to see this Southampton bid allowed. As a tax payer I do too. The cost to people will be far less if Southampton are allowed to bid because so much is already in place. So gratifying to know the FA are doing their bit for the national economy!

Linesman says...
8:07pm Sat 5 Dec 09

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Sally Hamilton TT wrote: DONT YOU JUST LOVE READING THE HEADLINE..."POMPEY FAIL TO PAY THE PLAYERS WAGES FOR A SECOND TIME!"
I am sorry if it upset someone to read that Pompey have, in fact, paid their players wages IN FULL, but that is the situation! At this season of Peace and Goodwill to all men, I would have thought that it would have included these 'Glad tidings!'
humbug
Humbug?
In your case, I think a Gob-stopper would be more appropriate Southy!



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